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Conservative Leaders Predict Tea
Party Will Win GOP’s ‘Civil War’

Cybercast News Service, by Barbara Hollingsworth

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Posted By:JoniTx, 4/4/2014 8:59:04 PM

The increasingly open “civil war” now raging between a Republican establishment that favors big government and members of the Tea Party is a necessary evil that will eventually force the GOP back to its limited government principles, conservative leaders say. “This is part of a literally 102-year-old civil war that’s been going on in the Republican Party since 1912, when Teddy Roosevelt leaves the Republican Party, splits the party, starts the Bull Moose Party, which leads directly to Woodrow Wilson’s election with less than 42 percent of the vote,” Conservative HQ chairman Richard Viguerie told CNSNews.com.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: slipstik, 4/4/2014 10:07:50 PM     (No. 9798283)

And so I say "so what". Do you not understand that the time and place for political solution are over? The federal government, just by sheer force of the number of bureaucrats is a juggernaut we cannot contain by political means. Add to that the number of bureaucracies with their own armed forces, right down to the library of congress for pete´s sake, with their own bullet inventory. There is no leader you can elect, there is no appointee you can emplace, there are not enough representatives of any stripe you can elect who can save us from our own self imposed doom. We should have paid much more attention when we had the chance. We let our republic get away from us and now we get to pay the piper. Calamity awaits... You may as well bend over right now, before they force you to. Or... There may be a day 100 or 1000 years out where someone will try this again, and I can only hope that the history of our failure is lurking somewhere in their libraries, unsuppressed by political correctness, and maybe they might learn. We blew it. We´re supposed to learn from our errors, right??? I´d make a joke about Common Core here, but it wouldn´t be funny.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: SpinMaster, 4/4/2014 10:14:46 PM     (No. 9798293)

This is why those of us in North Carolina need to elect Dr. Greg Brannon, vice Karl Rove pick Thom Tillis.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 4/4/2014 10:24:50 PM     (No. 9798313)

Interesting note about the original RINO T. Roosevelt, a socialist, a racist, and a warmonger. Roosevelt´s face should be dynamited off of Mount Rushmore. His supreme ego gave us Woodrow Wilson, who set in motion the long relentless march toward totalitarian government. I do not believe the GOP can be cleansed of RINOs. The GOP must go away and be replaced by a real conservative party.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 4/4/2014 10:37:24 PM     (No. 9798327)

The g-o-pee needs us. We do not need them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dman, 4/4/2014 11:10:29 PM     (No. 9798344)

LDotters know all too well that this ´Civil War´is real. It is being played out on these threads. However, I must disagree with Viguerie in that a ´takeover´ is the best path. That was done in 1964, 1980, and to a lesser extent in 1994. While conservatives briefly grabbed the reins, the Establishment was never totally displaced, and re-took the reins once conservatives relaxed. I doubt this pattern can be broken.

We must ´bite the bullet´ and go the route of a new party - Establishment types not welcome. The way to ´unsplit´ the conservative vote is to be rid of the GOP Establishment. Yes, the Dems will win the next few elections, but in a few cycles the new party can prevail, once the GOP has been diminished to the point where it no longer siphons off conservative votes. The political vacuum is there, including dissatisfied Democrats, and that gives us hope. It will be difficult, however, and it will be downright scary, but we really do not have another option. It was scary at Valley Forge and Utah Beach, too.

No more Establishment lies and misdirection. Be gone. We need a fresh start and a ´clean´ party.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: absalom, 4/5/2014 2:36:55 AM     (No. 9798431)

#5, dman, to his great credit, speaks truth to power!
The GOP is not and has never, ever been a principled conservative party and wishing otherwise is the triumph of delusional fantasy over cold reality.
Allow me use an analogy from history that might irritate some but is appropriate. In 1933-35, facing extermination from the Kuomintang Armies, Mao took his people on the fabled Long March of some 9000km. into north west China, in order to escape and fight another day. Today, his heirs rule China!!! The GOP is the Great OZ. Let go as those who persevere shall conquer.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 4/5/2014 2:42:21 AM     (No. 9798433)

My take on reality mirrors #1, but the desire of my heart reads like #5.

I´m afraid, though, that we are just out of time. The juggernaut of federal and state bureaucracies cannot be contained by electing new representatives, even if they are hard-core conservatives. The insidious nature of the communist "transformation" can only be cut out, like a cancer.

We´ll have to live through Part III of "Atlas Shrugged" before we can return to the ideals of our beloved Constitution.

Until then, fast and pray. God is our only hope to prevent another shooting Civil War. The veneer of civilization is thin, and its already gone in Detroit, Wilmington, and Philadelphia as evidenced by the articles posted above this one. We have free-range feral "amish" yuts. I saw their handiwork during the Rodney King riots in L.A. That´s why the Timber King and I moved to our current undisclosed location deep in the mountains of northern California.

We´re on our own folks. Who is John Galt?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 4/5/2014 3:03:08 AM     (No. 9798447)

The conservatives had better win or the country is lost and there will be no saving it from destruction by the Marxist democrats and republican Marxist democrat want-to-be´s.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mikkins2, 4/5/2014 3:09:56 AM     (No. 9798450)

The current evidence before us shows that the Republican Establishment is most likely going burn the entire party to the ground behind them as they retreat towards the democrat party or K Street. Its foundation of principles has long ago eroded and been replaced with the flimsy unsteady supports of politics and greed.

The question will be is it worth the effort to salvage what is left, or just leave the ruins as a reminder of what happens when money overrules principle, and build anew.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rakasha, 4/5/2014 7:10:07 AM     (No. 9798521)

While I agree that we are unlikely to make serious changes in the GOP, I believe that our best chance for success is to continue a war of attrition on the established Government while we build a base for a new party. Every go-along-to-get-along that can be replaced by a limited government, Constitutionalist slows down the process of destruction.



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Reply 11 - Posted by: dman, 4/5/2014 12:39:23 PM     (No. 9798924)

We can do both, #10, like the New York Conservative Party. Endorse true conservatives in a long shot attempt to reform the GOP, while fielding our own candidates to oppose RINOs in the general election. But we must form the new party to even have a chance.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: StormCnter, 4/5/2014 1:00:57 PM     (No. 9798944)

#11, I have been reading your posts about a third party for a very long time. Are you having trouble forming one or joining one or what? There are lots of third parties already in existence and I imagine all of them would welcome you.

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