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Bob Kerrey Calls Obama a Delusional
Liar; Renders Himself MSM Nonperson

Newsbusters, by P.J. Gladnick

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Posted By:JoniTx, 3/30/2014 6:22:08 AM

Imagine if a former Republican presidential candidate and U.S. senator had called a current Republican president a delusional liar whose programs are wasteful. Would the mainstream media not be all over the story? Such a person would be interviewed at length by Wolf Blitzer on CNN as well as made the rounds of the morning talk shows and the Sunday news programs as well. The media buzz would be red hot on this topic for days extending into weeks. Well, there is such a person but because he is a Democrat saying these things about President Obama, we can expect

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 3/30/2014 7:11:29 AM     (No. 9790333)

HUZZAH! The dam is bursting! I can see it now, Sen.Bob Kerry doing an hour on the Morning Joe slobberfest....or not.

Anyway this news is out there.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: rustycfc, 3/30/2014 7:17:40 AM     (No. 9790337)

No wonder the most news media are sinking fast. Will they ever wake up?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: quantumman, 3/30/2014 7:37:03 AM     (No. 9790348)

Kerrey must feel safe in his tax return filings or maybe it´s just the fact he doesn´t care anymore about covering for The Precious. The MSM as noted will sweep this under the proverbial rug.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 3/30/2014 7:37:41 AM     (No. 9790349)

What he forgot to proclaim him as is Public Enemy Number One! His picture is in all the post offices, but on the wrong wall.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/30/2014 7:39:14 AM     (No. 9790351)

Kerrey has an affinity for calling his own party´s presidents out. In 1996, he characterized then-President Bill Clinton an "unusually good liar".

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Reply 6 - Posted by: miceal, 3/30/2014 7:47:27 AM     (No. 9790358)

Pass the popcorn.....

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Passion, 3/30/2014 7:50:05 AM     (No. 9790360)

The amazing take away line was when he admitted that "everbody since 1913 (meaning Democrat Presidents) have had a mandate to raise taxes…"

Yep, that´s who they are, period….raise and raise and raise taxes until we have a government dominated society…that is their mandate…..since (at least) 1913.



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Reply 8 - Posted by: strike3, 3/30/2014 7:57:51 AM     (No. 9790370)

How could you be a proper democrat and not slobber all over Clinton and Obama? They are like the poster children for sleaze, corruption and greed.

Kerrey must be a DINO.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: geoguy, 3/30/2014 7:59:38 AM     (No. 9790374)

Sen. Kerrey voted for Obamacare so he´s part of the problem. It sounds like he´s running for reelection so he´s running away from Obamacare. Is he up for election soon?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 3/30/2014 8:01:15 AM     (No. 9790378)

without the MSM this means nothing however nice to see an honest Democrat

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Reply 11 - Posted by: M2, 3/30/2014 8:01:34 AM     (No. 9790379)

Wow, a Democrat calls it like it is. Good on him. "Delusional" and "liar" in the same truth-telling session. Will wonders never cease.

Keep praying. It´s working...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 3/30/2014 8:07:16 AM     (No. 9790384)

This article should be a Must Read. Former Senator Kerrey gave a lot for his country - he was a Navy Seal and he lost part of his leg in combat. I don´t think he is intimidated by punks like Obama or wusses like the MSM who are hell-bent on destroying the country he fought and sacrificed for.

Here is part of his bio. Most people outside of Nebraska or the U.S. Senate wouldn´t know of his courage.
Awarded: Congressional Medal of Honor on May 14, 1970 by President Richard Nixon, “For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a SEAL team leader during action against enemy aggressor (Viet Cong) forces.”
Other Awards: Bronze Star, for action Feb 25, 1969, in Thanh Phong, Vietnam.
Contributions Bob Kerrey served with distinction as a Navy SEAL in Vietnam from January – March 1969. On March 14, 1969, Kerrey led a SEAL unit on a daring operation to capture key Viet Cong political cadre personnel. He was severely wounded in an intense firefight by an enemy grenade that cost him part of his leg. Kerrey continued to direct his men in the firefight and extraction. The captured prisoners provided critical intelligence for the U.S. Kerrey was subsequently awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions.


