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The Debate Will Be Over When the
American People Say It’s Over

Weekly Standard, by Jeffrey H. Anderson

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 4/18/2014 3:55:34 PM

Shortly after the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare, the CBO projected that 9 million people would buy Obamacare-compliant insurance through newly established government-run exchanges. Now, after an enrollment period that his administration expanded by about two months—to more than half a year—President Obama says that 8 million people have “signed up” for (but in many cases haven’t actually bought) insurance through those exchanges. The Obama administration’s stated goal was to have 39 percent of those who bought such insurance be between the ages of 18 and 34. Now Obama says the actual percentage is 28 percent. Only in Washington, D.C. could someone

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 4/18/2014 4:32:40 PM     (No. 9816020)

Maybe someone out there can explain to me, how we´re suppose to be excited about 8 million or whatever number they want to throw out there, in a country of 350 million. Wasn´t the idea to cover everyone? Sounds like there´s 342 million out there not covered.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bpl40, 4/18/2014 5:51:12 PM     (No. 9816101)

It will be over when this abomination of a law and the criminal enterprise behind it masquerading as an Administration is cast to the ash heap of history. That time is coming!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 4/18/2014 6:20:43 PM     (No. 9816141)

In November, the GOP will take the House again with even more conservatives.

The GOP will also take the Senate with numbers to override any veto Stinky might make on the demise of ObumblerCare.

An then there are those who have been found in contempt of Congress, Jail is just Seven Months away...Yeh.

Then Stinky will know that the American People want his smelly sandwich thrown in the dumpster.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Wizard of IS, 4/19/2014 7:23:27 AM     (No. 9816589)

How I long for the day when I will no longer hear Oblahblah´s verbal tics:

I´ve made it perfectly clear (subtext : you idiot!)
I have consistently said (subtext : you idiot!)
The debate is over. (subtext : you idiot!)

What an insufferably arrogant jerk!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 4/19/2014 7:31:08 AM     (No. 9816597)

Author´s conclusion FTA: Alas, the press doesn’t have the final say on Obamacare, and neither does Obama. The American people have the final say—and that’s why Obamacare will be repealed and replaced with a conservative alternative within days of Obama’s departure from the White House.

I wonder if Mr. Anderson really meant to start the sentence with the word "Alas" when everything that followed was so positive and hopeful. I looked up the word "Alas" in my computer dictionary and I think I am right that Anderson didn´t really mean "Alas" - I would think he meant "At last".

a·las
[uh-las, uh-lahs] Show IPA
interjection
(used as an exclamation to express sorrow, grief, pity, concern, or apprehension of evil.)



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Reply 6 - Posted by: strike3, 4/19/2014 7:55:11 AM     (No. 9816616)

With every droning speech, you can hear the desperation in Hussein´s voice but Valerie Jarrett will not let him stop pushing his signature legislation. Obamacare is the only thing they have done in five years that has not flopped on its face yet but when it does, it will be like a mountain coming down.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: knarfski, 4/19/2014 8:15:34 AM     (No. 9816631)

Obama is in the propaganda business. A guiding principle appears to be: Proclaim, proclaim, proclaim...things don´t have to be true so long as they are believable.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Udanja99, 4/19/2014 8:25:24 AM     (No. 9816641)

I wish that I could be as optimistic as #3, but between massive voter fraud, IRS still targeting conservative groups and Republican stupidity (Boehner hell bent on passing amnesty), I´m doubtful about the coming elections and the Republicans´ willingness to actually do what needs to be done.

On a more positive note, happy Easter everyone!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: cgood, 4/19/2014 8:32:58 AM     (No. 9816653)

Anderson gives a good summation of the many negative consequences of this terrible law. Unfortunately, all the American people have gotten is talk from the pundits and politicians supposedly on the right. I wish I shared his optimistic view that the republicans will repeal the law when/if given the chance. There is plenty of evidence that most of our so-called representatives don´t understand our founding principles and they don´t have our best interests at heart. They will fold when the politics heats up and the takers start screaming about losing their healthcare.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum, 4/19/2014 9:09:43 AM     (No. 9816698)

Obama and his lackeys believe if the tell a lie long enought, it will be believed. They may be on to something. Many people parrot the lies and swear they are truth. Unless they are clearly refuted they will go on with the spreading of these lies to achieve their goal. Republicans must get better in offering up easily understood facts. Boehner and McConnell are pathetic at this. They hem and haw and can´t frame the debate. The left is quick with sharp words to shut down any criticism. Republicans stand there flat footed looking dim in the face of opposition. If you can´t make the case it doesn´t matter how good your ideas are, they will be ignored. We need some fast talking straight from the hip shooting communicators and we need them now. Obama and his crew never give in, never shut up, and know communication is a weakness for Republicans. If you have the best ideas, you must have the best communicators or else they are not heard.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Stryker714, 4/19/2014 9:38:17 AM     (No. 9816740)

Don´t worry #8: The Democrats are only effective at cheating in presidential elections, namely in the swing states. The Senate seats they stand to lose are not in any swing states I am aware of except maybe Ohio. They lost NC anyway in 2012. Plus the dimocrats got "shellacked"(Obama´s words) in 2010 midterms. They have only angered and alienated more and more voters since and many will go out of their way to vote in 2014 midterms, to empty the trash, like refuse Mary Landrieu.

