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Ukraine unsettled, uneasy as peace
deal sinks in; President leaves town

CNN, by Phil Black*

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/22/2014 4:48:30 AM

Kiev, Ukraine -- In Ukraine, neither protesters, opposition politicians nor embattled President Viktor Yanukovych had what they wanted Saturday after a week of bloodshed. Enthusiasm was muted for the peace deal brokered among them a day before by the foreign ministers of Poland, Germany and France. Hours before they signed the deal, Poland´s Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski warned them not to expect perfection. "All sides need to remember that compromise means getting less than 100%," he said in a message on Twitter. If he upholds his end of the deal, Yanukovych will lose many of his powers soon -- and his office completely --

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Reply 1 - Posted by: pineledger, 2/22/2014 6:52:21 AM     (No. 9741995)

Anybody else feel like this is a deja vu Arab Spring?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: TNVolunteer, 2/22/2014 7:12:29 AM     (No. 9742006)

I expect the Ukraine to break up with the Russians putting up a puppet government in the eastern part. This is a real dangerous situation.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: provide, 2/22/2014 7:30:09 AM     (No. 9742024)

Putin is waiting for the end of the Olympics to make his move.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: FunOne, 2/22/2014 7:49:52 AM     (No. 9742043)

Correct, #3. And he will respond with a vengeance for having this embarrassment damage the image he desired to promote via host of the Olympics.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: rustycfc, 2/22/2014 8:45:21 AM     (No. 9742110)

putin will get his way for awhile, but the people of Russia will rise up like they did
in Ukraine.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Nan, 2/22/2014 8:47:09 AM     (No. 9742113)

Praying for the Ukraine and it´s people.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: rustycfc, 2/22/2014 8:49:42 AM     (No. 9742118)

putin will get his way for awhile, but the people of Russia will rise up like they did in Ukraine.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 2/22/2014 9:04:29 AM     (No. 9742137)

We´re seeing what ´freedom´ really means to these people. At a very high cost, they´ve made their point……."Not so fast, Mr. Putin! We´re not going back - no more USSR mentality." God bless them.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/22/2014 9:14:12 AM     (No. 9742152)

This morning´s Wall Street Journal considers the agreement a huge win for the protesters and a major kick to the Russians.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JAN, 2/22/2014 10:03:27 AM     (No. 9742204)

Oh, you don´t like the election results.

Burn down the square, throw Molotov cocktails at the police attempting to keep order and protect the government buildings.

This was O´s plan, he encouraged and enabled this insurrection.

Anyone thinking this is a good thing, best think again.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: nevernaught, 2/22/2014 10:59:01 AM     (No. 9742261)

Every time I get mad at the Russians, I watch this video and it cheers me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXd3wX_USc

At this point in History the Russian people aren´t too much different the we are and Putin isn´t Stalin. In todays world he has to watch what he does. I´m with #3 on this. During the Olympics he won´t take too harsh a stance on the Ukraine situation until all foreigners have gone home.

On the other side, I´m sure all this happened now because the Olympics were being held at this time. I hope this is settled peacefully. Obama should just shut his Muslim mouth. He isn´t helping and Putin isn´t the least bit afraid of him or the incompetents he appoints as secretary of State.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: planetgeo, 2/22/2014 11:00:27 AM     (No. 9742262)

There´s a lot more to the problem here than is being discussed in the Western press. And it´s not something that will go away with any artificial truce. And I have firsthand knowledge of the situation. Namely, that Ukraine, like many of the former USSR republics has been loaded with native Russians who were brought in as government bureaucrats and military, then stayed behind after the USSR dissolved.

These imported Russians raised families, married with the locals, and all the while they retained their culture, language, and allegiance to Mother Russia. This is particularly true in the eastern part of Ukraine, where (surprise) Yanukovych fled. And in some of the former republics, the percentage of such native Russians is very significant.

So when is a "free democratic election" not so much free or democratic?...when the electorate has been loaded up with imported non-native people.

Oh, wait...that sounds like California...and soon (after amnesty), the United States.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 2/22/2014 11:12:29 AM     (No. 9742279)

Yeah, and Obama "urges restraint." What a laugh! It has as much effect as "we, the people" urging restraint on his golf, his vacations, his celebrity appearances, his let-them-eat-cake W.H. parties, etc. I urge "NO restraint" on our prayers for the Ukranians. They need them more than they need our military (or presidential fence-sitting) support.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: RealityChick, 2/22/2014 12:13:55 PM     (No. 9742365)

My grandparents (both sets) came to the U.S. to escape persecution and the other evils of communism. I came to see Ukrainian´s as very nationalistic, religious and proud of their distinct culture. They came to love the U.S. and its freedoms and were proud to become U.S. citizens. They worked in factories, coal mines and even served in the U.S. Army in WWII. They made sure their kids learned English and stressed the importance of education. Their children became productive, patriotic members of American society - engineers, chemists, nurses - as did the next generation. God bless Ukraine and its people!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: SouthTxRat, 2/22/2014 1:24:43 PM     (No. 9742459)

Now that the opposition is in semi-control it is time to arm the entire citizenry. This will make for a much more polite and reasonable government. It will also help dissuade The Bear from "helping out in this difficult transition".

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Reply 16 - Posted by: RealityChick, 2/22/2014 1:36:01 PM     (No. 9742468)

Right on #15! And may this become a "teachable moment" for lofo, simple-minded gun control advocates.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MirJoy, 2/22/2014 1:47:23 PM     (No. 9742485)

Whose President left town? Ours or theirs? Actually, I know it is the President of the Ukraine, but it could be ours as well.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dvc, 2/23/2014 1:28:13 AM     (No. 9742928)

I have business in Ukraine in several different cities, have traveled there extensively in the last 10 yrs, and have learned some relavent history of Ukraine.

Stalin decided to wipe out the middle class farmers of eastern Ukraine, called the kulaks. After deporting, killing and starving millions in an intentionally created famine, these Ukrainians were largely replaced by ethnic Russians.

When the Soviet Union fell, Russia offered Russian passports to any Ukrainian that asked for one, so many ethnic Russians who are Ukrainian citizens hold Russian passports.

I fear that Putin will use this to invade Ukraine and "save" these poor Russians from the chaos of evil Ukriane.

Pray for Ukriane.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: dvc, 2/23/2014 1:30:49 AM     (No. 9742929)

Sorry for double post, but the idea posted above that the citizens need to be arming now is a very good one. If enough military rifles are put into the hands of the average Ukrainians, they might stave off Russian conquest.

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