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Retired Africom general testifies on Benghazi
USA Today, by Oren Dorell

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WASHINGTON -- U.S. military personnel knew early on that the Bengahzi attack was a "hostile action" and not a protest gone awry, according to a retired general who served at U.S. Africa Command´s headquarters in Germany during the attack. While the exact nature of the attack was not clear from the start, "what we did know early on was that this was a hostile action," Retired Air Force Brigadier General Robert Lovell said in his prepared statement this morning to members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. "This was no demonstration gone terribly awry." Lovell´s testimony is the first

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The White House must be in overdrive right now preparing more ridiculous responses to this terribly damaging testimony. I still want to know who gave the stand down orders and what Obama was doing. It really is breathtaking to behold. Thank goodness we still have honorable men left in this country.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Truth Czar, 5/1/2014 10:17:49 AM     (No. 9832287)

The Barry Doctrine:
Sit in the corner, close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and him to yourself until it all goes away.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Truth Czar, 5/1/2014 10:22:22 AM     (No. 9832294)

The Barry Doctrine:
Sit in the corner, close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and hum to yourself until it all goes away.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: fhancock, 5/1/2014 10:32:04 AM     (No. 9832315)

For me there is a TRAGEDY and a CRIME here...the TRAGEDY is that the US Military was not directed to save American lives...it is not in our American character to let people wait to die while we do nothing...Obama and Clinton were either cowards or incompetent in a time for moral and strong leadership...the CRIME...Obama and Clinton mislead/lied/directed others to lie to coverup their cowardice and incompetency...if this is not a High Crime or Misdemeanor then there is no such thing

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel, 5/1/2014 10:45:32 AM     (No. 9832337)

Ben Rhodes is the John Halldiman of this ´´Committee to Reelect´´. The cover-up was the impeachment threat to Nixon, ergo let the impeachment of this morally corrupt president begin post-haste.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bpl40, 5/1/2014 10:47:16 AM     (No. 9832339)

Just one question "Who gave the order to stand down?" And the entire mystery will unravel.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: otaval, 5/1/2014 11:05:03 AM     (No. 9832376)



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Reply 7 - Posted by: qr4j, 5/1/2014 11:09:02 AM     (No. 9832386)

FTA: "Lovell said no one at the time of the attack knew how long it would go, so could not have determined then that there was no use in trying."

Exactly! So you respond in hope that you prevent deaths, etc. You don´t wait till the house burns down, if you will, to know whether the Fire Department could have put out the fire.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: otaval, 5/1/2014 11:09:12 AM     (No. 9832388)

I was in USAF air rescue/recovery in Vietnam. That others may live is the motto. We should have given it a go. a pox on this imposter in charge !

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Reply 9 - Posted by: varkdriver, 5/1/2014 11:13:58 AM     (No. 9832396)

#9, thanks for your service; my late father-in-law was an FE on the H-3 and -53 with two SEA tours. It was always comforting to know that you guys always ready.

This retired BG is a NY Air National Guard officer, on a Title 10 activation at the time, I´m sure. I´ll be interested to hear what he has to say.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: strike3, 5/1/2014 11:15:16 AM     (No. 9832398)

As fear of retribution from obama fades away along with his respect and credibility, we will hear much more about that night from the people on the inside. They will nail his cowardly hide to the wall and hillary´s with it.

The Susan Rice e-mail speaks volumes in one short sentence, the obama people knew that they were incompetent and derelict in their duty and nothing will hide that fact now. Amateurs were in charge and good people died.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MattMusson, 5/1/2014 11:25:04 AM     (No. 9832408)

#1 - It is not his ear he is sticking his finger into!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lakerman1, 5/1/2014 11:32:12 AM     (No. 9832423)

You people are not paying attention here.
The military was waiting for a request from the State Department, which would have been the proper protocol, but Hillary was hiding under Huma Abedin´s skirt, I guess.
So this rests on the shoulders of that cunning linguist, Hillary Rodham Clinton. When the phone rang, she ignored it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 5/1/2014 11:34:29 AM     (No. 9832426)

The big question in my mind is still, WHERE WAS BARRY?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 5/1/2014 12:01:22 PM     (No. 9832484)

I used to think like #8 - - that there was no way of knowing how long the attack would last - - therefore it was imperative to activate all resources and get as much help to Benghazi as soon as possible.

But - - with all the latest revelations - - it seems as if there were two Americans who knew with some precision how long the attacks wold last - - Zippy and The PIAPS.

They knew exactly what the terrorists´ objectives were - - and how they would accomplish them - - and when the attack would stop.

