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Could Therapy Culture Help
Explain Elliot Rodger´s Rampage?

Reason, by Brendan O´Neill

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Posted By:Judy W., 5/27/2014 6:44:55 PM

The most striking revelation about Elliot Rodger, the alleged Santa Barbara shooter, is that he had been in therapy for most of his life. A family friend said Rodger had been seeing a therapist since the age of eight. Apparently he had visited a therapist "virtually every day" during his high school years. By the time of the massacre and suicide at the University of Santa Barbara over the weekend, when he was 22, Rodger reportedly had "multiple therapists." Today it has been revealed that so central were his therapists to his daily existence that he emailed his hateful 141-page manifesto to

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Emmajustin, 5/27/2014 6:50:17 PM     (No. 9863828)

I don´t think these punk kids need therapy as much as they need to go out and dig a ditch, build a fence, paint off graffiti, etc---work long, hard hours, and then go volunteer at a charity. They need less Internet and to stop being so self absorbed.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Screwgun, 5/27/2014 6:57:20 PM     (No. 9863837)

FTA: Rodger terrifyingly declares: "I am the closest thing there is to a living god… Magnificent, glorious, supreme, eminent, divine!"

He sounds like a certain big-eared Kenyan I know.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Former lurker, 5/27/2014 6:57:32 PM     (No. 9863838)



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Reply 4 - Posted by: angelesgift, 5/27/2014 7:02:55 PM     (No. 9863845)

This thoroughly screwed up young man was a cash cow for his "multiple therapists". Like prositutes, they charge for the pleasure they provide - and it´s just as empty and fleeting.

It´s sad Elliot never understood how to have respect for himself and others. But that takes work, and sometimes it doesn´t feel so good.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mitzi, 5/27/2014 7:14:43 PM     (No. 9863855)

i>Therapy culture has created a new army of little gods made fearsomely angry by any perceived insult against their self-esteem.

Apparently, it starts with the therapists ... just today, there was an article posted here:

A Florida mental health counselor has been arrested for allegedly murdering her lesbian lover´s two-year-old daughter after the girl´s mother, also a mental health counselor, broke up with her.

http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=785697

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Reply 6 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 5/27/2014 7:29:03 PM     (No. 9863869)

So you are being treated for 16 years and still have problems requiring more treatment? I think that fits Einstein´s definition of insanity to a "T"...
But i guess if you are a shrink and can latch on to a couple wealthy clients, you´d be a fool to cure them and lose the cash cow

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Reply 7 - Posted by: comstock, 5/27/2014 7:37:38 PM     (No. 9863883)

No psychopath has ever been "cured" by the practitioners of the "therapy culture." It´s a self-regulated industry that credentials practitioners who memorize the psychobabble.

What´s the success rate for substance abuse rehab? (see Lindsey Lohan et. al.). What´s the success rate for pedophilia diagnosed child molesters? How about "marriage counselors? Court-appointed "experts?" School psychologists? Anyplace there is a behavioral problem that threatens a well-ordered society they send in the psychos, and they tell us the individual is just"acting out" and pay me a bag of money and I´ll talk him or her out of that behavior.

Either that, or they redefine amorality as "normal behavior." (see homosexuality, cross-dressing, gender reassignment, chronic drug abuse, et. al.).

It´s high time we re-recognize that some people are just plain crazy and should be locked up.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mackrand, 5/27/2014 7:44:34 PM     (No. 9863893)

This is a very complex problem with a very simple solution. That is, there used to be a simple solution. That was a commitment to an insane asylum and that solution no longer exists. So the effects of this absurd political solution to a non problem continues to affect us all. The effect is to continue to let these insane people mix it up with their imagined enemies who are completely innocent and are the real victims.

The cause? Politicians who insert themselves into a societal problem which doesn´t want the interference in the first place. When this change took place there were millions of voices exclaiming that this wasn´t going to end well. And it didn´t, did it?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 5/27/2014 8:17:55 PM     (No. 9863908)

I will almost bet this guy was on SSRI drugs.
Almost all of these mass murderers have been taking them.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: reilly, 5/27/2014 8:24:46 PM     (No. 9863914)


Spare the rod and spoil the child. Think this demon was ever spanked?
I doubt it.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Engrpat, 5/27/2014 8:25:32 PM     (No. 9863915)

FTA: Rodger terrifyingly declares: "I am the closest thing there is to a living god… Magnificent, glorious, supreme, eminent, divine!"

Many years ago, democrats forced the schools to teach "self esteem," that each child is special and deserves special treatment. I would say that they succeeded way beyond their dreams.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: saguni, 5/27/2014 8:31:17 PM     (No. 9863921)

There are so many things running through my mind....

What about the cliche Hollywood father who takes his son to his (Dad) favorite call girl to "learn how" for his birthday?? Isn´t that supposed to be the birthday before the BMW??

I worked with a woman who had been in therapy for years, finally I got tired of her whining about life not being fair, and I told her, "If you have been in therapy for more than a year, there is something wrong with your therapist (meaning therapy wasn´t kept "on track" and she was paying for a friendly ear). "Oh, no!" she wailed, "there´s something wrong with me!" Obviously, she wasn´t "working" on her problems in therapy.

