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Islamic Prayers at Vatican for
First Time As Pope Hosts
Interfaith Prayer

Breitbart´s Big Peace, by Jordan Schachtel

Original Article

Posted By:ramona, 6/9/2014 3:35:12 PM

On Sunday, Islamic Prayers and readings from the Quran were heard from the Vatican for the first time in history. The prayers came as a result of Pope Francis’s request that Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas meet him at the Vatican City to pray amongst each other for peace. Pope Francis hoped that inter-faith dialogue would promote peace between the Israeli and Palestinian people. What remains unclear is why the Pope decided to invite President Peres instead of Abbas’s head-of-state counterpart, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (snip)

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Honestly, I do not understand this move - perhaps the Pope´s motives can be more clearly discerned by our Catholic friends here.
Ramona (the Pest)

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 6/9/2014 3:46:33 PM     (No. 9878815)

Op, I have no clue and I am Catholic.
Growing up, we were forbidden to attend services in any Church that was not Catholic.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: ZurichMike, 6/9/2014 3:51:24 PM     (No. 9878821)

I was raised like #1.

This "touchy-feely" ecumenical nonsense is more rubbish from Vatican 2 "reforms". The current Pope is steeped in Latin American liberation theology (Marxism wrapped in clerical robes) and feel-good 20th-century kumbayah BS.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: TXknitter, 6/9/2014 3:55:51 PM     (No. 9878824)

In a Holy place dedicated to the worship and honor of The Lord Jesus Christ, you welcome prayers to a false god? Words absolutely fail me. As to why Bibi was probably not invited, he is an observant Jew and I am sure he had no intention of joining in OR agreeing with any Islamic prayers.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TXknitter, 6/9/2014 3:57:17 PM     (No. 9878827)

..and I was raised strict Roman Catholic. I too have no clue what the dear Pope could be thinking.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: gerty, 6/9/2014 4:02:33 PM     (No. 9878835)

I hope Papa Francesco knows what he is doing.

On the other hand, he probably has a good relationship with the Holy Spirit Whose feast we just celebrated.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mitzi, 6/9/2014 4:04:16 PM     (No. 9878843)

There´s a very clear explanation given by Fr. Longenecker in his column at Patheos. Nothing new or outrageous. It´s basically the same thing I was taught in Catholic school - pre-Vatican II.

He writes, in part:

Among the non Christian religions we recognize Islam and Judaism as having a special place. Judaism because it is the foundation and root of the Christian faith and Islam because it is another faith in the tradition of father Abraham....(snip)... while also recognizing what we see as defects and partial understandings of the fullness of God’s revelation in Christ Jesus. We recognize in the followers of other religions sincere searching for God.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ruready?, 6/9/2014 4:06:58 PM     (No. 9878851)

"and do not give the devil a foothold."

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ramona, 6/9/2014 4:07:05 PM     (No. 9878854)

My initial response was less than charitable. But we have seen too often that this Pope, in particular, has been quoted inaccurately in the press. As a non-Catholic my advice to him would be "stick to the message." Proclaim the Gospel of salvation through faith in our Lord, Jesus Christ. Leave the peace-mongering to the politicians. Or perhaps we need to revisit those previous sticky statements, too. This is unnerving.
RtP

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Seething Citizen, 6/9/2014 4:08:33 PM     (No. 9878858)

As already said, words also fail me! Unbelievable.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mitzi, 6/9/2014 4:22:11 PM     (No. 9878884)

Please refer to paragraph 841 et seq. in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

If you don´t have your own copy - there´s a PDF version online that´s easily searched.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: envirodude, 6/9/2014 4:24:53 PM     (No. 9878890)

simply the first step on the long road to a unifed world religon

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Reply 12 - Posted by: MirJoy, 6/9/2014 4:58:26 PM     (No. 9878927)

I miss John Paul and Benedict
yes was yes and
no was no

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ramona, 6/9/2014 5:19:21 PM     (No. 9878958)

Thanks, Poster #10 for the reference, which I found:

"841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”330

This is a far more generous view of Islam than I have been taught, and the Pope´s words here make more sense in light of it. I appreciate his interest in inter-faith dialogue, but I question the wisdom of joining them in prayer.
RtP

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Coy860, 6/9/2014 5:27:43 PM     (No. 9878969)

I am uneasy with 2 living Popes.
I am uneasy with the lack of emphasis on Catholics who deny or ignore the Laws of the Church. The Pope should be paying more attention to his own sheep because they are running in all directions and need more guidance. A few holding high office in the USA and promote abortion, for instance.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: usltn, 6/9/2014 9:19:32 PM     (No. 9879246)

I can not believe the Pope would give Islam equal footing with Christianty.Not with as many christians as they have killed.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: sw penn, 6/9/2014 9:48:50 PM     (No. 9879285)

Just a small point...
This is not, of course,
the first time in history
muslim prays
have been offered
in the Vatican.

The last time
the foot soldiers
of the anti-Christ visited,
they made off with the silver.

This time they have actually
been invited upon
consecrated ground
by the historically ignorant
and morally bankrupt.

Thank satan for victory,
take everything not bolted down,
make water in the corners
on the way out.

"Peace Partners!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_raid_against_Rome_%28846%29

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 6/9/2014 10:53:02 PM     (No. 9879358)

Inch by inch it´s a chinch.
Just getting a lay of the land for conquest.

I would never pray with someone who calls me an infidel and wants me dead.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 6/10/2014 12:54:58 AM     (No. 9879452)

The sacking of Rome came to my mind, too.

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