Nothing that happened was a surprise to them. And they were fully prepared for the ensuing coverup. This plot was more evil than even any of us suspected.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Coy860, 5/1/2014 12:01:34 PM     (No. 9832486)

All the lies and all the liars...
just to wine re-election. Obama and Clinton are not fit to serve.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: nimby, 5/1/2014 12:13:54 PM     (No. 9832511)

Where was Obama when all of this was going on? No one seems to be forthcoming about that.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: gobushcheneygo, 5/1/2014 12:17:41 PM     (No. 9832518)

Who gave the order to "stand down"? Where was bathhouse Barry during the attack? Where was Hillary? And why has there been no testimony from eyewitnesses that survived the attack? Where are the eyewitnesses? Who keeps them from testifying? Why aren´t members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform demanding their testimony? You want answers? Ask the people who were there.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: smcchk, 5/1/2014 12:20:40 PM     (No. 9832526)

Not to be too optimistic but this ruins any chance for Hilary to be President. A few well made commercials will take care of that. It the least that should happen. And Candy Crowley should be done too!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Freeloader, 5/1/2014 12:35:30 PM     (No. 9832559)

"Hearings get hot."

In October, 1963, the late Joseph Valachi´s Senate testimony finally exposed the "Cosa Nostra"...Will Brigadier General Lovell´s testimony, likewise, finally expose The Obama Crime Family to "the light of day"? Stay tuned. Don´t touch that dial!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Marzon, 5/1/2014 12:42:30 PM     (No. 9832571)

I believe #15 is mostly correct except that there was at least one and possible two unexpected turn of events:

1. The 2 ex Seals that went to help the consulate.

2. Zippy´s Libyan "partners" broke their side of the agreement and went off script simply because they love killing infidels.

I think this original goal of this orchestrated crisis was to either to come up with an excuse to free the blind sheikh and/or to boost Zippy´s foreign police cred by masterfully resolving a "crisis" he in fact helped plan. The video cover story was already in place before the first shots were fired in case anything went wrong. (Zippy ALWAYS makes sure he has someone to blame).

And #19, if this does prevent the Hillary (a.k.a. the Butch of Benghazi) from becoming POTUS then at least their deaths were not in vain.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird, 5/1/2014 12:59:48 PM     (No. 9832595)

General Lovell is in deep pain at 12:56 EDT. His testimony is quiet, low-key, very military, and very strong. He has put the lie to all that the White House has put out and he is pained that the trust of the American people has been lost - those whose "sons, daughters, fathers....brave..." are out there "in harm´s way".

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Reply 22 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 5/1/2014 1:02:29 PM     (No. 9832601)

There is strong opinion that National Security Adviser Tom Donilon and Denis McDonough, who were "in charge" during the Benghazi attack while Obama, Biden and Hillary were out-of-pocket, gave the stand down order.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Grampstosix, 5/1/2014 1:13:29 PM     (No. 9832607)

#13 Bingo.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: enuf8, 5/1/2014 1:20:18 PM     (No. 9832611)

I recently read the two SEALS were not at the Benghazi Annex, but were in Benghazi separately on another concern when they became alarmed about the situation and on their own went to the mission where Amb. Stevens and his aide were killed. They led the individuals to the Benghazi annex and protected them from the roof of the building with the others who joined them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Udanja99, 5/1/2014 1:23:35 PM     (No. 9832616)

It´s not about cowardice or incompetence on the part of the two key players. It´s about EVIL. And anti-Americanism. And treason.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 5/1/2014 2:47:23 PM     (No. 9832710)

The all time award for slipping something less than delicate into this highly refined forum goes to #13 for: ´cunning linguist´.

Well played, indeed.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: oh-heck, 5/1/2014 2:47:44 PM     (No. 9832711)

#13 s right, the military needed a request from State.

While people on the ground were fighting for their lives, discussions among U.S. leaders outside Libya "churned on about what we should do," but the military waited for a request for assistance from the State Department, Lovell said.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 5/1/2014 2:59:07 PM     (No. 9832722)

Where Was Barry...easy one, he was smoking dope and planning he and MOOcher´s next vacation.

Meanwhile ValJar and Soros were directing the response, and narrative for the Libya action.

PIAPS got nabbed in the hallway and pulled by the ear to the situation room. It was determined then that PIAPS would take the brunt of ValJar and Soros´ premeditated murder against our people in Libya. I keep asking myself what were ValJar and Soros trying to hide through this misdirection of murder and deceit?

Any way, Hillary will be the next chump to be thrown under the bus. However, I am not sure why Obumbler is still of use to ValJar or Soros? I would have thought that they would have thrown Barry under the bus as well.

With Biden as president, they could start over with their unrelenting march to soil our nation into a two bit third world nation.

With Biden, ValJar and Soros would have a white traitor to comfort the people. Somehow having Biden in the Oval office would be comforting to both the left and center of both parties.

A white man in the Oval office is normal and breeds a sense of false security. Biden wouldn´t throw our exceptionalism down the toilet....would he? No white president has ever betrayed our Democratic Republic.

And since the O´bamboozeler can not be trusted by the American People, President Biden would be the perfect fit. And if Biden is successful, they would have a total of 10 years to finish throwing America on the trashep of failed Governments. Hum....

