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Black students disciplined at higher rates
than whites at Wichita-area schools

Wichita Eagle [KS], by Suzanne Perez Tobias

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Posted By:wildcat1, 4/27/2014 6:41:25 PM

Black students at schools in Wichita and surrounding districts are disciplined at higher rates than their white peers, a trend that mirrors racial disparities throughout the country, according to the most comprehensive survey of school civil rights data in nearly 15 years. The findings, part of an expansive survey of America’s public schools by the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, shows that black students are more likely than whites to be suspended or expelled at middle and high schools in Wichita and most area districts. Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities. But

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Maybe they misbehave at a higher rate than whites. :-/

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: southron, 4/27/2014 6:50:45 PM     (No. 9827058)

More white students must be disciplined to level the statistics -otherwise its discrimination.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mws50, 4/27/2014 6:50:48 PM     (No. 9827060)

In related news, black students violate school policies at a higher rate than white students.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Northcross, 4/27/2014 6:59:20 PM     (No. 9827068)

...and more will end up in prison, on drugs, and on welfare. This is not exactly news.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 4/27/2014 7:02:32 PM     (No. 9827073)

This is what happens when you judge people by "the content of their character" and not "the color of their skin".

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MissMann, 4/27/2014 7:06:25 PM     (No. 9827078)

On the one hand you have a culture that generally values education, so the kids generally come to school to learn.

On the other hand, you have a culture who considers education a sell-out of your race, so they come to school for...what? To avoid truancy?

Hmmm. I wonder which group has a higher rate of discipline problems.

Why don´t they compare discipline rates among Asian students and white students. I can guarantee you the culture that values an education more highly will be the one with the lowest rate of discipline problems.

Time to stop blaming the schools and put the blame where it belongs: home culture.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Noj15, 4/27/2014 7:07:31 PM     (No. 9827079)

"it´s difficult to pinpoint the reasons for the disparities..." Wow, you call this journalism? I´ll give you fie reasons right now why Blacks are failing:
1. Kids have no respect for anyone of anything.
2. Kids receive ZERO discipline at home.
3. Kids in failed schools taught by failures.
4. Kids can´t read.
5. Kids have no regard for students who do want to lean.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: HPmatt, 4/27/2014 7:07:43 PM     (No. 9827080)

Correlate this against single parent households

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jkb, 4/27/2014 7:15:09 PM     (No. 9827089)

I´d like to know what race the people reporting the discipline issues are. I spent some time on a NAACP committee in my school district that wanted to study this same issue. Their goal was to prove that the problem was lack of understanding of the black culture and misinterpretation of actions by whites. No one wanted to hear that there were more black teachers in that school than white so the ´misunderstanding´ shouldn´t be a problem for them.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: saguni, 4/27/2014 7:40:18 PM     (No. 9827104)

I wholeheartedly agree with poster #2. Articles such as this never have a statistical column for incidents that were kept below the level of suspension, in order to give the student a "second chance" to behave as expected and obey the rules.

Trayvon Martin didn´t have a police record only because the school refused to follow the law and report him for the time he possessed a marijuana pipe and residue, nor for the time he was caught with women´s jewelry and burglary tools. The school wanted to have "better numbers" on their record with minority students.

How many times are black students held to a lower standard, then still suspended because they aren´t disciplined at home and refuse to follow the rules at school? How often are white students given full punishment on the first infraction, yet see the same black student doing the same thing multiple times before effective punishment??

I know this is anecdotal, but my personal experience is that a black child will become belligerent and curse "authority figures" as a first reaction, while other children will be respectful in hopes of a lesser punishment. And a black driver will become belligerent and curse "traffic cops" as a first reaction, while other drivers will be respectful in hopes of a warning ticket. Maybe it is just the people I meet, my parents raised me to not be a bigot, but one too many times I have had an angry black curse me with you owe me ´cuz I´m black an´ your not. It wears a person down after a while

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Reply 10 - Posted by: krause, 4/27/2014 7:57:18 PM     (No. 9827114)

Boy, this is really hard to figure out why!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Pearson365, 4/27/2014 8:15:29 PM     (No. 9827122)

This survey is a clear warning to public schools: The Obama administration is going full black supremacist with public education. Administrators & teachers are being closely monitored by the DoJ and the Dept of Education´s Civil Rights Unit for any and all actions that can be construed as biased against black students since blacks are now a protected class. It doesn´t matter how unruly, how physically threatening or how much they deny others an education, black student miscreants are now free to essentially behave as they wish.

What Obama X is doing to our already struggling public schools is that race matters far more than education.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: FormerNYer, 4/27/2014 8:18:29 PM     (No. 9827126)

Knock Out game
flash mobs that burglarize stores & malls
Bloods - Crisps et al
like dotters before me --- bro & hos not respectin nutin

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Emmajustin, 4/27/2014 8:31:04 PM     (No. 9827133)

obama about to give would-be thugs one more justification to be a thug.
Which will lead to a follow up study of these same black kids that will show that more of them end up in prison!
Correlation of blaming someone else for your problems and ending up in prison: positive!



