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VW workers in Tennessee stun UAW,
reject union by 712-626 margin

Detroit Free Press, by Brent Snavely

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Posted By:cThree, 2/14/2014 11:06:30 PM

CHATTANOOGA, TENN. — The UAW suffered a devastating defeat at Volkswagen’s plant here as workers rejected union representation by a 712-626 margin.The defeat, which came despite Volkswagen’s neutrality, tarnishes UAW President Bob King’s legacy and could make it next to impossible for the union to extend its reach beyond domestic automakers.
“While we certainly would have liked a victory for workers here, we deeply respect the Volkswagen Global Group Works Council, Volkswagen management and (German union) IG Metall for doing their best to create a free and open atmosphere for workers to exercise their basic human right to form a union,” King said in a statement.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bridgepard, 2/14/2014 11:09:33 PM     (No. 9733151)

I´m stunned it was that close. 626 sheep.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: cThree, 2/14/2014 11:11:57 PM     (No. 9733154)

Three accounts of this election result that I´ve read all use the word "devastating," which is how the UAW itself described it.

The result strikes me as a bit close for the UAW to be throwing in the towel. Fact is the tightness of the numbers is very disturbing.



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Reply 3 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 2/14/2014 11:17:42 PM     (No. 9733161)

Don´t forget - - Volkswagen wanted the union, because the German unions were pressuring them. There was no anti-union campaign allowed.

It´s a great victory for common sense, as the UAW always makes jobs disappear.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: cThree, 2/14/2014 11:22:49 PM     (No. 9733165)

The UAW blamed "outside influence" for the failure. I guess the UAW boys don´t have an irony bone anywhere. The article quotes one no-voter saying of the UAW, “I just didn’t feel like we needed an outside group coming in to represent us,”

The report also notes:

Even President Barack Obama weighed in Friday, taking aim at Tennessee Republican leaders, including U.S. Sen. Bob Corker and Gov. Bill Haslam, who he said “are more concerned about German shareholders than American workers.”

I wouldn´t be surprised if the king and his buds don´t try to overturn this.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 2/14/2014 11:39:39 PM     (No. 9733174)

The unions with their demands are the reason why there are no more manufacturing jobs in the U.S. Their time have passed.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 2/15/2014 4:43:42 AM     (No. 9733250)

LOL@"Detroit: brought to you by the UAW"

Since when is it a basic human right to have your paycheck honed in on by some gangsters from Detroit?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: geo11, 2/15/2014 4:57:13 AM     (No. 9733251)

I was in the SEIU for a number of years. They took a lot of union dues and spent 10´s of millions on Obama and the DNC. It was very difficult to get rid of the lazy staff and others had to carry them. The union leaders all make great salaries and fight to keep their gravy train running. Union dues were said to be voluntarily contributed to a political party. I never agreed to spend my contribution to the Democrat party, yet they did so anyway.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: edgar, 2/15/2014 7:05:13 AM     (No. 9733300)

I am sure one of two things will happen next:
1. NLRB will step in and "fix" it for the UAW.
2. POTUS executive order will create a union at this plant.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Malia2012, 2/15/2014 7:13:08 AM     (No. 9733304)

Nice Try ´uaw" but VW workers in Tennessee,or at least most of them REJECTED being turned into dues-paying-props of thugs and leftists. And THIS result after THREE days of "voting"and arm-twisting! IMO, the numbers don´t matter as much as the fact the union LOST and the employees WON! Yay!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: peterfleming, 2/15/2014 7:32:45 AM     (No. 9733320)

GREAT when good things happen !
Union dominated radio and TV news actors wIll not be allowed to present this good anti communist news, so consider viraling this around for happy weekend reading

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 2/15/2014 7:46:38 AM     (No. 9733334)

Let´s not forget that just recently a small (less than 50, I think) group of workers at Amazon had the same chance to choose becoming unionized which was supposed to open the entire company to becoming union workers. There was much anticipation until said workers voted no as well. Suddenly that story died.
The vote at VW was 53% to 47%. That would be a landslide if the outcome were reversed. Wonder how much press it will get.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Janjan, 2/15/2014 7:53:09 AM     (No. 9733339)

Obama´s comments about Republicans being ´more conerned about German shareholders than American workers´ shows proof of his complete ignorance of even very simple economic principals. Unions, with their demands for high wages for low skilled or unskilled workers along with their socialistic system of protecting job security by seniority rather than by merit have made it undesirable to do business in the US. Nothing is stopping these Corporations from lockimg the doors and moving offshore and they are doing it every day. The ´American worker´ ends up unemployed, wondering what happened to his ´representation´ .

