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This Is Treachery
Brietbart´s Big Government, by Daniel Horowitz

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Posted By:mikkins2, 6/25/2014 7:04:42 PM

In light of last night’s election results in Mississippi, there is one question every conservative should be asking: how much longer can a party survive when its leadership is inexorably against the ethos of its base? While Democrats harness their base supporters to advance the party’s liberal agenda, the Republican establishment works to undermine and disenfranchise its own base the minute they have pocketed their support in the general election. Now, after actively campaigning for Democrat votes in order to win against conservative Chris McDaniel in Mississippi, the GOP establishment has reached a new low in their treachery against those who

The Republican Establishment has just destroyed what little credibility it had left with its base or conservative independent voters. But there is a silver lining in all this.

The Republican Establishment has just freed its conservative base from any obligation of support in the future. If their candidates fail due to lack of support, that is their problem and theirs alone.

And your still a Republican because...?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: geo11, 6/25/2014 7:17:21 PM     (No. 9899808)

It just may be time for a third party. Probably lose a # of election cycles, but allowing the Dem´s and RINO´s really mess things up further would draw more people to an alternative. I don´t think that we can take the Rebublican party back. It´s too far gone.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ruready?, 6/25/2014 7:23:13 PM     (No. 9899816)

Mississippi was a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP. Hope they enjoy their shark ride.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: nhchemist, 6/25/2014 7:24:33 PM     (No. 9899818)

15+ years ago I registered Independent/Unaffiliated because I wanted the Republicans out of my bedroom and the Democrats out of my wallet. Both were for growing Government and restricting my freedoms in different ways. Today bothy parties refuse to put the American people´s priorities above their own. My mantra for the last few election cycles is to throw them all out. Government should be our servant, not our master.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 6/25/2014 7:41:58 PM     (No. 9899840)

I say let McDaniel run as an independent and let the Democrat win just to deprive Cochran of his ill gotten seat. The country is probably dead for now anyway, but possibly it could be resurrected at some point in the future, much like Germany or France which survived Hitler and the French Revolution. Consequently, I would say forget about the Republican Party. The Democrats for the moment, along with the establishment Republicans, will cheat and lie so the two party system is really no more presently.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: texaspast, 6/25/2014 7:42:23 PM     (No. 9899842)

I just got a request for money from the RNC. Here was my reply:
You got Thad Cochran. After the BS you pulled to win his primary, you back-stabbing ba***rds can kiss conservative money good-bye. I´d donate to the democrats before I ever donate to the republican party - ANY PART of the national republican party - again. Kiss the majority good-bye, too. There´s no difference between you and the dems anymore. All any of you care about is your own power. None of you give a rat´s azz about the country, only party.

I also got an e-mail from Ted Cruz asking for money for the Republican Senatorial Campaign. This was my reply:
Sorry, Ted. After what the national republican party did to get Thad Cochran his primary win, I see no hope of republicans doing anything worth-while, even with the senate majority. I do believe you care about the country. However, I do not think the national republican party gives a rats ass about the country. They are exactly like the democrats in this regard - party over country. We´re all screwed now anyway, so I might as well donate to the democrats as to the republicans. If you really care about the country, you will start a new party. It may be jousting at windmills, but maybe not. It is the only hope.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 6/25/2014 7:56:10 PM     (No. 9899861)

The stupidity/duplicity of George W. Bush ensured that I would never self-identify as a Republican. This was cemented with the nomination of Bush´s crazy Uncle (politically-speaking) Juan McCain. So last night was no big deal to me. Both candidates are reasonably conservative, both oppose amnesty and anything that smells like amnesty. The incumbent did what he had to do to win. Politics is a rough sport. I sympathize after seeing way too many unseasoned Tea Party nominees turn out too quirky, too unelectable, probably unable to play well with others. States include DE, NV, IN, AK, CO, MO, I think there are more. Ironically Tea Party fav Rubio hung in there to defeat the bizarre Charlie Crist, but then joined the McCain Amnesty train. Go figure.

Politics has always been really messy - vote your conscience in November - or stay home - or vote for the Dem. It´s a free country - sort of.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pros7767, 6/25/2014 7:58:41 PM     (No. 9899865)

We need Rush, Levin, Hannity, Palin, Cruz, Gowdy, Lee and a few others to get together quickly and call for a third party.

The time is now. Statistically, conservatives outnumber every other group. We could deal a death blow to Republican and Dem Parties this year if we just get organized.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: kahunavol, 6/25/2014 8:01:09 PM     (No. 9899869)

Conservatives are the African-Americans of the Republican party, not the base, just the votes that are taken for granted. Blacks are told that the R party will disenfranchise them, cut off benefits, return to a pre-Civil War mentality in regards to them so they vote D in fear. Conservatives are told the same thing, that without the Rs standing in the way the country will lose all sense of morality, fiscal responsibility, etc. Each side has their own plantation field hands that are referred to as the base but only in the most cynical of ways. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me again and again, shame on me, but woe to you when the field hands no longer live in fear and realize that your agenda is no different from the other guy, to arrogate power for yourself alone. Your days of power are then numbered whatever the cost. It won´t actually be worse, they have allowed Obama to do as he pleases via executive order and without a challenge, they aren´t standing in the way with a notable exception that the establishment has done everything to marginalize and discredit, Ted Cruz. Massah no longer matters to me and no longer causes me to fear it could be worse because it can´t.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: kahunavol, 6/25/2014 8:17:05 PM     (No. 9899881)