Thank you Senator Kerry. Your courage in the face of danger has not waned.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Write2Right, 3/30/2014 8:10:06 AM     (No. 9790386)

This article IS a Must Read. Has been for an hour. Hit refresh every now and then.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Adam, 3/30/2014 8:16:29 AM     (No. 9790389)

Calling Diogenes! I have found an honest man.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: jhpeters2, 3/30/2014 8:16:32 AM     (No. 9790390)

Don´t make too much out of this. It is an intrinsic part of democrat DNA to diss a president when traveling outside the USA. It is genetics.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: steveW, 3/30/2014 8:18:22 AM     (No. 9790393)

To be fair, let´s look at it from the Obamamedia point of view:

1. All criticism of Dear Leader Barack Hussein is racist.
2. Bob Kerry is a Democrat.
3. Democrats cannot be racist because they care so deeply about helping people.
4. Therefore, Bob Kerry´s criticism of Dear Leader Barack Hussein does not exist.

See, it makes sense in whatever they´re pretending to use for minds.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: G-Tom, 3/30/2014 8:26:20 AM     (No. 9790404)



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Reply 18 - Posted by: G-Tom, 3/30/2014 8:27:42 AM     (No. 9790405)

Do NOT trust ANY demRAT, EVER!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Boston Tea Party, 3/30/2014 8:29:34 AM     (No. 9790409)

Two points:

1)Bob Kerrey did not vote for Obamacare. He was not in the Senate at that time.

2) This interview took place in Kerrey´s New York office.

Let´s keep our facts straight.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 3/30/2014 8:30:17 AM     (No. 9790410)

Bob Kerry? THE Bob Kerry??? You mean he´s still alive? I had no clue!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 3/30/2014 8:30:46 AM     (No. 9790412)

Sorry for a second post but wanted to update #9. Bob Kerrey was not in the Senate any longer when Obamacare was passed. He retired in 2001. Ben Nelson was there and did vote for the ACA - it was known as the "corn husker kickback". Nelson retired in 2012 and Kerrey ran against Deb Fischer and lost to her.

Glad to see that the article is a Must Read - it wasn´t up yet when I logged on.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 3/30/2014 8:39:28 AM     (No. 9790423)

I seem to recall Leon Trotsky criticized Stalin in a similar manner, and it didn´t end so well for him. Watch out for ice picks Mr. Kerrey!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 3/30/2014 8:39:36 AM     (No. 9790424)

What a delicious little breakfast pastry that was. Wish I could read it afresh with my coffee. In addition to his awards and honors AND his backbone, he gives a good interview.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Spyder, 3/30/2014 8:40:04 AM     (No. 9790425)

Palin / Kerrey 2016 .... just sayin´

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Freeloader, 3/30/2014 8:57:41 AM     (No. 9790434)

The Bamster is a "delusional liar"?...Has Mr. Kerrey, at the ripe old age of seventy, finally had a "Saul On The Road To Damascus" experience? Stay tuned. Don´t touch that dial!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: miceal, 3/30/2014 9:05:01 AM     (No. 9790441)

Sorry, but from what I can tell Bob Kerrey is STILL A RAT. NEVER trust a Rat.....

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Reply 27 - Posted by: lonestarm3, 3/30/2014 9:14:10 AM     (No. 9790445)

The MSM outlets are collectively (pun intended) like the Dutch boy in the fable. Standing with their fingers in the holes in the dike while the dike itself is dissolving before the flood of truth trying to seep through.

It is good that the delusional liar reality is catching on, but the truth is that the label is equally applicable to virtually every single elected democrat in Washington.

"You lie and I´ll swear to it" is the secret code phrase clearly understood by political hacks from Harry Reid on down and by the lickspittle MSM that comprise the DNC propaganda machine.