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Reply 14 - Posted by: mackrand, 4/27/2014 8:35:57 PM     (No. 9827135)

This is the tail wagging the dog. Some time ago I wondered out loud what "room temperature IQ" meant. Some very basic information came out almost immediately while searching for that answer. From my point of view there is only one common factor that causes one race to be habitually more able to get along with their peers and society in general. That is basic intelligence. Doesn´t take a rocket scientist to see that a yearning for learning and realization goes hand in hand with success in life. There seems to be a lack in some of the understanding that knowledge is the key to success. Ridiculing another for wanting that knowledge is simply the lack of thinking ability. Many educators have found themselves on the outside looking in when they attempted to show this in black and white. No wonder to me that there is this blind spot in education. Purely a matter of survival I would say.

There is nothing to be gained by disruptive behavior in society. Too bad this is a common trait in the ignorant. It´s been said that "He who knows not and knows not that he knows not, shun him. He is a fool." We seem to have a country where fools rush in as the song says.

Fools are just about the only ones who cannot see why it is that black students are disciplined at higher rate than whites.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Madman2, 4/27/2014 8:43:28 PM     (No. 9827140)

How about a headline that says ´´Male students disciplined at higher rates than female´´? Then the story could tell us about they obvious sex discrimination against boys! s/

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bighambone, 4/27/2014 8:46:10 PM     (No. 9827144)

Could a complete failure to follow the teacher´s instructions, threats against teachers and other students, and extreme violent behavior be the causes for this apparent disparity?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: mark34, 4/27/2014 9:14:51 PM     (No. 9827163)

Sorry .... the headline and the first sentence were mis-written. Here are the fixes:

Here is a fix of the headline: "Black students misbehave at higher rates than whites at Wichita-area schools"

And here is a fix of the first sentence: "Black students at schools in Wichita and surrounding districts misbehave at higher rates than their white peers, a trend that mirrors racial disparities throughout the country, ......"

Sorry about the mistakes in the story as originally written.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Penney, 4/27/2014 9:22:46 PM     (No. 9827167)

The school´s rules are as a, ´line in the sand, which all students know they should not cross. ...Ergo, maybe the stats cited if they are correct, prompt the question, why do more black students choose to cross the line and break the rules?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mamafrog, 4/27/2014 9:48:35 PM     (No. 9827195)

I am a retired teacher, I taught middle school and later I taught pregnant and parenting teens. My first response was that this was stating the obvious. Then thinking about it more, I realized that I saw the racial disparity when I taught middle school, but not when I taught the pregnant girls.

In an ideal world every child would have perfect teachers, perfect parents and all the resources they need to be successful. Until that time there are going to be differences because people are not interchangeable widgets.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: oh-heck, 4/27/2014 10:11:34 PM     (No. 9827219)

Never before has there been a president and an Attorney General who believed disparate outcomes were the result of discrimination. At these same schools, were blacks student disproportionally represented on the basketball teams? Was that racism or disparate talent?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: john56, 4/27/2014 11:06:19 PM     (No. 9827263)

Here´s how most school districts "balance" these stats:

1. Overlook much of the misbehavior of minority students at their schools. You really have to screw up to get something happen to you.

2. Woe be it to a "majority" (aka white) student caught with even a minor offense at school. They´ll throw the book at you to make their stats look right.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Muguy, 4/27/2014 11:21:44 PM     (No. 9827280)

Would it be safe to say that the kids who need to be disciplined aren´t being disciplined because it doesn´t fit with the mantra of the day that (for the umpteen billionth time) black kids are being singled out?

Stuff like this would lead one to believe that only white or black kids get into trouble at school--

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Reply 23 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 4/27/2014 11:36:07 PM     (No. 9827289)

The title is wrong. Why not say
"The students with the most behavior problems at Wichita area schools are blacks"

Like # 8 I sit on a board and the thinking is ´different´ and certainly conditioned. The amount of free stuff thrown at minorities is beyond anything you believe. No one expects them to do better without a stick and carrot.

We have two people sitting in the wh who could have made a difference, but chose not to do so.



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Reply 24 - Posted by: KTWO, 4/28/2014 12:17:59 AM     (No. 9827307)

About 60 years since Brown v. BOE was decided. The educators have proved incapable of creating the perfect environment and results.

Therefore the DoED and DOJ from Washington should take over all those Wichita-area schools and show America how perfect people run a school system.



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 4/28/2014 12:47:53 AM     (No. 9827314)

Prin: Miss Greevy...come in here this instant!

Greevy: Yes Sir?

Prin: I see we have been punishing black kids more than white kids! What´s up with that?

Greevy: Well, Sir. It´s mainly due to the ...um, well, frankly, Sir, the fact that the black kids are more anti-social and express so much more anger toward all things educational - they say education is "da white man´s rule!"...Sir.

Prin" Hmmm. That may be true. I have been noticing a growing sense of "Blackness" identity among them. What can we do about this racial imablance in the punishment category, though?

Greevy: Round up a bunch of random white kids and opunish them until we achive punishment parity...Sir?

Prin: Greevy! That´s why I like you. You are always thinking out of the box. Do it! but, don´t tell anyone it´s random...just make up some sort of excuse for administering the punishmnt...exaggerate the positive, gal!

Greevy: I´m on it, Sir, like white on rice!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Pinchem, 4/28/2014 2:27:27 AM     (No. 9827340)

FTA: Education officials say it’s difficult to pinpoint reasons for the disparities.

You don´t suppose the black students cause more problems than white students?

ATTENTION Black Parents: Show me your children and I´ll tell you exactly what YOU are.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: canuckchopper, 4/28/2014 8:36:12 AM     (No. 9827517)

Isn´t it racist to keep statistics on race?

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