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 2/15/2014 7:55:01 AM     (No. 9733342)

I can see it now....the 712 will now be identified and forced to buy Obiecare as punishment and the 626 sheep keep their union exemption and continue living as the fat and happy ones.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: TNVolunteer, 2/15/2014 8:07:14 AM     (No. 9733363)

Great news! I am proud of my fellow Volunteers!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: paperpuncher, 2/15/2014 8:08:34 AM     (No. 9733366)

VW is a great employer. They pay good wages, provide great benefits and treat their employees exceptionally well. It is good that enough of the employees know they have a good deal and don´t want to pay money out of their wages to a bunch of crooks from Detroit.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 2/15/2014 8:11:21 AM     (No. 9733369)

This is a disaster for the unions. Unopposed by VW, they still lost. That means that the average guy in the street no longer believes that unions are beneficial for him.

In states where they have stopped collecting mandatory dues for the unions, large numbers of people have decided to stop paying the dues and other groups have decided to vote unions out.

Part of it is that unions have lost some of their clout. Thuggish behavior is no longer tolerated (for the most pat). But the other part is the unions becoming an arm of the DNC. A lot of members just don´t like it and don´t like their dues money being used for that purpose. Companies have gotten smarter about how they negate union power, sometimes by packing up and going out of country. The unions might win short term gains but before long the jobs are gone for good. In a lot of towns, the union shop is the major employer. Loss of that shop destroys the town and any chance of good jobs.

People are starting to understand the cost of unions.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Hermoine, 2/15/2014 8:14:05 AM     (No. 9733372)

So proud to say that my cousin, Mike Burton, was one the guys who led the effort to DEFEAT the UAW!!! This is the second time they´ve beat them in Chattanooga!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Grambo, 2/15/2014 8:20:14 AM     (No. 9733379)

This is the death knell for the UAW.

Watch for Holder, the IRS, Osha and the NLRB to weigh in on these poor VW employee ingrates.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: E Unum Pluribus, 2/15/2014 8:20:22 AM     (No. 9733380)

I´m not sure why the union has accepted defeat. An 86-vote margin means that victory is only two recounts away.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 2/15/2014 8:23:49 AM     (No. 9733384)

Shame on the 626. They are a damning indictment of the educational system, since these people obviously have never studied the history of the Rust Belt and Detroit in particular.

They couldn´t see past the chance to be lazy, hide behind union bosses when they misbehaved and get pay raises via threats rather than earning them.

Unfortunately it also provides some insight into who might be propping up Obama´s ratings.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 2/15/2014 8:24:04 AM     (No. 9733385)

Obama said Corker and other were more concerned for German shareholders than American Workers? Really? Obama is more concerned for Muslims, and crony capitalists than American people. Besides, if VW wants $50 an hour janitors, they must figure they´re worth it, rather than having some UAW thug tell VW. that janitors "must" be paid $50 an hour.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Laurie, 2/15/2014 8:30:56 AM     (No. 9733390)

I love my 2012 VW Passat TDI (diesel) built in Tennessee. Now I´m even prouder to own it. Thank goodness the tide is finally turning. I´ll keep praying that little by little, common sense and conservatism regain the ground we´ve lost to the corrupt Marxism that is taking over the great United States of America.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hermoine, 2/15/2014 8:36:58 AM     (No. 9733400)

BTW, here´s the local article that talks more about Mike´s involvement and the plant workers who organized against the UAW:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/feb/15/vw-chattanooga-spurns-uaw-or-vw-workers-say-no-to/

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Reply 24 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/15/2014 8:38:18 AM     (No. 9733405)

This saved a lot of jobs for Tennessee because had the union won, VW would have been selling a lot less VW´s in America, as many people will not buy from union shops. There would no longer be any unions if the democcrats had not allowed them into the public sector, where they have corrupted public service, been a disaster, and need to be purged.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: rustycfc, 2/15/2014 8:38:59 AM     (No. 9733406)

maybe we will see more labels made in the usa- instead made in china.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 2/15/2014 9:08:06 AM     (No. 9733445)

It´s still frightening that the vote was only 53%-47% against.