I could comment on the therapists´ lack of discernment, but being trained as a therapist does not necessarily make one immune to being conned. A steady paycheck for just agreeing with a child´s fantasies may be easy money, but look where it lead.
Of course, when the "child" turned 18, the parents no longer "deserved" any access to knowledge as to what was discussed in therapy, he had HIPAA rights, doncha know.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: 2dogs, 5/27/2014 8:55:17 PM     (No. 9863939)

I´d like to hear what kind of "therapists" these were. If he was diagnosed with Aspergers early on, he was probably seeing behavior modification people, probably was in some social skills group therapy, etc. looks to me that he had dual diagnoses: Aspergers AND bipolar or early schizoid. In any case he was an obvious danger, but we can´t lock them up, you know....they have "rights".

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Reply 14 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 5/27/2014 9:05:37 PM     (No. 9863945)

Therapists are like chiropractors - - I´ve never met anyone who has been permanenty cured by either.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 5/27/2014 9:19:34 PM     (No. 9863952)

From the lowly social services flunky to the vaunted shrink, no one has to present a cure. I do love the patches on the elbows of their sweaters ,though.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Shells, 5/27/2014 10:12:35 PM     (No. 9863970)

When I was young and between careers, I decided to get a masters degree in counseling/therapy. People have always loved to talk at me, so I figured, why not get paid for it?

Upon graduating, I tossed the degree in the garbage. Largely because the people I studied with were the most screwed up group of individuals I have ever encountered in one place.

But also because I realized that most people seeking therapy - excepting people who have truly been traumatized by horrors - don´t want to be fixed. Most are just pathologically self absorbed and always will be.

What they need, is God.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: synchronicity, 5/27/2014 10:30:41 PM     (No. 9863979)

All cultures, to remain cultures, require that there is some base belief system that the majority can relate to and which addresses real issues that the individual and society requires handled in a way that minimizes social pathology and the individual´s instinctual drive to fulfill personal desires and attack what they fear / dislike regardless of the consequences.

Our society has declared this concept obsolete and has redefined evil as that which prevents one from acting on a purely instinctual level. The only pathology psychiatrist are allowed to treat unmolested by lawyers, and the general public, is the post-modern created concept of low self-esteem caused by a mean-spirited society. The inevitable result is incurable patients wedded to their enabling psychiatrists for life. If there is real evil, and I know from personal experience there is, then nothing furthers the cause of evil more, while diminishing the health of society, than redefining what is in reality a spiritual disease as purely a case of an entitled person not getting what they want, when they want and how they want. You can´t treat the spirit if you don´t believe it exists.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: kiwinews, 5/27/2014 10:38:51 PM     (No. 9863983)

Yes, he was left to stew in therapy culture. This poor idiot spent so much time with people *paid* to listen to him endlessly discuss himself that he never developed the skill of actual give and take, or even realized what true social interaction might be. Real people have to be won over, not paid by the hour or act a script. Coming up hard against reality with vastly inflated ego, utterly unsocialized, lacking intellectual, spiritual or family resources - violence was the only answer he saw.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 5/27/2014 11:18:54 PM     (No. 9864011)

After watching the tapes, this was one messed up kid whose parents gave him ´things´ and therapist to babysit him. Easy to see why he had no friends, never mind girlfriends. His roommates seemed to be real geeks. Why does a rich kid need roomies ?

His parents have no right to blame anyone, especially the NRA. And certainly not the police for not entering the home to find his arsenal.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 5/27/2014 11:35:36 PM     (No. 9864016)

Over time the smart ones quickly learn to put on an act and hide the delusions for a one hour session. That´s one reason Rodger´s was able to con the cops who called on him when his family expressed concerns he become dangerous. Remember that until fairly recently the culture -and the insurance companies -allowed these kids to be put in institutions for long term assessments. It´s a lot harder to put on an act 24/7/28 days. Today they are just given SSRIs, even when the underlying problem may be incipient schizophrenia rather than anxiety or depression.



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Reply 21 - Posted by: belwhatter, 5/28/2014 6:10:46 AM     (No. 9864163)

Too much of America is wallowing in a spiritual wilderness where the self is venerated rather than our Creator who has given us everything. Many posters have hit on the precept that to reach out and do something for others is the best way to earn some self esteem - it is a commodity that will never be accorded to a person who thinks he should be esteemed just because he exists.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 5/29/2014 12:51:17 PM     (No. 9865803)

I remember reading somewhere that alot of therapists are themselves seeing therapists for what they perceive as personal problems. Have to wonder how badly the therapists mis-diagnosed Elliot Rodger.

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Posted By: DW626- 7/14/2014 6:12:41 AM     Post Reply
Where is the red line of impeachment? In theory, a red line might be located somewhere on a list of impeachable offenses – perhaps at the point where a certain number of transgressions is exceeded, or next to a specific instance because of its significance or impact. In reality, though, that red line exists along a spectrum of “political will.” As Andrew McCarthy explained: “You can have a thousand provable impeachable offenses, but before Congress may remove the president from power, there must be strong popular support – a public will that cuts across partisan and ideological lines.”

   

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