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RAND study: By our estimate, 3.9 million
people signed up for ObamaCare, not
7.1 million like the White House says

Hot Air, by Allahpundit

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 4/9/2014 4:25:19 AM

A caveat right off the bat: RAND’s estimate only runs through March 28 whereas the actual deadline for signing up was March 31st. Given the crush of traffic on Healthcare.gov in late March, many more people could have signed up over those last three days than were captured by these numbers. On the other hand, the White House was claiming six million sign-ups as of March 27. There’s no way to reconcile that with RAND’s data. One of them is wrong. Maybe both, in fact. There’s a big spike in Medicaid, just as everyone expected. There’s a less big but


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Reply 1 - Posted by: beca, 4/9/2014 5:15:20 AM     (No. 9803528)

talk about FUZZY MATH.....this may be the LIE OF THE YEAR.........wow this bunch lies like there is no tomorrow....and if they keep on there may not be..............

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Reply 2 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 4/9/2014 6:24:04 AM     (No. 9803552)

I´m shocked, shocked that this regime would fudge the figures s/o

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Country Boy, 4/9/2014 6:28:28 AM     (No. 9803554)

Whatever the number of paying enrollees is, 90% of them already had insurance that obamaCare made them lose.

People who had no insurance before will continue to have no insurance. One of the cardinal rules of liberalism is that it will never make your life better, only worse.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Trigger2, 4/9/2014 7:10:59 AM     (No. 9803588)

Just wait until the taxpayers find out how much they´re going to have to pay to bail out the insurance participators. I can only assume Barry will declare it a national secret.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 4/9/2014 7:20:16 AM     (No. 9803600)

So, 309 mill signed up, minus "x" million who lost insurance due to Ocare and could not afford Ocare =´s millions uninsured by Ocare.

Great. At a cost of trillions.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 4/9/2014 7:22:36 AM     (No. 9803604)

I´ll take my statistics done medium rare, please.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mws50, 4/9/2014 7:25:07 AM     (No. 9803611)

What wasn´t reported is the successful sign-ups. 3.9 million signed up, but only 2 million signed up successfully.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: edgar, 4/9/2014 7:31:00 AM     (No. 9803622)

The WH has used the term, "enrolled." As in they paid their minions to enroll multiple times, driving up the enrollment figures to meet the goal, knowing full well they would not be issued coverage. It gives the WH short term statistics to hide behind. It´s all about perception and the uncurious press corps´ willingness to perpetuate the perception. Its kind of like the Climate Change gang, here are our findings, we just can´t show you the figures that demonstrate how we arrived at our conclusions.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Udanja99, 4/9/2014 7:36:42 AM     (No. 9803631)

Zippy claimed that a million people signed up in the last day or so, but the website crashed twice during that period, once for 6 hours. If that were true, it would be the biggest miracle since the raising of Lazarus. Also, the figures I´ve seen say that only about 800,000 have signed up and actually paid.

The "If you like your..." statement was the lie of the year for 2013, and the 7.1 million number is the lie of the year for 2014.

Do leftists ever get tired of being lied to?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: marthaville, 4/9/2014 7:50:48 AM     (No. 9803654)

Thanks to the news media, many Americans will be unable to purchase health insurance until the next enrollment period. If you read the news and listened to the legacy media, the Obamacare website was down much of the day on March 31. So, if you resigned yourself to wait until the next day, the worst you expected was a penalty for the part of the year you end up being in violation of the law. So you try to sign up for health insurance on April 1, hours after the deadline. Only you find out there is no insurance available that satisfy the eleven essential benefits. You can purchase other insurance, but you will be subject to the Roberts SCOTUS tax. Thanks Obama. This is not about making sure all citizens can purchase individual health insurance. It never was and never will be. And a big thanks to the worthless Democrats that voted for this piece of junk legislation.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: strike3, 4/9/2014 7:51:23 AM     (No. 9803656)

Hey, 45% error isn´t bad for this jackass administration. They are ususally 100% dead wrong on every issue.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lazyman, 4/9/2014 7:57:06 AM     (No. 9803664)

I am sure the rest of the stats they are giving out are true like jobs, inflation, etc.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 4/9/2014 8:17:33 AM     (No. 9803695)

Obamacare is just another welfare program..most of the signees are getting Medicaid or are in prisons or getting subsidized.
WHO is going to pay? Our children.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Freeloader, 4/9/2014 8:26:14 AM     (No. 9803703)

As it is written---"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and The Bamster´s statistics."

