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Methodist pastor who was defrocked
over gay wedding is reinstated

Washington Post, by Maryclaire Dale & Michael Rubinkam

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Posted By:EagleEye, 6/24/2014 8:51:31 PM

Philadelphia - A Pennsylvania pastor who broke church law by presiding over his son’s same-sex wedding ceremony and then became an outspoken activist for gay rights can return to the pulpit after a United Methodist Church appeals panel on Tuesday overturned a decision to defrock him. (Snip) Schae­fer, who was pastor of Zion United Methodist Church of Iona in Lebanon, Pa., was suspended for officiating at his son’s 2007 wedding, then defrocked him when he refused to promise to uphold the Methodist law book “in its entirety,” including its ban on clergy performing same-sex marriages.

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I don´t know a thing about the Methodist hierarchy, but they went from following known church understandings to following the latest fad to keep dwindling members caused by their stupid decisions (like this one).

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 6/24/2014 8:58:55 PM     (No. 9898477)

For 5 years years, or so, I have not darkened a door of the UMC where I am a member nor have I sent them the checks they would like to receive.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 6/24/2014 9:02:56 PM     (No. 9898486)

I resigned from the UMC 6 years ago when I saw all this coming. Gays seem to expect Christians to accept gay sex and gay marriage because Jesus always spoke about love. There are four Greek words for love. One is storge, meaning a kind of familial love, and it is rarely used in any Greek writing. One is agape, love that gives without asking anything in return, like God´s love freely given, one is phileo, which means brotherly love, love for neighbor, love for humanity, and the fourth word is eros, erotic or sexual love. Eros is never used in the New Testament or the Septuagint. Therefore the kind of love Jesus talks about is only either agape or phileo. The only New Testament reference to sex between a man and his wife is an oblique one, that “the two shall become one flesh.” Even there eros is not used. Consequently, saying gay sex and gay marriage is Christian because Jesus was all about love is moot. He was all about agape and phileo, never eros.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: athina, 6/24/2014 9:21:57 PM     (No. 9898500)

We are still in the United Methodist Church because we have a pastor who is on the conservative side of this issue. But I struggle with being faithful with my giving because I know it supports not just this local church but our apostate bishop as well.

It´s very hard, but I believe God wants us to fight as long as there is a chance. We will stay until it is beyond question that the church will not uphold the Word of God, or if we get a pastor who will not, since we change pastors every few years.

If the church splits, we will see about what that means for us. We will probably have moved to another state by then.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Ida lil, 6/24/2014 10:22:40 PM     (No. 9898558)

I remember a quote that mentioned separating the grain from the Chaff.
In honor of my grandfather who thought he was bringing me the gift of grace when he had me Baptized in his Methodist church I leaned that way until an arrogant pastor told me my baby son would not have died had I pledged a large donation. One that was 10 times our young family income.
I left that group behind.
When my dad died the local Pastor arrived unasked then tried to dictate who could attend services.
he was truly shocked when told just who invited you to conduct those services and in your church?
I have watched the denomination erode more and more for years as the presence of the Lord faded from their origins.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: john56, 6/24/2014 10:25:02 PM     (No. 9898560)

Will the last Bible-believing Methodist (although I could include at least several other old-line Protestant denominations here) please turn out the lights?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: PAdiva, 6/24/2014 11:07:36 PM     (No. 9898591)

I left the UMC in 1978. One of my best decisions. My family had lots of UMC heritage. I didn´t realize I was starving scripturally until I attended an evangelical church.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 6/24/2014 11:54:46 PM     (No. 9898619)

We are running out of denominations.

Is it more about donations today than G-d ?



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Reply 8 - Posted by: Harlowe, 6/25/2014 1:17:45 AM     (No. 9898663)

#6 – Indeed, a conservative evangelical church is the answer for people of faith wanting a traditional, Scripture-based “home.” One such denomination has its roots going back to 1517 with its American history going back to 1847.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: usltn, 6/25/2014 10:18:42 AM     (No. 9899095)

I haven´t been to church since the late sixies and I haven´t missed a thing.

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