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Stop dressing so tacky for church
CNN, by John Blake

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Posted By:StormCnter, 4/20/2014 4:40:56 AM

If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

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Amen, amen! I´m so uptight about dressing for church that I only wear skirts, no pants. My long-gone grandmother is watching.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: grace1798, 4/20/2014 5:31:40 AM     (No. 9817493)

We had to stop going to church many years ago. I am not sure if it´s just a problem or mindset of the small town we live in or if it´s all over.....but soon as you join a church, some persons get weird, jealous and target you if they tend to be jealous or gossips. We were going just to fellowship and stay closer to God but we discovered we are much closer to God when we avoid them and their weirdness. I´m not saying they are all weird, but there are certain persons who cause trouble and the church does nothing about it. And when you´ve are having your own problems with life, you don´t need those extra straws at church, of all places, to add to the stresses of life. Our lives are so much better now that we just AVOID them. (Sorry to it´s that way, but it´s the facts).

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Reply 2 - Posted by: FoxMox, 4/20/2014 5:42:53 AM     (No. 9817496)

Be thankful that people show up. The speading of the Gospel is not a fashion show.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LAW428, 4/20/2014 6:16:49 AM     (No. 9817514)

It´s about what´s on the inside, not what´s on the outside! God cares about your heart not your Givenchy accoutrements. The idea that this is even a concern shows a misdirected focus on what is and isn´t important.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: grace1798, 4/20/2014 7:02:07 AM     (No. 9817543)

Don´t misunderstand, I am not anti-church. If church works for you, you should go, absolutely! Now as to the issue of how to dress.......I honestly believe we should dress modestly. Doesn´t have to be great or expensive clothing. Just dress modestly is all that is required. I´ve seen women in churches and heard them find fault with other women for not wearing dresses, yet I´ve seen these women wearing dresses...cross their legs and I can see everything up in there! Yea, gross! How is that modest? Yet, those women who wear the dresses were trashing women who wore loose tailored pant suits that covered EVERYTHING! But somehow.....that was wrong? hmmmmm. That made absolutely no sense whatsoever! It just takes common sense. I would never wear jeans to church services ...YET...if someone came to church wearing jeans, I would not say a word against it, I´d be glad they were there. Just need to use Common Sense in these issues people. Come on now.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bgarrett, 4/20/2014 7:03:36 AM     (No. 9817544)

Be thankful that people show up. Church attendance has been dropping for years. The spreading of the Gospel is not a fashion show.
If Jesus showed up, he would not be admitted because of his clothes and haircut

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Reply 6 - Posted by: crunchycon, 4/20/2014 7:22:41 AM     (No. 9817554)

So, maybe the Almighty doesn´ t care about my appearance, but, to my way of thinking, he deserves a bit better than blue jeans and a band t-shirt. It´s not about dressing to impress, but to show respect.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: atexaslupine, 4/20/2014 7:38:35 AM     (No. 9817562)

Church--like the Christian life--should ALWAYS be "come as you are". If you don´t allow people in flip-flips to come in, they won´t come in at all. Do you want your narrow-mindedness to keep someone from hearing the gospel? Allow them to grow in faith and respect, and stop being so darned "judgy".

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Reply 8 - Posted by: StormCnter, 4/20/2014 7:58:09 AM     (No. 9817575)

No one wants to stop anyone from hearing the Word, no matter that person´s appearance. But, there is nothing wrong with applying our own standards to ourselves. I´m with the earlier poster. It´s about respect.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: MoBeef4u, 4/20/2014 8:15:46 AM     (No. 9817590)

I would suggest that the vast majority of those who dress sloppily for church are not too poor to wear something more appropriate. I, too, think it´s about respect.
For those who like Bible quotes, there is the parable of the wedding guest who was not dressed appropriately and who was thrown into the darkness where there was weeping and gnashing of teeth. The idea being that what is on the outside is a reflection of what is on the inside.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 4/20/2014 8:19:32 AM     (No. 9817592)

I agree with OP...it´s about respect. But in addition, church and religion has been dumbed down by the mega churches in order to get thousands and thousands to attend.

I am not so offput by the modern clothes as I am by the modern music. It is repetitious and often written in a minor key. What happened to the soaring, uplifting music of the Presbyterians and where did we lose the rollicking music written key of B flat 3/4 time of the Baptists? The beautiful old music told the story of God´s love for all of us.

I bet today I don´t get to sing The Old Rugged Cross or I Come to the Garden Alone. When that music left so did the respect for church and the desire to show respect for God.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Udanja99, 4/20/2014 8:25:56 AM     (No. 9817597)

Yes, it is about respect. A couple of decades ago, our priest spoke to this issue by asking, "If you were invited to dine at the WH, how would you dress? In your very best clothing, of course. By attending mass, you are ´dining´ at God´s house. Shouldn´t you dress accordingly?"

BTW, if you´ve ever attended services at a predominantly black church, you know that this is not an issue for them - they understand and practice "Sunday Best".