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rinktum, 4/9/2014 8:41:47 AM     (No. 9803728)

Is anyone surprised? Obama, by hook and crook, did exactly what he said he would do with the enthusiasm and support of the democrats and worshipping media. The lies he spins would no doubt increase the rotation of the earth if sent in that direction. Few care about truth anymore. It is becoming a dying concept. Only those crazy conservatives harp on that. The corruption of this administration rises and falls on their ability to believe a lie and sell it to the American people. Until truth becomes the basis for the debate, it´s business as usual. It is nigh to impossible to have a conversation with the opposition when they embrace deceit. Time for a new strategy for the Republicans. Challenge every lie with facts. Make them defend their lies.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Joe vann, 4/9/2014 8:52:21 AM     (No. 9803745)

We live in Obama World. A make believe, upside down world based on PC, socialist ideals and tyranny. We must take the Senate in November and then we should be able to stop the destruction of America and then elect a American President in 2018. At that point we could begin addressing two of our main problems : the msm and our educational system...along with a host of others. Vote !!! Get involved !

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Reply 17 - Posted by: congar, 4/9/2014 9:01:25 AM     (No. 9803760)

His Majesty, Barack Obama, has lied so obviously about such easily verifiable facts that it’s astonishing anyone pays him any attention about anything. Only the MSM keeps recording his every utterance as if it came from God.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 4/9/2014 9:02:02 AM     (No. 9803762)

There´s three kinds of math: math, fuzzy math and Omath.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: dman, 4/9/2014 9:09:20 AM     (No. 9803775)

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics" - Courtney, Disraeli, Twain, et al

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Reply 20 - Posted by: MattMusson, 4/9/2014 9:27:26 AM     (No. 9803801)

Liberals love Obama´s Press releases the way Pinoccio´s girlfriend likes oral sex.

"Lie to me! Lie to me!"

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Reply 21 - Posted by: oh-heck, 4/9/2014 10:23:29 AM     (No. 9803902)

So the invincibles figured that rather than be taxed, they would pay the monthly premium of their employer plan. What happens when the employers announce cancellation of their plans in Oct 2014?

Didn´t UPS drop coverage for working spouse from their plans in 2013? In such a situation wouldn´t the spouse be considered uninsured at the end of 2013 and then newly insured on her employer´s plan?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Historybuff, 4/9/2014 10:25:54 AM     (No. 9803907)

But we were told that over 40 million people were without insurance.

There should have been a stampede to sign up, instead we had to beg people to sign up, for a program they had to bribe senators to vote for.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Grambo, 4/9/2014 10:49:10 AM     (No. 9803967)

Obama counts his signups like Geithner does his taxes.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: nevernaught, 4/9/2014 11:01:36 AM     (No. 9803994)

On one hand, a study by the respected Rand Corporation. On the other hand, false figures from a disrespected lying fool.

I be thinking the Rand people.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Butch59, 4/9/2014 11:32:58 AM     (No. 9804075)

I´ve often wondered where the term "math-a-magic" came from. Now I know. I was created by Dims a long time ago!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Tall Oak, 4/9/2014 11:49:04 AM     (No. 9804113)

This is the parsing of words and manipulation of numbers. There is no definitive way to gauge this failure until parameters are defined.

There were 5 million policy cancellations sent out. How many people? Did the average policy cover one person or an average of one and a half people, which could result in 7.5 million dropped? What is an enrollee, someone that visited the site, signed up for a policy, or actually paid for one?

Did the 30 million uninsured prior to zerocare include illegal aliens? Did it include the wealthy that decided to pay out of pocket? How about prison inmates?

Every year, everyone that lives becomes a year older, over 4 million 26 year olds would be dropped from their parents plan just by turning 27, are they the new enrollees?

