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Going Without Water in Detroit
New York Times, by Anna Clark

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Posted By:StormCnter, 7/5/2014 3:41:04 PM

DETROIT — A FAMILY of five with no water for two weeks who were embarrassed to ask friends if they could bathe at their house. A woman excited about purchasing a home who learned she would be held responsible for the previous owner’s delinquent water bill: all $8,000 of it. A 90-year-old woman with bedsores and no water available to clean them. These are the stories that keep Mia Cupp up at night. Ms. Cupp is the director of development and communication for the Wayne Metropolitan Community Action Agency, a nonprofit contracted by the state of Michigan to work as a human-services

Going without water is difficult anywhere. Residents of Detroit do not have it harder. Pay the water bill, people, like the rest of us have to do.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2, 7/5/2014 3:48:05 PM     (No. 9912129)

Precisely, OP. My sentiments exactly. Besides, everybody knows that when you let Liberals run a city, you´re taking a huge risk.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mabeldog, 7/5/2014 3:52:16 PM     (No. 9912136)

The water bill is the only utility that actually has to be paid by the user without the myriad assistance programs handed out by the government. Unlike gas, electric, food stamps, mortgage assistance all courtesy of working Americans doled out by Uncle Sambo. You use it you get a bill. Outrageous they were allowed to run up $8000 bills. Pay the piper

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Chippewa, 7/5/2014 3:52:21 PM     (No. 9912137)

There are some people who should not be shut off. The culture of Detroit, however, is that until there is a shutoff or credible threat, only about 50% will pay. And government is too inefficient to identify the real hardship exceptions like the 90 year old lady. Where are her children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews? Oh, that´s right, the poor of Detroit just have a single Uncle, Sam.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Screwgun, 7/5/2014 4:10:56 PM     (No. 9912146)

Let Obama pay it from his stash.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: shamus, 7/5/2014 4:12:37 PM     (No. 9912148)

Detroit is uninhabitable.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: vikmac, 7/5/2014 4:16:15 PM     (No. 9912150)

We can´t solve the problems we already have in our cities but now we´re taking in illegal immigrants and feeding, housing, clothing them. What´s wrong with this picture?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: calamity kate, 7/5/2014 4:41:15 PM     (No. 9912162)

Why don´t they just demand their employers pay for it? Seems to be the in thing these days.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 7/5/2014 4:43:11 PM     (No. 9912164)

If you don´t pay your bill, they shut it off. Why is anyone surprised...?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: volksford, 7/5/2014 4:53:21 PM     (No. 9912170)

Employers...you must be kidding.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Spidey, 7/5/2014 5:00:55 PM     (No. 9912173)

Obama took a country that was at least somewhat healing racially and turned it on it´s head.I´ sure these people are wondering where whitey is with trucks of rescue water.Maybe they can´t find a white driver who isn´t afraid to become a knockout victim.There´s a lot of signs of karma going around.GM shouldn´t even be in business with so much of their profit going to recalls. You can´t fire the CEO because she´s a woman.Just like you can´t fire Obama because he´s black. Affirmative action was really a splendid idea.As long as liberals get stung by their own stupidity,who cares.

I wonder how many people have tried to pay their water bill with a gold chain or slightly used Air Jordans?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Udanja99, 7/5/2014 5:16:14 PM     (No. 9912188)

No water? Thank a demonrat.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/5/2014 5:43:28 PM     (No. 9912205)

Does the City of Detroit still own all those hundreds of millions of dollars worth of art while it´s citizens have no water?

DETROIT (AP) — The Detroit City Council has approved a resolution to move artwork threatened by the city´s bankruptcy into a charitable trust.

The 8-0 vote Thursday follows the Michigan Senate´s passage this week of a bill allocating $195 million to help shore up Detroit´s two retirement systems.

That money will be part of a $660 million pool that includes funding from foundations and the Detroit Institute of Arts. The plan to help preserve retiree pension benefits while protecting city-owned pieces in the art museum is key to Detroit´s bankruptcy restructuring.

About 2,800 city-owned pieces of art have been valued at between $454 million and $867 million. Some creditors want Detroit to sell the art to help settle the city´s debt.

The transfer to a trust would come after the city exits bankruptcy.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: balogreene, 7/5/2014 6:04:21 PM     (No. 9912218)

$75/month is the highest in the nation. Ours in Northern VA is less than $100/quarter, and that includes sewage. My mother gets about $1200/month social security and pension, and she worked hard all of her life. Start subtracting, rent/mortgage, electric, gas, food, etc. that is way too much money. And to expect someone to pay someone else´s past due, is beyond reproach.

There are certain basic health needs, and water is one of them. Start with the State, the Lions, the hockey team. Then work something out with the little people who have no work because Detroit is broken, but can´t afford to move out either.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40, 7/5/2014 6:07:46 PM     (No. 9912220)

If first they learn to go without OPM (Other People´s Money)a lot of these things will be sorted out.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: god of irony, 7/5/2014 6:08:21 PM     (No. 9912221)

This is the fruit of the liberal utopia.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bassman, 7/5/2014 6:36:55 PM     (No. 9912249)

I agree that someone should be be expected to pay their own water bills, but I don´t agree that a person should have to pay the bill of a prior property owner in the tune of $8000. That´s Detroit´s problem to let it get that high to begin with.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Hawgguy, 7/5/2014 7:09:43 PM     (No. 9912266)

$8,000? How does that happen. I inadvertently forgot to pay a bill one month. The next month, water was shut off until I paid the bill.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 7/5/2014 7:13:13 PM     (No. 9912268)

Liberalism at its finest.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chance_232, 7/5/2014 7:17:41 PM     (No. 9912272)