Additionally, does carrying the state also now mean that the opposition party elected a new governor and increased their majorities in both houses of state government to increased the size of its majorities to exceed the three-fifths number of elected members required for a super-majority. Because that also happened the year the Democrats had their convention in NC, 2012. Carrying the state apparently doesn´t mean what it used to mean, but by all means pander to Cleveland in the hopes of carrying the state of Ohio just like Obama did in NC.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: kahunavol, 6/25/2014 8:25:21 PM     (No. 9899890)

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: faldo, 6/25/2014 9:22:18 PM     (No. 9899916)

Sheriff Joe will reshuffle the deck anytime now. Parties and affiliations won´t matter...God and truth will sustain the day.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum, 6/25/2014 9:29:33 PM     (No. 9899925)

Third Party is sounding better and better. Call it the Traditional Party, Constitutional Party, TEA Party, whatever you want to call it, but invite all those people both Republican and Democrat who are sick and tired of the R´s and D´s. There are millions of Americans who want the country back. They are sick of the greenies, the wacko bird left, and the limp wrested amnesty loving Republicans. The establishment can´t express their hated of conservatives more than they already have done with this Cochran primary run-off. I hope McDaniel runs as a write in. It would certainly make a statement if millions of dollars poured into that state to support him. The TEA Party needs to flex its muscle and this cause is a worthy one.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: oldsfc, 6/25/2014 9:31:17 PM     (No. 9899927)

The GOP is prostituting itself to big money donors.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: dman, 6/25/2014 9:36:10 PM     (No. 9899931)

Don´t forget "USIP", #12. The time to educate or discipline the GOP Establishment has past. It ended in MS. It is now time to be rid of them and let them join the Whigs in the dustbin of history.

For a few of us, however, there is still a primary battle yet to be fought. Tennesseans need to support Joe Carr over Lamar(!). While the odds are diminshing, we need to fight this through. Then we will have "cleared the deck" for a new party.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 6/25/2014 10:59:29 PM     (No. 9900016)

The GOP establishment has reached a new low in their treachery against those who embody the heart and soul of the party.

It´s called stabbing your constituency in the back.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 6/25/2014 11:09:25 PM     (No. 9900023)

I was sick this morning when I learned that McDaniel had lost. Then I was sickened as I learned throughout the day (Fund, Johnson, Horowitz) why he lost.

On the basis of what we saw in the Mississippi Republican run-off, I honestly believe that there is NO HOPE for a conservative candidate in the 2016 presidential election.

All of us here that were crushed by the 2012 election but managed to recover and work/pray for better outcomes in ´14 and ´16 are now aware that politics at the national level in the US are irreparably corrupt.

Those who speak of a third party naively believe that this rigged, thoroughly discredited system can work if we just try again. Good luck with that.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: killerbee, 6/25/2014 11:13:50 PM     (No. 9900024)

I´ve said it in other threads, but until a new party can happen, I think all conservatives should register as Democrats. Then, when USIP or a Constitution Party actually takes root -- and by all means join in the building of such -- you can always register for that. The GOP esties take the base for granted. Look where it´s gotten us.

Registering as a Dem might, at the very least, protect you from the IRS as federal power becomes even more entrenched.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dman, 6/26/2014 12:00:21 AM     (No. 9900060)

I´m not taking the bait, #17. "Decline to state"/Independent is where I´ll stay in TN for the time being. Voters in this state do not have to declare party affiliation in order to vote in primaries. (Yes, I´d prefer closed primaries, but that´s how things are here at this time.) I´ll continue to vote mainly Republican with an exception here and there. As angry and disgusted as I am with the GOP Establishment, there are limits. Should a new party form, however, I´ll be there.

Now, about Lamar(!) ...

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ida lil, 6/26/2014 12:47:57 AM     (No. 9900087)

An Independent from my first election I have no love of any any faction or registered party as they are all despots if they gain total control..
Any political party control of elections is unconstitutional infringing voting rights.
I reserve the right to vote for the candidate I choose without restrictions via party lines..

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steveW, 6/26/2014 2:05:11 AM     (No. 9900119)

If the GOP is trying to drive its base to go third party, it is succeeding. On the other hand, if they actually go ahead and sue Obama, much will be forgiven. I doubt this state of tension and mistrust within the party can last very much longer. There are only so many breaking points people can take, and each day the establishment GOP continues to wilfully let Obama off the hook is another breaking point...

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Daily Mail [UK], by Francesca Chambers    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 6/30/2014 4:22:34 PM     Post Reply
President Barack Obama announced today that he would again go around Congress to enact immigration reform measures. In a hastily scheduled statement this afternoon from the White House Rose Garden, Obama said he would ´greatly prefer´ Congress passing any sort of immigration reform legislation, even if it wasn´t the bill he supports, but he was done sitting around waiting for that to happen. The president said his administration would ´refocus´ its efforts on the border, and he would use his ´existing legal authority´ to do ´what Congress refuses to do´ and fix the broken immigration system. The President said he


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