Democrats like Bob Kerrey may try to expiate the shame of their complicity with progressivism but we are about as likely to read about in the MSM as we are to read any facts about Fast & Furious or Bengazi.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: MargaretM., 3/30/2014 9:14:13 AM     (No. 9790446)

Where was Kerrey in 2008, or even more important, 2012? So what if he says what most Americans know now? When he might have helped the country, he was silent.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: nightvision, 3/30/2014 9:16:13 AM     (No. 9790449)

"Mr. President...you won this election because you sucked less than Romney."

BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAA!
That´s gonna leave a mark.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: paral04, 3/30/2014 9:27:27 AM     (No. 9790454)

There is nothing delusional about Obama´s lies. They are well thought and scripted.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: OhMy, 3/30/2014 9:36:44 AM     (No. 9790462)

I liked the part about the bell curve. It is refreshing to get a democrat to make a small nod toward reality! Where his acceptance of reality breaks down is in his belief in always raising taxes to expand social programs. There has to be a limit on this solution or it will be used till you kill the goose that laid the golden egg - as anyone could have learned in the children´s fable by Aesop. What I would suggest if the nation ever manages to save itself from this present disaster is a strict prohibition on any program funded by any federal revenue that redistributes wealth or pays any expenses for individuals or corporations either. This would not end all welfare but only push it back to the states where it belongs. If one state is irresponsible it goes broke but at least there is somewhere for the citizens to flee in that case - and hopefully wise up the next time! The federal government would be an institution that provides a foundation to protect all others from themselves!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 3/30/2014 9:50:01 AM     (No. 9790480)

Don´t get too enthused with Kerry No. 24. He has many good qualities but even though he saw things clearly when he was in office, he never failed to vote with his fellow Democrats.

If I remember correctly, it was Kerry who , when asked why he was retiring, answered "because I´m tired of having to be a fool" or words to that effect.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: MissMolly, 3/30/2014 9:55:43 AM     (No. 9790483)

I´m pretty sure #24 was being facetious.

Also, Bob Kerrey had a fling with Linda Ronstadt. That´s fairly disqualifying, too.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 3/30/2014 10:00:49 AM     (No. 9790493)

bob kerrey is an elitist hypocrite democrat. Thus, there must be a selfish motive behind this harsh denouncement of obama. Perhaps he has his eye on another run for public office. After all, like ben nelson, he benefits from a media driven reputation as a centrist. What´s more, in his recent race for US Senate, kerrey was endorsed by rinos rudman, simpson and hagel. Maybe he seeks a plum job in the piaps administration?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: StuartL, 3/30/2014 10:03:59 AM     (No. 9790495)

Ice axes, #22. Not quite the same thing at all ... :-)

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Arby, 3/30/2014 10:11:06 AM     (No. 9790502)

The news is that when you speak the palpable, undeniable truth you will be shunned. Nothing that Kerrey says is earth-shaking; it´s all pretty obvious.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: kate318, 3/30/2014 10:16:39 AM     (No. 9790509)

And, Debra Winger, #33. In fact, some have questioned whether the baby that she had shortly after she broke up with Kerry, and suddenly married Timothy Hutton, was really Bob Kerry´s child. Don´t be fooled, guys. Bob Kerry can lie with the best of them. If he has dissed Obama, there is a reason for it; usually political. Please God, don´t let it be to try to run for office in Nebraska again. We have some terrific Tea Party candidates running. We don´t want him.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: msliberty1937, 3/30/2014 10:29:33 AM     (No. 9790527)

Most of us here are willing to cut our L.com posters a lot of slack when it comes to basic spelling/grammatical/typo/etc. errors, BUT we do need to be as accurate as possible with names/relationships/facts/etc. Kerry and KerrEy are not interchangeable for reasons we all know too well. And it was Debra Winger with whom Bob KerrEy was involved. And it was Jerry ´Moonbeam´ Brown who was involved with Linda Ronstadt.