If the economy is “recovering” so well that employer provided insurance pools would increase, why the big increase in Medicaid? Why would the employers be expanding the group insurance pool when 75% of the “new jobs” are part timers that were hired to evade providing coverage?

This is nothing but smoke and mirrors that the rats engineered for the non thinkers – “We are providing more coverage, you can keep your doctor, it will provide better care for everyone, and it will save you $2,500 a year.” What a scam. Dumbed-down America is catching on sooner than anticipated so the rats are doubling down on their lies to buy more time to set the hook.

It reminds me of a cartoon I saw years ago – a man looking at his plate in a restaurant asks the waiter what it is, the waiter replied giddily, “It’s a burnt phonebook! We gave it a fancy French name, and you ordered it!” Bon appetit, America.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mean Gene, 4/9/2014 12:06:51 PM     (No. 9804149)

Legal Insurrection blog has a post up showing that a Gallup study proves, ´´Uninsured rate still higher than under BUSH.´´
Even when penalizing people and handing out freebies, Obama failed to get the percent of uninsured down to where it was when he took office!
See, part of the problem was the ´´Peggy´s´´ of Obama´s world.
People immediately stopped paying for stuff once Obama took office.
Mortgages, gas bills, insurance and so on.
They just knew Obama would take care of them.
And, they´ve been right.
Free phones, more Food Stamps and now free insurance.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 4/9/2014 12:11:12 PM     (No. 9804156)

We like to blame the msm for being a (large) part of the problem. They are.

But we must ask ourselves, "What´s their motive?" What´s in it for them?

The range of honest answers would shock and depress anyone. Try it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: steveW, 4/9/2014 1:06:49 PM     (No. 9804280)

It does not matter what the actual statistics are. What matters is that the MSM cares about social justice and, because they care, are allowed to continue their lies and cover-ups with total impunity. The rest is silence.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: golden, 4/9/2014 2:10:08 PM     (No. 9804390)

Hey I have an idea. Lets ruin everyone´s health care so that we can have 3 million people receive subsidized healthcare. Lets make people pay more for healthcare they don´t need and raise the rates. And take money from medicare to fund this monstrocity too. Oh yeah and make it mandatory too. Did I miss anything?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: lonestarm3, 4/9/2014 2:58:54 PM     (No. 9804457)

The National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO) was the Cloward - Piven beta test.

Obamacare / Affordable Care Act (ACA) is the Cloward - Piven "Final Solution."

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Reply 32 - Posted by: JediJerry, 4/9/2014 5:08:44 PM     (No. 9804617)

Lies are the coins of the kingdom, and our Falsifier in Chief spends those coins like there is no tomorrow.

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 9:28:19 AM     Post Reply
Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) has warned all of his colleagues in Congress that President Barack Obama’s new immigration strategy—his plans to legalize millions of illegal alien adults through executive power—could destroy America as we know it. “I write to inform you of a development that threatens the foundation of our constitutional Republic,” Sessions, Congress’s top immigration hawk, wrote in a letter that was hand-delivered to all 535 members of Congress on Monday and provided exclusively to Breitbart News. Sessions cites a recent report from the National Journal, in which reporter Major Garrett detailed how, despite the ongoing

Eric Holder: Americans Should Not
Be ´Color Blind,´ But ´Color Brave´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 1:34:47 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Eric Holder encouraged Americans not to forget race while working for justice and equality in their country. “As it stands, our society is not yet color blind -- nor should it be -- given the disparities that still afflict and divide us.” Holder explained, “We must be color brave, and we must never forget that all are made better and more prosperous if all are given equal opportunities.” Holder made his remarks during a speech at Howard University on Tuesday for the 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Civil Rights Act. “We must take into account not only the

Behind the scenes at the
Clinton White House

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New York Post, by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/15/2014 5:04:05 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — It was an enduring image of his presidency: a chastened Bill Clinton walking his dog while wife Hillary keeps her distance as the family leaves town at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal — but it was all part of a contrived public-repentance campaign, according to a new book. With Bill on the skids and his wife’s future prospects on the line, it was necessary for the pubic to see the president being punished, said Weekly Standard online editor Daniel Halper in his new book, “Clinton, Inc.: The Audacious Rebuilding of a Political Machine.” “They understood that

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