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ruready?, 5/1/2014 3:03:40 PM     (No. 9832725)

#28 - I could imagine that the military made some kind of contact with State early on to make sure that they were to "Stand Down". Hope the find such a communication if it exists.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 5/1/2014 4:00:15 PM     (No. 9832796)

I listened to Carney presser and was appalled that he expected to be taken seriously on all the spinning he was doing. How does "unrest" in other Arab countries have anything to do with the FACT that our Ambassador and protectors were under terrorist attacks and the administration did nothing? They were being bombarded with pleas and DID NOTHING, and then blamed a fictional video? No body with half a brain is going to believe that.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: gone2pot, 5/1/2014 4:45:26 PM     (No. 9832839)

Yeah but the latest breaking news indicates no one has any idea what happened to flight 370 and the fat Toronto mayor is going to rehab. What difference does all this Benghazi stuff make? I mean really, can´t we just move forward and focus on important things like Justin Bieber? Geez.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: MirJoy, 5/1/2014 5:09:24 PM     (No. 9832877)

#30 - Isn´t true that the order to "Stand Down" must come from The President? I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

But it is great to see the Brigadier General tell the truth about what happened over there.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Tulunk, 5/1/2014 8:35:34 PM     (No. 9833071)

Did anyone besides me notice Jay Carney´s constant sniffing? And drinking something out of an opaque cup rather than a water bottle? I´ve been told that sniffling is an indicator of nose candy use. That and a dry mouth. Did our little whipping boy need some chemical courage? As to the seals going to the rescue, that would have really stunned the White House bunch. As cowards who know nothing about our military ethics they would never dream of risking their necks for ANYONE!

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John McCain, an immigration hawk. Who knew? Mr. McCain, the highest-profile Republican of the U.S. Senate’s “Gang of Eight” that came up with amnesty as the solution to the immigration crisis — and it truly is a crisis — is finally taking a hard line against President Obama for his encouraging the tidal wave of illegal aliens swamping the southwestern border. “There has to be a halt to this,” Mr. McCain thundered Sunday on CNN. “That’s what we want, and the best way to do that is for planeloads of these young people to be returning to their country of origin

The media can no longer ignore
Obama and Hillary Clinton´s problems

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Washington Examiner [DC], by Noemie Emery    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/16/2014 5:15:16 AM     Post Reply
It had to come sometime, and it came in one very bad week for the Democrats: that the many big problems with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama finally grew too great for the press to ignore. Obama in his own different way is heading towards Nixon-like levels of weirdness, as, beaten down by the failures regarding his ventures, he appears to have quit his own job. A.B. Stoddard of the Hill says in effect he has stopped being president and chooses to live in a world of his own, shutting out the problems that have become overwhelming, giving dinners where he talks

Rove American Crossroads
in Mississippi Controversy

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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 7/16/2014 8:43:14 AM     Post Reply
The headline in the Washington Post on June 4 was clear: Rove-backed American Crossroads won’t get involved in Cochran runoff Said the Post story the day after Tea Party favorite Chris McDaniel had defeated six-term Mississippi GOP Senator Thad Cochran in the first round of the state’s GOP primary: American Crossroads, a GOP establishment organization, has decided to shift its political focus almost entirely to the general election and will not be spending money in the likely runoff election to decide the Mississippi Senate nomination that was virtually deadlocked after Tuesday night. […] “Other than Alaska, we have completed our work on Senate primaries

Exclusive - Sessions Warns All of Congress:
Obama´s New Immigration Strategy ´Threatens
Foundation of Our Constitutional Republic´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 9:28:19 AM     Post Reply
Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) has warned all of his colleagues in Congress that President Barack Obama’s new immigration strategy—his plans to legalize millions of illegal alien adults through executive power—could destroy America as we know it. “I write to inform you of a development that threatens the foundation of our constitutional Republic,” Sessions, Congress’s top immigration hawk, wrote in a letter that was hand-delivered to all 535 members of Congress on Monday and provided exclusively to Breitbart News. Sessions cites a recent report from the National Journal, in which reporter Major Garrett detailed how, despite the ongoing

Eric Holder: Americans Should Not
Be ´Color Blind,´ But ´Color Brave´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 1:34:47 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Eric Holder encouraged Americans not to forget race while working for justice and equality in their country. “As it stands, our society is not yet color blind -- nor should it be -- given the disparities that still afflict and divide us.” Holder explained, “We must be color brave, and we must never forget that all are made better and more prosperous if all are given equal opportunities.” Holder made his remarks during a speech at Howard University on Tuesday for the 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Civil Rights Act. “We must take into account not only the

Behind the scenes at the
Clinton White House

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New York Post, by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/15/2014 5:04:05 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — It was an enduring image of his presidency: a chastened Bill Clinton walking his dog while wife Hillary keeps her distance as the family leaves town at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal — but it was all part of a contrived public-repentance campaign, according to a new book. With Bill on the skids and his wife’s future prospects on the line, it was necessary for the pubic to see the president being punished, said Weekly Standard online editor Daniel Halper in his new book, “Clinton, Inc.: The Audacious Rebuilding of a Political Machine.” “They understood that


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