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mre, 4/20/2014 8:27:55 AM     (No. 9817598)

The problem is not what people in the pews wear. The problem is the structure and format of the "service" that this preacher and a huge number of American Christians continue to promote and participate in.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Engrpat, 4/20/2014 8:41:33 AM     (No. 9817607)

I look at the church as the House of the Lord and that being the case I must show proper respect and dress accordingly.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 4/20/2014 9:09:51 AM     (No. 9817635)

A problem churches have had since the rise of the metro church (as opposed to truly local, community member churches) is the loss of a feedback loop.

Maybe Rev. deBonville should examine his parishioners´ attire as a subconcious reflection of the perceived value they receive from attending that church.

Even the laziest, most narcissistic of us are not immune to the impact of "coming into the presence of the living God." But tradition for tradition´s sake is the sarcophagus of a dead religion.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 4/20/2014 9:21:35 AM     (No. 9817643)

It is about respect, and you don´t wear dirty or scruffy clothes or bedroom slippers, etc., to an important event.

That said, neat casual should be acceptable.

Times have changed. Look at the old video of people going to baseball games, men in suits and ties, ladies in dresses, most people wearing a hat.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: StuartL, 4/20/2014 9:34:24 AM     (No. 9817653)

Apropos a "temple" of another sort: I recall being appalled, even as a teenager, when back in the ´70s the program book handed to members of the audience as they entered the San Francisco Opera House contained, for the first time, a discreet little notice requesting that patrons check their backpacks.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lancer12, 4/20/2014 10:49:25 AM     (No. 9817724)

The Lord sees what people look like and what is in their minds and hearts. the Rev mislikes looking out at the audience and seeing low-class ruffians; he deserves elegant well-dressed persons (like the Oscars, but not the low-life music awards.)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chumley, 4/20/2014 10:54:05 AM     (No. 9817730)

Back when I was a teenager and Grandma would drag us to church, many of the young women would wear very pretty white dresses. If they caught a sunbeam just right you could see everything God gave ´em. THAT was truly a religious experience.
I haven´t been a Christian in over 20 years, but do love those memories.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: cheeflo, 4/20/2014 12:12:04 PM     (No. 9817807)

When I was growing up, we had Sunday clothes that were reserved for church and special occasions. It seemed to me, even as a child, that the intent was to demonstrate respect and acknowledge the dignity of the occasion. These days, people go to church in clothing better suited to the gym or beach.

I realize that people showing up is the whole idea and it isn´t a fashion statement, but a little extra effort also speaks volumes.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 4/20/2014 12:41:57 PM     (No. 9817828)

I don´t agree that if you dress up, you´re making it a fashion show. I wear a nice dress because I´m honoring the Lord, His presence in the Sanctuary. I wear nice clothes, Seventh-day Adventists wear nice clothes for the most part. We don´t get upset if someone doesn´t, it´s a personal decision whether to make this about respect for our Creator or about our own importance and wishes, or even abilities and possessions. (not all people have dress clothes) Wear your best, be it sandals or dress shoes. Just honor the Lord with your best.
Btw, Sunday is not the Sabbath. :D


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Reply 21 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 4/20/2014 1:07:57 PM     (No. 9817850)

When we used to go to a mega-church I´d notice people pulling up in their $45K SUVs but dressed like they barely had 2 nickels to rub together. Scruffy sandals, shorts, and cheap shirts were not uncommon. This church had a coffee shop so many also brought their Starbucks and a scone or piece of crumb cake into the service. Maybe it makes people feel ´comfortable´ but there´s dressing at least decently won´t kill anyone.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 4/20/2014 2:59:06 PM     (No. 9817920)

#20

While I am not a Seventh Day Adventist I agree that Sunday is not the Sabbath Day. The fourth commandment is the only commandment that begins with; Remember. Ex. 208-11 and repeated in Deut. 5:12-15 and Matt. 5:16-20 plus Jesus said about the Commandments; "Not one jot or tittle will be changed."

The gentiles accepted Paul´s Serman at Antioch, worshiped on the Seventh Day Sabbath Acts 13:42-44. Isaiah says we shall all worship on His Sabbath Day in the new heaven and new earth. Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

I believe remember is for a purpose intentionally as God knew that the Catholic Church would change His Sabbath Day. Even the Pope and his cardinals insist that the Pope has the ecclesiastical authority to change times and places as the Pope is the sole authority of God in the flesh on earth. They state that if they do not have that ecclesiastical authority why did most all other denominations follow there change?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: StormCnter, 4/20/2014 3:03:07 PM     (No. 9817925)

"This church had a coffee shop so many also brought their Starbucks and a scone or piece of crumb cake into the service."

#21, I cannot imagine. The first time I saw such a scene would have been the last visit I made to that church. How can people be so unaware of why they are in God´s house?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Susannah, 4/20/2014 4:12:22 PM     (No. 9817974)

Sheesh, why stop at coffee? Why not a Big Mac and fries? Or a picnic lunch or brunch? And make sure to bring a newspaper in case the sermon´s dull.

Seriously, how hard is it to take a few extra minutes on Sunday morning to dress appropriately? We had some neighbors with seven kids. Every Sunday morning, the mom in a dress, the dad in a suit, and the children in their little suits or dresses would depart for church--at eight a.m.