You hear that??? Its the sound of the worlds tiniest violin playing "my heart bleeds for you"

Suck it up cupcakes and pay your water bill.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: lotsamojo, 7/5/2014 7:36:37 PM     (No. 9912288)

So how are the water systems doing in Cleveland, Chicago, San Bernardino, Stockton and other cities near you?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 7/5/2014 7:58:47 PM     (No. 9912300)

Here in the Metro Detroit Area we read almost daily of Detroit residents failing to pay taxes on their homes, water bills, other utility bills and on and on. One wonders how in the world Detroit is to survive after Bankruptcy without a tax base?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/5/2014 8:17:57 PM     (No. 9912311)

when we lived in FL our water/sewer bill averaged $50/month. And we thought that was high. That´s for 2 adults, no car washing, no pool, average showering, 4 laundry loads a week. And I can promise you, the utility co would shut off the water for one month of non-payment. how on earth did the city of Detroit allow these bill to get this far in arrears?

I´ll grant that this is the responsibility of the resident, but Detroit has to bear some of the burden just because of sloppy collection procedures...

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Reply 23 - Posted by: planetgeo, 7/5/2014 8:31:58 PM     (No. 9912327)

Whoa, whoa, whoa...let me get this straight...the new owner of a house must pay the PREVIOUS owner´s overdue water bills??? In what universe is this legal? The Obama Galaxy?

Talk about dysfunctional. A real black hole galactic phenomenon. Other peoples´ money gets sucked in and is never seen again.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: chumley, 7/5/2014 8:55:51 PM     (No. 9912339)

There is a very cruel natural law that applies here. Adapt or die.
What did people do before potable city water? They got their water from centrally located wells or faucets, or they got it from streams or private wells. Or they may have moved to someplace that did have water.
In the middle east when I was a teen we bought five gallons a day from a horse drawn tank wagon.

If you have to get by, you will figure out how.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: SG, 7/5/2014 9:06:48 PM     (No. 9912342)

The story about the buyer of a house assessed $8k for the previous owners water bill doesn´t pass the smell test. At closing, all open bills and obligations are settled. The gas, electric, & water bills, the value of heating oil left in the tank and so on. All of these bills are reset to zero for the new owner or tenant. I have feeling that some factoid has been omitted or altered. Hey,never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/5/2014 9:46:20 PM     (No. 9912358)

#26, you beat me to it. I recall these items being settled each time we bought or sold a house.

In addition, a bill that large would cause a lien to be placed on the house by the City or water supplier. That lien would be discovered in the title search done before the closing.

I call B.S. on that anecdote.

In addition, if the bill is $70, you pay it. If that´s too much, start conserving.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Ken M., 7/5/2014 10:23:27 PM     (No. 9912386)

Correction to #26´s comment:

"...never let the facts get in the way of a good story."

Should read:

"...never let the facts get in the way of a good sob story."

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/5/2014 11:20:02 PM     (No. 9912406)

It seems like the water dept. needs a new director. In most states, after 30 days you pay or have the water shut off.

Why isn´t a senior agency helping the 90 year old or putting her in a nursing home/rehab center so that she gets adequate care ?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 7/5/2014 11:48:18 PM     (No. 9912420)

Before you ask me for the money, I respectfully request a written acceptance or decline for the bill with reason, from the following:
1) George Soros
2) Michael Moore
3) George Clooney
4) Spike Lee
5) Hillary Clinton

You see, each of these multi-millionaires has berated me for my uncaring, selfish and mean spirited support of free markets. They have also wasted untold sums trying to take money from my pocket to subsidize the poor.

So how about it, limousine leftists?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trigger2, 7/6/2014 5:37:31 AM     (No. 9912496)

I foresee a new goobermint welfare benefit---HEAP for water. The rest of us will pay for it.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: CivilServant, 7/7/2014 10:36:18 AM     (No. 9913688)

#26 et al, the house was more than likely bought at a Sherriff´s sale on a tax/mortgage delinquency. In those cases, all previous bills go with the purchase.

Makes it far more ´sobby´ to leave that little detail out.

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The Secret Service was unaware for four days that a man had fired a high-powered rifle at the White House in 2011 in a ´fumbled´ response that left the Obamas furious, says a new report. Officers allegedly performed a string of security lapses after Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez shot at least seven bullets at the executive mansion in Washington from his car. At the time, President Barack Obama, his wife Michelle and their older daughter Malia were not at home, but their younger daughter Sasha and Mrs Obama´s mother, Marian Robinson, were inside. It comes as the Secret Service is facing more questions over

Obama: The Country Is Better
Off, People Just Don’t Feel It

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Washington Free Beacon, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 9/29/2014 10:10:27 AM     Post Reply
President Obama firmly believes the United States is better off now than when he took office, even though the American people cannot “feel” it. During an interview with 60 Minutes’ Steve Kroft, Obama said, “the country is definitely better off than when I came into office.” “When I came into office, our economy was in crisis,” Obama said. The president then cited lower unemployment, private sector job growth, and deficit cuts as evidence of his administration’s success. “I can put my record against any leader around the world in terms of digging ourselves out of a terrible, almost unprecedented financial crisis,” Obama said. When

Justice Department expected to ban
profiling by federal law enforcement

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Washington Examiner, by Mark Flatten    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 9/28/2014 1:48:41 PM     Post Reply
The Justice Department is expected to ban profiling by federal law enforcement. Counter-terror investigators would be barred from undercover operations in mosques or other religious institutions unless there is reason to believe criminal activity is going on there, under a new policy expected within weeks. The new rules would ban profiling based on religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation and includes no exemption for national security investigations, the Los Angeles Times reports. The announcement of the new policy to crack down on law enforcement profiling was delayed for several months because of White House

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