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What´s the Alternative?
Weekly Standard, by Jeffrey H. Anderson & William Kristol

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Posted By:grace52, 4/4/2014 4:29:37 PM

The crowing by the Obama administration over getting 7 million people to sign up for mandatory health insurance—with some portion actually paying for it—will soon fade. The big picture will remain clear: Obamacare isn’t working. And Americans, who didn’t like Obamacare when the Democrats passed it four years ago, don’t like it now, don’t want it to remain, and doubt it can be fixed. But they also don’t much want to go back to the pre-Obamacare world. According to Real Clear Politics, a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll of registered voters was the 111th consecutive poll to find more opposition to Obamacare

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Reply 1 - Posted by: curious1, 4/4/2014 4:58:05 PM     (No. 9798017)

Yeah, boys, we DO want to go back to the pre-O´tardCare world. And then get fedgov out of the medical practice tent entirely. Note that includes getting the fedgov out of the insurance regulation business. Not to mention keeping its nose out of state´s business and forcing hospitals to offer free care no matter what.

The whole ginned up ´48 mill w/o insurance´ brouhaha was just another version of the AGW / ´CO2 levels are too high we´re all gonna die´ hysteria to cover a power grab. I want to see those responsible publicly hanged.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin, 4/4/2014 5:11:39 PM     (No. 9798029)

There is no apparent alternative due to the liberal media suppressing all dissent. The alternative:


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Reply 3 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 4/4/2014 10:52:08 PM     (No. 9798334)

Once again we are being treated like idiots, like people who cannot objectively evauate options. Any viable alternative to Obamacare, would have to include the following:

2. Insurance across state lines.
3. Decouple health insurance from employment.
4. Health Savings Accounts

Any proposal which does not include 1 through 3 is a non-starter.

Item #1 is why you´ll NEVER get meaningful health insurance reform from the lawyers and politicians who run this country!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Really?, 4/5/2014 7:47:48 AM     (No. 9798554)

If it can be repealed there are a few things that will HAVE to remain.

People who have enrolled will HAVE to be allowed to keep their coverage making it so the Insurance Company can only cancel it for non payment of premium. (Yes, this will stick them with the losses)

Cobra will have to be modified.

HSAs will have to be allowed and paying premiums from HSAs will have to be allowed.

Medicaid will have to be expanded and will cost us a fortune, but it may include a floor level of coverage for everyone.

It is STILL going to cost the Government a fortune and will put pressure on the deficit and on taxation.

We won´t be able to get out of it without rewarding the low income Americans, but if we are lucky we will not have to reward illegal aliens....keep our fingers crossed.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Coy860, 4/5/2014 7:53:48 AM     (No. 9798562)

Stop the Obama madness and REPEAL.
Already the stories are surfacing of peoples´ deaths due to Obamacare.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: planetgeo, 4/5/2014 8:18:06 AM     (No. 9798588)

It´s not enough to come up with an alternative (and yes, a well-crafted alternative is needed because healthcare and health insurance were runaway freight trains headed for a cost crash even before this). Whatever the conservative alternative is, it needs a champion. Namely, an articulate spokesperson who can describe its features, explain the critical points of differentiation from the disastrous Obamacare, and attract the necessary coalition to move it forward as a replacement.

And there´s the problem. Today, the Republican Party is totally, hopelessly adrift with no such charismatic, articulate champion in sight. We´re being led by the political equivalent of the 7 Dwarfs (Weepy, Grumpy, Sleepy, etc.).

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Reply 7 - Posted by: sinic, 4/5/2014 8:20:30 AM     (No. 9798593)

Prohibition was repealed...they can repeal this terd. #3 has it right, but might I add
5. Catastrophic insurance policies
6. Prohibit drug manufacturers and lawyers from

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Reply 8 - Posted by: guybee, 4/5/2014 8:22:04 AM     (No. 9798595)

The BIG problem is selection against the companies. They cannot price insurance reasonably, it they are forced to take people with known conditions. It is a form of redistribution of wealth to force insurers to cover preexisting conditions. This needs to be done in a separate pool that is separately priced for these costs. It is not insurance.

