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Plastic Bag Fantasy Island Vanishes
Like Atlantis, Scientist Corrects
Million-Ton Floating Estimate

PJ Media, by Scott Ott

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 7/4/2014 12:41:10 PM

The scientist whose findings environmentalists used to shame us into bringing our own reusable bags to the grocery store now says that his estimate of one million tons of plastic floating in the ocean may have been off by a factor of perhaps 143. His latest estimate ranges from 7,000 to 35,000 tons, and even most of that has biodegraded into granules. Cózar’s team didn’t find country-size islands of plastic bags strangling baby birds and sea turtles. It found “micro plastics.” What people think of as a dump doesn’t look like floating junk. Instead, ocean current “convergence zones” are swirling

What a shock, the eco-terrorists were wrong again. s/o It is funny to read that birds recycled plastic bags as nesting material that: "no doubt reduced moisture incursion and boosted the R-value of their insulation..." I have a Morning Dove that builds her nest every year above a brick pillar on my front porch. I´ve never seen her use plastic bags but I do have to regularly sweep twigs off the porch!


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Reply 1 - Posted by: WAN2, 7/4/2014 12:51:44 PM     (No. 9911016)

The GOAL is to having us believe NOTHING and trust NO ONE. Americans resigned to permanent suckling will turn over the keys to the kingdom to vote buyers.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Northcross, 7/4/2014 12:57:35 PM     (No. 9911022)

But at the other end of his current estimate, he may have only been off by a factor of 28. Regardless, this is not science at work, but environmental kook alarmism.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 7/4/2014 1:02:22 PM     (No. 9911030)

I thought the "science" was settled...

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 7/4/2014 1:12:07 PM     (No. 9911040)

I almost always use the plastic grocery store bags; they are more sanitary than the reusable cloth ones (which have been found to accumulate germs if you don´t wash them), and I can "recycle" them for use in the small garbage cans around the house. I do have several of the non-cloth bags from the store I frequent, but I mainly use them in the car to keep the plastic bags with the groceries contained; otherwise they can get heavy if you put too much in them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 7/4/2014 1:23:43 PM     (No. 9911045)

Never understood why my grocery bag pollutes, but the bag from the designer boutique doesn´t.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/4/2014 1:39:05 PM     (No. 9911059)

The environuts who claim that 10s of thousands of sea animals are dying by eating ocean trash have "no empirical evidence" of their new, much lower number. Does the trash island scientist have any empirical evidence of his new numbers or are they made up like the global warming computer fantasy models?

These idiots think science ends with their speculations about the world. Any dope can (and does) make up opinions about things. Science is doing all the hard and sometimes VERY long work of proving it. Or disproving it. Most speculations are wrong to some degree.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 7/4/2014 1:58:25 PM     (No. 9911076)

Only off by a factor of 28 to 143 times. He needs to buy a clue. He probably wants the taxpayers to give him money so he can study the situation further.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 7/4/2014 2:00:08 PM     (No. 9911078)

Another day - - another leftist hoax.

But don´t think it´s over - - there WILL be lots more.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: belwhatter, 7/4/2014 2:03:23 PM     (No. 9911083)

Birds are much smarter than we give them credit for. Our town went plastic shopping bag-less about two years ago, community being full of enviro extremeists welcomed it. I invested in a box of 1,000 plastic shopping size bags via the internet at a very small cost, and keep one in each of my re-usables to contain meat,fish or any other sloppy/smelly item. The check out clerks are happy to oblige.It does help minimize the contamination risk.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 7/4/2014 2:03:59 PM     (No. 9911085)

But it won´t stop the enviros from quoting the million ton estimate as fact in future

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Reply 11 - Posted by: mamafrog, 7/4/2014 2:17:32 PM     (No. 9911102)

Somewhere there is a bacteria that is learning slowly but surely to eat plastic bags - plastic bottles and styrofoam. There is quite of bit of energy stored in those molecular bonds, and where there is energy an organism will develop to utilize it.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 7/4/2014 3:48:54 PM     (No. 9911172)

" his estimate of one million tons of plastic floating in the ocean may have been off by a factor of perhaps 143"

In other words, he just made it up...

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Reply 13 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue, 7/4/2014 3:55:16 PM     (No. 9911178)

I´ve seen too many fabric bags being brought into grocery stores and they have ´´curous´´ stains on them that have dried there for a long time...like bllod staians from meat pacj=kages! They are nasty! Most grocers have very nice bags that are reusable for many other things, other than reuse them fro groceries. About the only grocery store that carried horrible grocery bags is KROGER. You can´t reuse them and usually your stuff is double bagged because it don´t last for the trip home from the grocer without getting holes in them. But grocery bags I reuse fro many things but NOT to the grocery store!!!! YUK!!!!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: toddh, 7/4/2014 4:12:01 PM     (No. 9911190)

Supposed to wash the bags. Detergent is made from petroleum. These people are idiots.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 7/4/2014 5:25:44 PM     (No. 9911252)

The only crap I see floating are global warming theories put out by environmental liars.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mitzi, 7/4/2014 5:33:00 PM     (No. 9911258)

#11 I recall an ecology class I had years ago ... they said the same thing.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 7/4/2014 6:21:10 PM     (No. 9911299)

They are called enviro-freaks for a reason.... and freaks freak-out, and then freak out about their freak-out.

Pay no attention, or fight them at their every utterance. They are always wrong.... I can´t think off-hand of a single time they were right about something.....

They placed nails into tree trunks so that loggers would be injured when their chainsaws hit the nails. The spotted owl? They - uh - FLEW to other trees to nest.

That´s how it works.....

For a group of people who believe in evolution, and not Creation, or even Intelligent Design, they seem to believe no species can survive without their help.

Bag Island.... bah. (I do, however, cut all closed rings from the plastic that holds 6-pack sodas together so that birds and fish don´t get caught, cut, or strangled by them.... that´s about it for my environmentalism).

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dman, 7/4/2014 6:45:19 PM     (No. 9911319)

Plastics are made from hydrocarbon petrochemicals. As demonstrated in the Valdez and BP oil spills, the sea tends to break down hydrocarbons over time. That is: the planet has its own "recycling" process.

That said: common sense should prevail in our handling of such waste. There is a "middle ground" here.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 7/5/2014 12:01:40 AM     (No. 9911507)

Sorry, but I don´t want the plastic bag company to go out of business. They are all recycled with kitty litter waste and garbage.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Trigger2, 7/5/2014 5:47:14 AM     (No. 9911596)

This just goes to show you that eco-terrorists lie about everything. They´re almost as good as the lying Barry.

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