Maybe I´m too picky about details like this but to be taken seriously in our posts, we have to take a minute to check our facts.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: fed-up, 3/30/2014 10:30:27 AM     (No. 9790531)

I agree with some above that say, who cares what he says NOW. There are gonna be all sorts Dems out of office to spout off against Precious and his minions.

I want to see current dems coming out in public saying these things. But, its not gonna happen. What they will do, is hide and hope no one notices them until its over.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 3/30/2014 10:34:17 AM     (No. 9790538)

Unlike that other Kerry, Bob Kerrey´s Purple Heart is real.....

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Reply 41 - Posted by: dukester, 3/30/2014 10:37:28 AM     (No. 9790541)

Before you start slobbering too much over this clown, remember that he is the same hack on the 9/11 Commission who tried to blame the attack entirely on Republicans and who recently ran for US Senator in Nebraska as a carpet-bagging NYer and assured everyone that, win or lose, he was moving permanently to the state. He hasn´t been back since he lost. He certainly knows what lying is all about.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: msliberty1937, 3/30/2014 10:38:56 AM     (No. 9790543)

whoooops...hope someone corrects my earlier factual error and calls me on it. Bob Kerrey did indeed date Ms. Ronstadt.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: MissMolly, 3/30/2014 10:40:43 AM     (No. 9790544)

#38, it is well-known and documented that Bob Kerrey dated both Debra Winger and Linda Ronstadt.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: dlb703, 3/30/2014 10:56:03 AM     (No. 9790556)

Nearly two decades ago the same Bob Kerrey called Bill Clinton an "unusually good liar." Nobody listened then, either.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 3/30/2014 10:59:25 AM     (No. 9790563)

I have no interest in what some bozo communist democrat has to say about anyone or any subject.
Kerrey by just being in that left wing cabal shows me what he stands for. Whatever he did while in office probably caused harm to this nation. Democrats are stupid and I´ll just call him ´a special kind of stupid´. Don´t fall for this clowns criticism of Obama. Read the post from the people of Nebraska.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/30/2014 11:09:55 AM     (No. 9790580)

Snooze ..

"If the truth falls on the media and they don´t report it, did it happen?"

Wake me when they announce Obama and the DNC are being arrested.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: nevernaught, 3/30/2014 11:17:20 AM     (No. 9790590)

#33 are you sure that Kerrey had an affair with Linda Ronstadt. When Jerry Brown was governor of California the first time, the news media were trying to sell the idea that he was having an affair with her. He appeared so Gay, that it was hard to believe at that time.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 3/30/2014 11:26:19 AM     (No. 9790598)

What is really important here is the debt of gratitude we owe to the UK press for bringing this to our attention. [Attercliffe and JoniTx, you let us down on this one; you should have gotten this 28 March David Martosko article to us sooner. I jest, of course; there is darn little in the UK press which escapes your respective seines.]

Seriously though, with the liberated on-shore media such as Breitbart, combined with the refreshing UK media (e.g., Daily Mail) and the tenacious James Delingpole, we are breaking the hegemony of the US media, most of whom are Democrat/"Progressive" house organs. We´ve even had a few good articles from Pravda (theirs, not ours),

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Reply 49 - Posted by: bighambone, 3/30/2014 11:39:51 AM     (No. 9790617)

After reading this article you can see that the time has come for the Democrats who want to remain in power after the November election to start jettisoning Obama and his failing policies, and to move on to start supporting a New Democrat candidate who the party will put up for President after the 2014 election.

The rap should still be on those Democrats who voted for Obamacare and who are now seeking re-election, and no doubt they will attempt to escape voter scrutiny for that by pushing the old Democrat mend it don´t end it mantra as far as the Obamacare dibicle is concerned.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: peterfleming, 3/30/2014 11:51:50 AM     (No. 9790630)

The Prediction is coming true ..........
2014 is the year of more insiders blurting out the truth!
Former SEAL, doom senator Kerry finally says it !
Good for him!