After winning the Senate/2014, the pubs should immediately repeal ACA or make voluntary for now. If Obama vetoes it, Congress should give Obama a good dose of his own modus of ignoring laws/procedures and declare it "deemed as passed", tell Zippo they do not recognize a "veto". If he pitches a hissy fit,
tell him accept or be impeached/prosecuted. To repeal it while he is still in office would be a grrreat smack down, just desserts!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Raristotle, 4/19/2014 10:03:49 AM     (No. 9816763)

Anderson notes what the fundamental flaw of Obamacare is:

"It’s bad—horrible, actually—because it requires private citizens to buy a product of the federal government’s choosing for the first time in our nation’s entire history; because it funnels unprecedented amounts of power and money to Washington, D.C. and away from everyday Americans."

Masked behind all of these "7-8 million signups" metrics is the fact that Obamacare moves America significantly closer to the Platonic ideal of statism. When our freedom is diminished, when the Constitution is abrogated, and when our dependence on government grows, our nation becomes weaker. With Obamacare, we are moving closer to the point of no-return--to the inflection point in the curve of national collapse (if we haven´t already reached it). Even if Obamacare improved healthcare outcomes, even if it provided more healthcare coverage to citizens, and even if it "bended to cost curve", none of those possible benefits would balance out the fact that it certainly destroys our national resolve and character. It makes us accept our relationship with government the way a vassal accepts that the lord is forever above him. For this reason, Obamacare needs to be destroyed, not reformed.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Raristotle, 4/19/2014 10:12:56 AM     (No. 9816772)

One addenda to my post--when I wrote, "Even if Obamacare improved healthcare outcomes, even if it provided more healthcare coverage to citizens, and even if it "bended to cost curve", I am not conceding any of these points. I would be willing to bet my entire retirement account that none of these metrics would improve--healthcare costs will increase, true access to healthcare will decrease, and healthcare outcomes will not improve because of Obamacare. I´m conceding them to show that our freedom is more valuable than all of these.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 4/19/2014 10:57:58 AM     (No. 9816829)

"Alas," the weakest links in the GOP´s new power to be, are Boehner and McConnell.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: tonyp173, 4/19/2014 11:13:46 AM     (No. 9816852)

#3, we currently have 45 Republicans in the Senate--including the RINOs. To have a veto proof Senate we need 67. There is no lucid estimate that gets us to 55, let alone 60 (for cloture) or 67 to override a veto. It´s still a horse race for the Republicans to win back the majority of 51. Though we have a majority in the house, we would need to take 59 new seats to have a veto proof majority there. That is very unlikely. So, unfortunately, your prediction is mathematically impossible. Even after a Republican sweep of the Congress, Obama will be able to veto any attempt to repeal Obamacare, unless a whole bunch of democrats join the effort. While that´s not impossible, it is also unlikely. Since Obama will then try to govern even more w/o Congress, the threat he poses to our Republic will continue at a higher and more dangerous level.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ocjim, 4/19/2014 12:41:01 PM     (No. 9816965)

Hellbent lefties like President Bluffer instinctively scurry to shut down debate. Debates that they can´t win on the facts. In fact this closeout of debate --- be it on climate change, gay rights, obamasnare, or whatever ---is so transparently dishonest, so lefty cliche, so...,er, comical, actually.
I don´t know what disgusts me more... bankrupt, historically discredited leftist governing philosophy, or their sheer shameless intellectual dishonesty. Some days I just flip a coin on that one.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ocjim, 4/19/2014 12:49:46 PM     (No. 9816980)

And I think it was George Will on Special Report that made an excellent comparison of ´´working.´´ To wit, ethanol policy is ´´working´´ in the sense that it is implemented and mandated. But, even Time magazine calls is a Loser, a failure that works because it is the law and subsidies sustain its life. In the same way obamasnare may be working for a long time. In gooberment, ´´Working´´ is no substitute for sound policy that does a net public good. President PrettySpeeches needs to go back to his bamboozle war room and come up with a better grade of sophistry to justify the obamasnare namesnake monstrosity.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: HonestDon, 4/19/2014 1:09:31 PM     (No. 9817005)

#14´s one line speaks volumes. And those "weak links" are symptoms of a still larger problem - the "Republican Establishment." Those in leadership positions are, at best, Democrat Lite. They´ve been there long enough to learn that "staying in power" is more important than doing right by the American people and the Constitution. Actually I question that they even care about the American people. Like their "esteemed colleagues," the Democrats, they see themselves as the ruling class who know better what we, the huddles masses, "need."

What a terrible thing we´ve done - allowing this to occur at all, let alone grow to such proportions on our watch. I fear for my grandchildren. They won´t know the freedoms and liberty that we have squandered!


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Reply 19 - Posted by: rsgonner, 4/19/2014 10:56:43 PM     (No. 9817410)

I have this fantasy that in 2016 with a republican president, senate and house all of obozo´s past will be unsealed, we will see he never was eligible to be POTUS and all the bills he signed are null and void....then I wake up. Republicans like Boehner, Ryan and McCain don´t have the stones.

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New York Post, by Geoff Earle    Original Article
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WASHINGTON — It was an enduring image of his presidency: a chastened Bill Clinton walking his dog while wife Hillary keeps her distance as the family leaves town at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal — but it was all part of a contrived public-repentance campaign, according to a new book. With Bill on the skids and his wife’s future prospects on the line, it was necessary for the pubic to see the president being punished, said Weekly Standard online editor Daniel Halper in his new book, “Clinton, Inc.: The Audacious Rebuilding of a Political Machine.” “They understood that

   

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