Separately - health insurance should be a utility, like phones, electricity and gas. It is tied to the residence and the services are performed in the geographic area. Those who need to cross boundaries for extraordinary care can do so by purchasing a rider on the policy that allows this flexibility.

The government does not need to be in this business except to collect the funds and remit to the providers. There would need to be a common remitter.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: chicodon, 4/5/2014 9:07:08 AM     (No. 9798644)

The answer is plain.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: dkrieb, 4/5/2014 10:08:45 AM     (No. 9798727)

Besides FOX, can we possibly find another conservative group to buy one of these leftist MSM companies? It would certainly change the narrative.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: tnorling, 4/5/2014 10:53:46 AM     (No. 9798794)

Agree with other poster. Tort reform is essential and was never ever even considered by the corrupt liberals who crafted the legislation.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: trapper, 4/5/2014 11:32:02 AM     (No. 9798839)

The alternative is NO Obamacare. Having a discussion about how a non-Obamacare medical system could be improved or made better is premature. Obamacare has so screwed up the American system of paying for and delivering healthcare that there is no way to fix it or twiddle with it or fine tune it. Obamacaare must be REPEALED in its entirety. Then, once the system has normalized a bit, we can make some piecemeal reforms of the NON-Obamacare medical care system.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 4/5/2014 11:44:39 AM     (No. 9798851)

I just re-watched Ted Cruz, lawyer, on the 1 April Fox & Friends show (where he revealed his Winston Churchill tattoo). In citing the key elements in an ACA replacement plan, this Senator....for whom I have a very high regard...did not even mention tort reform. I´ve contacted his office, challenging him on this VERY GLARING OMISSION.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Butch59, 4/5/2014 12:47:35 PM     (No. 9798932)

I understand that there have been several programs offered by the Republicans and some even passed the House. So, repealing and REPLACING Obozocare can be achieved. Of course, as #3 pointed out, if they don´t already contain some of the points #3 gave, especially tort reform, then it´s a non-started. And any plan offered must have input from the healthcare industry, insurance companies, and the public. The Republicans should already be working on just such a plan that can be used during the upcoming campaigns and be told to every one in the country.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: saguni, 4/5/2014 4:06:38 PM     (No. 9799120)

While I like the suggestions of poster #3, I have a problem with "2. Insurance across state lines."

There are two components of that suggestion:

1) Cost of living. This is entirely dependent on the location of the medical provider. A New York City provider is paying much higher costs for the building and the employees than a provider in, say, Mississippi or Arkansas. The insurance companies should be able to cover the provider´s costs of maintaining a facility by charging more (or less) based on location, possibly by zip code.

2) State "mandates" The state legislatures have always had the ability to determine what types of care must be included with every policy sold within a state. If one decides they, personally, do not want to be covered for that particular condition, the consumer should be able to decline the coverage, with a positive declaration (or initial a box on the application) with the understanding that the coverage could only be added at a (open enrollment like) period once a year. So a single man could positively decline maternity care, and not have to pay for coverage he could never use.

I would also like to see the government out of the insurance business, except for military in the VA. Have all Medicare policies managed be an individually chosen insurance company (like Medicare Advantage). Medicare supplemental and even plain Medicare recipients could choose from a variety of policies, like MA beneficiaries do now, the claims would all flow through a fraud department before payment, and "Medicare" would become a payment support for the benefit, only, and the expedited payment system that allows so much fraud would be eliminated. This type of system might work for MedicAid, too.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: snakeoil, 4/5/2014 6:58:57 PM     (No. 9799244)

Is KenyanKare here like herpes? Don´t know. It will take a different White House and a congress with gonads to overturn it. The one change I´d make to the health care system is to enable people to be treated at a cheaper rate if they sign a form wavering any malpractice lawsuits against doctors, hospitals, etc. A good portion of the cost health care is malpractice suits. This would force ambulance chasers like John Edwards to find real work.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Trigger2, 4/6/2014 6:27:14 AM     (No. 9799524)

BarryCare is a total usurpation of States´ rights plus the demonrats grand way to destroy the economy, which they are doing dramatically. No wonder Holder and the DNC are fighting state laws against voter fraud. How else can they get elected?

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