Jackie Mason, longtime top favorite comedian,
ALWAYS TRUTHFUL, calls Obama a looney,
If he were a civilian, he´ d be locked up in a sanitarium !
Click on fabulous UK Daily Mail photos and priceless
Jackie Mason quotes. It is a real winner for a Sunday
Of enjoyable reading !
All of our State sanitized, horse blindered comedians
(Letterman is the best socialist brainwashing example) could learn from Mason´s long running successful talent

Mason, Kerry, Gates, Atkisson, yes, Snowden, are just the beginning of a torrent of whistleblowing truth tellers who are breaking through the Communist Iron Curtain
of PelleyCBS news censorship.
The UK Daily Mail, a growing mass of strong people in the internet, are freeing us from tyranny ........ And with a little help from our few friends in talk radio and FoxTVNews, we will take back America !

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Reply 51 - Posted by: kono, 3/30/2014 12:04:19 PM     (No. 9790642)

Is it too much to ask for us to keep straight the distinction between Bob Kerrey and John Kerry? Way too many remarks here (and especially with the NewsBusters article) appear confused about there being two people and which is which.

Bob Kerrey earned his Purple Heart and has had a number of honorable and respectable roles in government, unlike John Kerry, whose entire resume is sufficiently slimy to require a shower after one reads it. To be fair, though, Bob Kerrey promoted Al Franken´s election to the Senate. That pretty much nullifies all the good he´s done, in my book.

#24 cracked me up, as Bob Kerrey´s wife is named Sarah Paley...

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Reply 52 - Posted by: fire_mission, 3/30/2014 12:12:15 PM     (No. 9790652)

Kerrey is a hardcore Leftist...could care less about his past or what he says. He is part of America´s problem and not even close to knowing what to do about it. He is a statist and an ignoramus when it comes to business and economics.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: rochow, 3/30/2014 12:18:27 PM     (No. 9790662)

Never could stand Kerrey, but my hat is off to this man~! Wished that Boehner had his spine!

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Drive, 3/30/2014 12:45:30 PM     (No. 9790693)

Google Bob Kerrey and Linda Ronstadt. She was a busy girl.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: absalom, 3/30/2014 2:02:18 PM     (No. 9790768)

That the Kerrey, Winger, Ronstadt fandango measures Kerrey for many, rather than the Congressional Medal of Honor he won for conspicuous gallantry and valor as a Navy Seal at Nha Trang in ´69, shouts volumes!

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 3/30/2014 2:11:16 PM     (No. 9790775)

"Sen. Kerrey voted for Obamacare so he´s part of the problem. It sounds like he´s running for reelection so he´s running away from Obamacare. Is he up for election soon? "

#9: Kerrey was not in the Senate when 0bamacare was voted on. He left office in 2001.

He tried to return to office in 2012, but lost.


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Reply 57 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 3/30/2014 3:24:11 PM     (No. 9790825)

Thank you for the post,#12. If ever there was a Democrat Senator named Kerr(e)y, who deserved to brag about service in Vietnam Bob Kerrey does, but Bob Kerrey never had to brag and remind people of his service. His service does all the talking.

I haven´t always agreed with Bob Kerrey, but there are parts of what he says here that I agree with very strongly.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: stjohnswood, 3/30/2014 3:30:36 PM     (No. 9790831)

Someone in oh, one of the previous five or so posts, is sadly transparent. And not fooling very many, if any at all.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: Ida lil, 3/30/2014 3:44:16 PM     (No. 9790843)

This thread shows that mind blowing hatred can produce conservative LoFlos too.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: absalom, 3/30/2014 4:08:51 PM     (No. 9790872)

#59. Indeed Ida. Which define a man´s character? His actions under fire or the gossip, hearsay, innuendo and rumor that surrounds him???

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Reply 61 - Posted by: david kahane, 3/30/2014 4:56:11 PM     (No. 9790911)

Still looking for the phrase, "delusional liar," in the Kerrey quotes provided. Come on, people...

