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Advocates of splitting California into
six states gathering signatures

Los Angeles Times, by Harriet Ryan

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Posted By:MissMolly, 6/22/2014 9:36:53 AM

Good day, future citizen of West California! You may find yourself greeted thusly as you head into a supermarket or drugstore in Los Angeles on Saturday morning. Advocates for Six Californias, a plan to split the Golden State into a half dozen separate states, are holding a petition drive this weekend to get their plan on the ballot in 2016. The idea is the brainchild of Timothy Draper, a venture capitalist from Menlo Park – or as he hopes to some day call it, the state of Silicon Valley. Draper has sunk $2 million into signature gathering for the proposal. He maintains

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: coyote, 6/22/2014 9:43:40 AM     (No. 9895454)

Rebellion to the state legislature has been brewing for years, it will continue.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: hotcorner, 6/22/2014 9:46:27 AM     (No. 9895458)

A sensible idea like this doesn´t have a chance. The dictators would have to approve.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/22/2014 10:04:09 AM     (No. 9895474)

That´s cool, a split up California would probably result in eight or ten new liberal Democrat senators heading to Washington, DC. You will know if that is true if the liberal Democrats end up supporting this measure.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 6/22/2014 10:10:50 AM     (No. 9895481)

Twelve Senators just like Boxer and Feinstein? Not bloody likely!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Wetenschapper, 6/22/2014 10:11:06 AM     (No. 9895482)

I thought of that, too, #3 though one has to remember that most of the insanity is concentrated, though by no means limited to, Los Angeles and San Fransisco. If these were, say, to form the states of Newer Mexico and Gomoregon, that could conceivably leave four states with relatively normal populations.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: planetgeo, 6/22/2014 10:11:20 AM     (No. 9895483)

Currently there are only 2 Looney Tunes senators from Mexifornia...how sensible does 12 Looney Tunes senators sound to you?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 6/22/2014 10:49:51 AM     (No. 9895533)

The northernmost state will be called ´Like,Dude!´

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/22/2014 10:51:12 AM     (No. 9895534)

This goofiness has been around since the state´s inception.

I heard that on the day the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor there was an item in the news about the state´s possibly splitting in two, Northern and Southern.

I expect that the State of California will be intact long after we are gone. It doesn´t need balkanization. It just needs a big dose of pragmatism.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 6/22/2014 10:52:46 AM     (No. 9895540)

As the writer says, this is some Menlo Park nerd´s "brainchild". Some brain.

Times political columnist George Skelton called Six Californias “crazy” and “really crackpot,” but he noted that attempts to break up the state have been around since its inception and can be highly diverting if never successful.

“Go ahead and put this thing on the ballot,” he wrote in April. “We could use some fun.”


Do we really need diversion about now? I think not.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Fromtheright2, 6/22/2014 10:55:19 AM     (No. 9895546)

Interesting how whenever Democrats and liberals dominate in an entity, be it a State, city, or the USA as a whole, that entity quickly becomes "unwieldy" and " ungovernable" (a term I first heard in the Carter years). Maybe it´s just that Democrats and liberals aren´t capable of governing.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lydwho, 6/22/2014 11:06:44 AM     (No. 9895551)

I would be more interested in seeing the whole state actually break off and slide into the Pacific Ocean!!!!!

Art

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Reply 12 - Posted by: StormCnter, 6/22/2014 11:09:06 AM     (No. 9895556)

When I spent three years in California exile 1958-61, there was great agitation to split the state into north and south. So, as the earlier poster said, this idea isn´t new.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 6/22/2014 11:11:46 AM     (No. 9895559)

Only if we could combine RI, CN, VT, MA, ME, and NH into one state.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: lawabidingcitizen, 6/22/2014 11:18:47 AM     (No. 9895566)

#13 what a great idea! I even have a name for it, New England.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: uno, 6/22/2014 12:22:09 PM     (No. 9895629)

Why not make it nine states -
Limbo
Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Anger
Heresy
Violence
Fraud
Treachery

And then of course the State Bird could be Beelzebub...

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Reply 16 - Posted by: fitzroy, 6/22/2014 12:26:00 PM     (No. 9895634)

Making it into 6 states is moving in the wrong direction. I say revoke its statehood. Make it a colony. Turn its administration over to a more responsible state like South Carolina, Indiana.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 6/22/2014 12:53:34 PM     (No. 9895660)

Probably won´t happen. I would be more in favor of my state (GA) seceding again.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Trigger2, 6/22/2014 1:09:00 PM     (No. 9895675)

If it ever comes to pass, the new states should build a 20 ft wall around LA and SF to protect themselves.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 6/22/2014 2:18:43 PM     (No. 9895736)

How about just giving it to Mexico?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: belwhatter, 6/22/2014 4:51:43 PM     (No. 9895911)

Living in a place that constantly disenfranchises your vote gets to you, and you look for a ray of light and a whiff of sanity to restore normalcy. California is big enough to split, one part Looniesville and the other part Commonsenseville.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Susannah, 6/22/2014 4:58:43 PM     (No. 9895918)

Demographically, you´d end up with three solidly Democratic states, one Republican state, and two split. So that means 6-8 new Democratic senators.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 6/22/2014 5:51:05 PM     (No. 9895979)

Those who naively wish California would drop away obviously haven´t enough knowledge of what California provides to the rest of the country. Slate had an eye-opening article on it a while back. If I can find it I´ll be back with the link.

They´re also not aware of how many other states take back more than 2 x their contribution to the fed in perks and support to their state. Some of our states are real freeloaders. California is not among them. The last time I checked their take back from the fed was less than $1 on every $1 paid to the fed.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 6/22/2014 5:56:56 PM     (No. 9895988)

Re #22, paragraph 1:

The C-Free Diet
If we didn’t have California, what would we eat?

Expensive and grainy. California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables, and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots (and the list goes on and on). Some of this is due to climate and soil. No other state, or even a combination of states, can match California’s output per acre. Lemon yields in California, for example, are more than 50 percent higher than in Arizona. California spinach yield per acre is 60 percent higher than the national average. Without California, supply of all these products in the United States and abroad would dip, and in the first few years, a few might be nearly impossible to find. Orchard-based products in particular, such as nuts and some fruits, would take many years to spring back.

Price surges would eventually become the larger issue.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 6/22/2014 6:53:28 PM     (No. 9896039)

There is no way the left will give up the guaranteed electoral votes they garner without effort there every presidential election cycle.

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