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 4/20/2014 8:01:11 PM     (No. 9818132)

I´ve had a string of luck then....been to many churches and all were attended by people who cared about their appearance even if it didn´t mean being dressed to the nines.

PS....how and why would people bring cups TO a Starbucks? Surely it´s the other way round?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/20/2014 9:21:26 PM     (No. 9818172)

#21, here I was being appalled about the service we attended where cooking smells were wafting into the auditorium from the nearby kitchen where a number of ladies were running back and forth between the food they were preparing and catching a bit of the service. Kids, and anybody else, wandered in and out of the service at will. There were pockets of whispering and other distractions.
Everybody seemed to think nothing of it. I was thinking that the preacher would have halted his sermon and called for order if parents, or someone in the audience, hadn´t put a stop to it in some congregations. But I really can´t imagine anything like that happening at any service I ever attended while growing up.

I do think the Starbucks and crumb cake would have been enough to send me over the edge and out the door. Amazing.

We kids all learned reverence for God and respect for His house from the time we were toddlers. We understood the purpose of attending church. We went to the restroom before service, and only on rare and necessary occasion went back during worship service. The only ones who had anything to eat during service were the babies that had their bottles given to them if they began to fret before service was over.

Everybody wore "Sunday clothes" to church back then.










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Reply 27 - Posted by: god of irony, 4/20/2014 9:28:16 PM     (No. 9818176)

Yeah I remember that time when Jesus said be off you lepers and prostitutes, I´m playing the country club today.

I am also pretty sure God is everywhere and not just in his house and if he wanted to, he could see right through my clothes no matter what I was wearing.



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It had to come sometime, and it came in one very bad week for the Democrats: that the many big problems with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama finally grew too great for the press to ignore. Obama in his own different way is heading towards Nixon-like levels of weirdness, as, beaten down by the failures regarding his ventures, he appears to have quit his own job. A.B. Stoddard of the Hill says in effect he has stopped being president and chooses to live in a world of his own, shutting out the problems that have become overwhelming, giving dinners where he talks

Rove American Crossroads
in Mississippi Controversy

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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 7/16/2014 8:43:14 AM     Post Reply
The headline in the Washington Post on June 4 was clear: Rove-backed American Crossroads won’t get involved in Cochran runoff Said the Post story the day after Tea Party favorite Chris McDaniel had defeated six-term Mississippi GOP Senator Thad Cochran in the first round of the state’s GOP primary: American Crossroads, a GOP establishment organization, has decided to shift its political focus almost entirely to the general election and will not be spending money in the likely runoff election to decide the Mississippi Senate nomination that was virtually deadlocked after Tuesday night. […] “Other than Alaska, we have completed our work on Senate primaries

Exclusive - Sessions Warns All of Congress:
Obama´s New Immigration Strategy ´Threatens
Foundation of Our Constitutional Republic´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 9:28:19 AM     Post Reply
Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) has warned all of his colleagues in Congress that President Barack Obama’s new immigration strategy—his plans to legalize millions of illegal alien adults through executive power—could destroy America as we know it. “I write to inform you of a development that threatens the foundation of our constitutional Republic,” Sessions, Congress’s top immigration hawk, wrote in a letter that was hand-delivered to all 535 members of Congress on Monday and provided exclusively to Breitbart News. Sessions cites a recent report from the National Journal, in which reporter Major Garrett detailed how, despite the ongoing

Eric Holder: Americans Should Not
Be ´Color Blind,´ But ´Color Brave´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 1:34:47 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Eric Holder encouraged Americans not to forget race while working for justice and equality in their country. “As it stands, our society is not yet color blind -- nor should it be -- given the disparities that still afflict and divide us.” Holder explained, “We must be color brave, and we must never forget that all are made better and more prosperous if all are given equal opportunities.” Holder made his remarks during a speech at Howard University on Tuesday for the 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Civil Rights Act. “We must take into account not only the

Behind the scenes at the
Clinton White House

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New York Post, by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/15/2014 5:04:05 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — It was an enduring image of his presidency: a chastened Bill Clinton walking his dog while wife Hillary keeps her distance as the family leaves town at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal — but it was all part of a contrived public-repentance campaign, according to a new book. With Bill on the skids and his wife’s future prospects on the line, it was necessary for the pubic to see the president being punished, said Weekly Standard online editor Daniel Halper in his new book, “Clinton, Inc.: The Audacious Rebuilding of a Political Machine.” “They understood that

Obama AWOL as border crisis worsens
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Washington Times, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/16/2014 5:02:13 AM     Post Reply
John McCain, an immigration hawk. Who knew? Mr. McCain, the highest-profile Republican of the U.S. Senate’s “Gang of Eight” that came up with amnesty as the solution to the immigration crisis — and it truly is a crisis — is finally taking a hard line against President Obama for his encouraging the tidal wave of illegal aliens swamping the southwestern border. “There has to be a halt to this,” Mr. McCain thundered Sunday on CNN. “That’s what we want, and the best way to do that is for planeloads of these young people to be returning to their country of origin


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