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Going Without Water in Detroit
New York Times, by Anna Clark

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Posted By:StormCnter, 7/5/2014 3:41:04 PM

DETROIT — A FAMILY of five with no water for two weeks who were embarrassed to ask friends if they could bathe at their house. A woman excited about purchasing a home who learned she would be held responsible for the previous owner’s delinquent water bill: all $8,000 of it. A 90-year-old woman with bedsores and no water available to clean them. These are the stories that keep Mia Cupp up at night. Ms. Cupp is the director of development and communication for the Wayne Metropolitan Community Action Agency, a nonprofit contracted by the state of Michigan to work as a human-services

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Going without water is difficult anywhere. Residents of Detroit do not have it harder. Pay the water bill, people, like the rest of us have to do.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2, 7/5/2014 3:48:05 PM     (No. 9912129)

Precisely, OP. My sentiments exactly. Besides, everybody knows that when you let Liberals run a city, you´re taking a huge risk.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mabeldog, 7/5/2014 3:52:16 PM     (No. 9912136)

The water bill is the only utility that actually has to be paid by the user without the myriad assistance programs handed out by the government. Unlike gas, electric, food stamps, mortgage assistance all courtesy of working Americans doled out by Uncle Sambo. You use it you get a bill. Outrageous they were allowed to run up $8000 bills. Pay the piper

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Chippewa, 7/5/2014 3:52:21 PM     (No. 9912137)

There are some people who should not be shut off. The culture of Detroit, however, is that until there is a shutoff or credible threat, only about 50% will pay. And government is too inefficient to identify the real hardship exceptions like the 90 year old lady. Where are her children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews? Oh, that´s right, the poor of Detroit just have a single Uncle, Sam.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Screwgun, 7/5/2014 4:10:56 PM     (No. 9912146)

Let Obama pay it from his stash.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: shamus, 7/5/2014 4:12:37 PM     (No. 9912148)

Detroit is uninhabitable.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: vikmac, 7/5/2014 4:16:15 PM     (No. 9912150)

We can´t solve the problems we already have in our cities but now we´re taking in illegal immigrants and feeding, housing, clothing them. What´s wrong with this picture?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: calamity kate, 7/5/2014 4:41:15 PM     (No. 9912162)

Why don´t they just demand their employers pay for it? Seems to be the in thing these days.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 7/5/2014 4:43:11 PM     (No. 9912164)

If you don´t pay your bill, they shut it off. Why is anyone surprised...?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: volksford, 7/5/2014 4:53:21 PM     (No. 9912170)

Employers...you must be kidding.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Spidey, 7/5/2014 5:00:55 PM     (No. 9912173)

Obama took a country that was at least somewhat healing racially and turned it on it´s head.I´ sure these people are wondering where whitey is with trucks of rescue water.Maybe they can´t find a white driver who isn´t afraid to become a knockout victim.There´s a lot of signs of karma going around.GM shouldn´t even be in business with so much of their profit going to recalls. You can´t fire the CEO because she´s a woman.Just like you can´t fire Obama because he´s black. Affirmative action was really a splendid idea.As long as liberals get stung by their own stupidity,who cares.

I wonder how many people have tried to pay their water bill with a gold chain or slightly used Air Jordans?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Udanja99, 7/5/2014 5:16:14 PM     (No. 9912188)

No water? Thank a demonrat.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/5/2014 5:43:28 PM     (No. 9912205)

Does the City of Detroit still own all those hundreds of millions of dollars worth of art while it´s citizens have no water?

DETROIT (AP) — The Detroit City Council has approved a resolution to move artwork threatened by the city´s bankruptcy into a charitable trust.

The 8-0 vote Thursday follows the Michigan Senate´s passage this week of a bill allocating $195 million to help shore up Detroit´s two retirement systems.

That money will be part of a $660 million pool that includes funding from foundations and the Detroit Institute of Arts. The plan to help preserve retiree pension benefits while protecting city-owned pieces in the art museum is key to Detroit´s bankruptcy restructuring.

About 2,800 city-owned pieces of art have been valued at between $454 million and $867 million. Some creditors want Detroit to sell the art to help settle the city´s debt.

The transfer to a trust would come after the city exits bankruptcy.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: balogreene, 7/5/2014 6:04:21 PM     (No. 9912218)

$75/month is the highest in the nation. Ours in Northern VA is less than $100/quarter, and that includes sewage. My mother gets about $1200/month social security and pension, and she worked hard all of her life. Start subtracting, rent/mortgage, electric, gas, food, etc. that is way too much money. And to expect someone to pay someone else´s past due, is beyond reproach.

There are certain basic health needs, and water is one of them. Start with the State, the Lions, the hockey team. Then work something out with the little people who have no work because Detroit is broken, but can´t afford to move out either.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40, 7/5/2014 6:07:46 PM     (No. 9912220)

If first they learn to go without OPM (Other People´s Money)a lot of these things will be sorted out.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: god of irony, 7/5/2014 6:08:21 PM     (No. 9912221)

This is the fruit of the liberal utopia.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bassman, 7/5/2014 6:36:55 PM     (No. 9912249)

I agree that someone should be be expected to pay their own water bills, but I don´t agree that a person should have to pay the bill of a prior property owner in the tune of $8000. That´s Detroit´s problem to let it get that high to begin with.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Hawgguy, 7/5/2014 7:09:43 PM     (No. 9912266)

$8,000? How does that happen. I inadvertently forgot to pay a bill one month. The next month, water was shut off until I paid the bill.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 7/5/2014 7:13:13 PM     (No. 9912268)

Liberalism at its finest.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chance_232, 7/5/2014 7:17:41 PM     (No. 9912272)

You hear that??? Its the sound of the worlds tiniest violin playing "my heart bleeds for you"