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Reply 62 - Posted by: Safari Man, 3/30/2014 8:17:03 PM     (No. 9791116)

Until he changes parties and works to defeat them more than any other republican (which wouldn´t be too hard), he´s a Dimocrat and cannot be trusted. He may "tell the truth", but he still part of the problem and his "truth" is part of a strategy to gain power for himself and take away momentum from the opposition.


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Reply 63 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/31/2014 8:38:36 AM     (No. 9791515)

Kerrey doesn´t get it. The Democrat party of today are all myopic in their quest for the "Nordic Model". All they can see at the end of the tunnel is a Democratic Welfare State. Dam* the torpedoes, full speed ahead. It´s not just Dear Reader.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Me_Opinionated_Nah, 3/31/2014 9:52:55 AM     (No. 9791624)

This thread is conspicuously generating a whole boatload of activity, isn’t it? Delusional Democrat liars aren’t often exposed by fellow delusional Democrats. Anyone, Democrat or otherwise, who didn’t immediately or soon thereafter peg Obama for the fraud he showed himself to be from the very outset, was delusional him or herself. Going to the lengths Obama went, in order to conceal his entire past life, was a dead giveaway for anyone paying even a modicum of attention. So, after five years, Bob Kerrey finally speaks out. Big Whoop! Stop the presses? I don’t think so.

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Reply 65 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/31/2014 11:12:08 AM     (No. 9791708)

Earlier posters have pointed this out, but it seems some are still confusing Secretary of State John Kerry and former Senator Bob Kerrey.

SoS John Kerry is from Massachusetts and famously served in the Navy, including a four month tour in Vietnam during which he received three questionable Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. He came home to betray and demean the men with whom he had served. He also threw away someone else´s military medals under the pretense they were his own.

Former Senator Bob Kerrey was a Navy Seal, seriously wounded in Vietnam and awarded a Medal of Honor. He also received a Bronze Star for an action which received a great deal of criticism, involving civilian casualties.

This is from a July, 2001 article in Commentary Magazine: The story of Kerrey’s raid was first uncovered in 1998 by Gregory L. Vistica, then a reporter at Newsweek. But Newsweek declined to run Vistica’s scoop at a moment when it might have derailed Kerrey’s fledgling presidential candidacy, and the story lay gathering dust for over two years.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/bob-kerrey-war-criminal/

These are two different men with different backgrounds and even the surname is spelled differently. How can anyone get them confused? They are both Democrats, of course.

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Reply 66 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 3/31/2014 10:36:35 PM     (No. 9792520)

I remember horror stories during the Vietnam war and afterward. It was the first time I had heard of children being used to kill our servicemen. (Cowards hide behind women and children and use them to kill their enemies.) It was horrific to read or hear of an innocent little girl being strapped with a grenade and walking into a group of our men to kill herself and the men. One can only imagine having to deal with that situation first hand. (I´ve heard heartbreaking stories of many who couldn´t cope with the guilt of having killed women and/or children to save their own lives and those of their fellow servicemen. They turned to alcohol, drugs, etc., and even suicide.) The enemy wasn´t always dressed in uniform and women and children could be as deadly to our men as any combatant that was in uniform. That doesn´t excuse killing civilians for no reason, but it provides understanding about the difficulty of decisions that had to be made to protect servicemen. The expression "war is hell" was coined for a reason.

Add to all of the above the fact that the anti-America, leftist, anti-war movement was
doing everything that it could to present all of our troops as "baby-killers". How ironic is that? The left calling someone else baby-killers. If anything, the left was more virulent then than now. They were mounting a war then to achieve the control they have now.

Bob Kerrey may be as much of a leftist as John Kerry in his own way. I certainly don´t support that any more than I support slaughter of innocents. But, #65´s good post reminded me of stories I read and heard back in the day. I hope someone with far more knowledge than my observations will comment.

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