Suck it up cupcakes and pay your water bill.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: lotsamojo, 7/5/2014 7:36:37 PM     (No. 9912288)

So how are the water systems doing in Cleveland, Chicago, San Bernardino, Stockton and other cities near you?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 7/5/2014 7:58:47 PM     (No. 9912300)

Here in the Metro Detroit Area we read almost daily of Detroit residents failing to pay taxes on their homes, water bills, other utility bills and on and on. One wonders how in the world Detroit is to survive after Bankruptcy without a tax base?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 7/5/2014 8:17:57 PM     (No. 9912311)

when we lived in FL our water/sewer bill averaged $50/month. And we thought that was high. That´s for 2 adults, no car washing, no pool, average showering, 4 laundry loads a week. And I can promise you, the utility co would shut off the water for one month of non-payment. how on earth did the city of Detroit allow these bill to get this far in arrears?

I´ll grant that this is the responsibility of the resident, but Detroit has to bear some of the burden just because of sloppy collection procedures...

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Reply 23 - Posted by: planetgeo, 7/5/2014 8:31:58 PM     (No. 9912327)

Whoa, whoa, whoa...let me get this straight...the new owner of a house must pay the PREVIOUS owner´s overdue water bills??? In what universe is this legal? The Obama Galaxy?

Talk about dysfunctional. A real black hole galactic phenomenon. Other peoples´ money gets sucked in and is never seen again.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: chumley, 7/5/2014 8:55:51 PM     (No. 9912339)

There is a very cruel natural law that applies here. Adapt or die.
What did people do before potable city water? They got their water from centrally located wells or faucets, or they got it from streams or private wells. Or they may have moved to someplace that did have water.
In the middle east when I was a teen we bought five gallons a day from a horse drawn tank wagon.

If you have to get by, you will figure out how.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: SG, 7/5/2014 9:06:48 PM     (No. 9912342)

The story about the buyer of a house assessed $8k for the previous owners water bill doesn´t pass the smell test. At closing, all open bills and obligations are settled. The gas, electric, & water bills, the value of heating oil left in the tank and so on. All of these bills are reset to zero for the new owner or tenant. I have feeling that some factoid has been omitted or altered. Hey,never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 7/5/2014 9:46:20 PM     (No. 9912358)

#26, you beat me to it. I recall these items being settled each time we bought or sold a house.

In addition, a bill that large would cause a lien to be placed on the house by the City or water supplier. That lien would be discovered in the title search done before the closing.

I call B.S. on that anecdote.

In addition, if the bill is $70, you pay it. If that´s too much, start conserving.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Ken M., 7/5/2014 10:23:27 PM     (No. 9912386)

Correction to #26´s comment:

"...never let the facts get in the way of a good story."

Should read:

"...never let the facts get in the way of a good sob story."

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/5/2014 11:20:02 PM     (No. 9912406)

It seems like the water dept. needs a new director. In most states, after 30 days you pay or have the water shut off.

Why isn´t a senior agency helping the 90 year old or putting her in a nursing home/rehab center so that she gets adequate care ?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 7/5/2014 11:48:18 PM     (No. 9912420)

Before you ask me for the money, I respectfully request a written acceptance or decline for the bill with reason, from the following:
1) George Soros
2) Michael Moore
3) George Clooney
4) Spike Lee
5) Hillary Clinton

You see, each of these multi-millionaires has berated me for my uncaring, selfish and mean spirited support of free markets. They have also wasted untold sums trying to take money from my pocket to subsidize the poor.

So how about it, limousine leftists?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trigger2, 7/6/2014 5:37:31 AM     (No. 9912496)

I foresee a new goobermint welfare benefit---HEAP for water. The rest of us will pay for it.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: CivilServant, 7/7/2014 10:36:18 AM     (No. 9913688)

#26 et al, the house was more than likely bought at a Sherriff´s sale on a tax/mortgage delinquency. In those cases, all previous bills go with the purchase.

Makes it far more ´sobby´ to leave that little detail out.

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It is the stuff that nightmares are made of, and day by day it is getting worse. The Ebola epidemic, says Dr Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organisation (WHO), is now “the greatest peacetime challenge” since the Second World War. Yet her own organisation’s tardiness, partly caused by cuts, together with reductions in--and misuse of--funds elsewhere, are largely responsible for Ebola spiralling out of control. [Snip] It’s just the beginning. At present the numbers of people infected are thought to be doubling in under 30 days--and the blue-chip US Center for Disease Control and Prevention predicts that, if Ebola

Most Texas abortion clinics shut down
as abortion rights recede in South

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Christian Science Monitor, by Patrik Jonsson    Original Article
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ATLANTA — Texas, America’s second-most populous state behind California, saw 13 of its last abortion clinics turn away women on Friday, after a federal appeals court upheld a law that practically guarantees that only a handful of clinics will remain open in the state. The strictest-of-its-kind Texas law requires abortion providers to build hospital-grade facilities and obtain sometimes impossible-to-get hospital admitting privileges. After signed into law last year by Gov. Rick Perry (R), the law forced most of the 41 clinics operating to close. Thursday’s ruling wiped out a brief victory this summer for abortion rights proponents,

California’s next big political fight:
Plastic grocery bags

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Washington Post, by Reid Wilson    Original Article
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Go to a grocery store in California and buy all the milk, eggs and vegetables you want. But there’s one thing you won’t find at the checkout line, beginning July 1, 2015: Plastic bags to carry your stuff home. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) on Tuesday signed into law a ban on single-use plastic bags, making California the first state to prohibit stores from using the ubiquitous carry-alls. Shoppers will be charged 10 cents for every paper bag and heavy-duty plastic bag they use. “This bill is a step in the right direction,” Brown said in a press release announcing his approval. “It


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