The pervasiveness of outright stupidity in today´s USA is truly alarming. The commies have taken over the education system and the media - - and things will continue to get worse and worse.

Pray for a miracle.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 2/15/2014 9:47:28 AM     (No. 9733494)

The dirty little secret is unions are not very helpful to the rank and file. The company can still do whatever it wants. The union frequently does not do what the rank and file wants too.

The unions run to their government cronies for support, and their media allies start running stories how mean big business is.

Look for the Obama gang to institute pro union regulations. Maybe Obama will issue some pro union executive edicts as well.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: owl, 2/15/2014 9:58:58 AM     (No. 9733521)

Detroit, now the crumbling city on the hill, looms off in the distance as a great reminder of what unions can do to a business. Chatanooga should use binoculars.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: starboard, 2/15/2014 9:59:01 AM     (No. 9733522)

Unions are nothing more than a smaller version of a Marxist communist government.
The movie "On the Waterfront" is a classic portrayal of dictatorial unions vs the people.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bmw50, 2/15/2014 10:05:40 AM     (No. 9733539)

Ive got this theory that you can divide labor in half; into two groups, those that excel in doing their job and the other half that don´t.
Those that excel don´t need the union because their supervisors and management know they are good workers and need only minimum supervision. They are independent employees who trust in their own abilities to get ahead, to get the better job or get advancement. Everyone else is doing less than average and recognize that if they are going to keep their jobs, get a raise or advance, they will need collective bargaining to do it.
So when unions go into a factory and try to unionize it, they know that about half the people will vote for it and half won´t. It becomes a matter of winning just a few more that half to get in. So it boils down to what percentage of workers think they are above average and what thing they are not.
For this reason, I am not surprised at the close vote.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Deedo, 2/15/2014 10:14:15 AM     (No. 9733558)

It can be argued that the UAW´s "victories" in the 1970s were the start of the unraveling of the US manufacturing base. It was the high cost of labor that made US autos inferior to foreign imports.

Detroit died because of the unions and Democrat leadership. Now many states teeter toward following Detroit. Thank you unions.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 2/15/2014 10:18:13 AM     (No. 9733568)

The vote was not 53% to 47% (or whatever the math) there were over 100 employees who did not vote at all, from another article the percentage of employees voting for the union was only 41%.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Salt5792, 2/15/2014 10:57:08 AM     (No. 9733641)

Unions have had their day and they are no longer useful (if they ever were).

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Bohallx, 2/15/2014 11:04:41 AM     (No. 9733653)

My theory is very simple ~ unions die when companies run out of employees.

Then, too, as more mechanization, automation, computerization, robotics and improved work methods move into an industrial activity, productivity climbs and fewer employees are needed.

Not long ago ~ in living memory of some Ldotters in fact ~ companies like GM had hundreds of thousands of employees.

Now they don´t.

The left has been slow to realize this. Consequently their largest cohort is now among unskilled labor or school teachers. Not exactly the group to tap into America´s opinion leaders, or stored up wealth.

Management has also been slow to figure this part out and many of them imagine their subordinate´s jobs were shipped abroad ~

No, when a job disappears into a magnetic field on a microcomputer, it didn´t go abroad. It´s just gone.



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Reply 35 - Posted by: Butch59, 2/15/2014 11:06:54 AM     (No. 9733659)

I´m waiting for the union types to suddenly "find" a "misplaced" ballot that just happens to contain enough pro union votes to have the VW plant unionized. And if the vote is just a ONE vote, the union will declare the vote over and they won. End of message.

Every since the 1960 presidental election, this is the way Dims have operated. And they have got it down to a science now. Think of the Washington governor race, the Minnesota senate race. It happens with alarming frequency and no one seem to call them out on it. It´s sickening.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 2/15/2014 11:33:36 AM     (No. 9733688)

Remember VW employees, it´s a lot easier to vote the union in then it is to vote them out. Once they get a foothold, you´re stuck.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: CEP, 2/15/2014 11:39:03 AM     (No. 9733698)

Unions do nothing for workers, they are just fronts for the democrat party and loud mouths who enjoy living the good life on the union dues of the hard working people. Throw a bone to workers every now and then but really put in the effort for the democrat politicians.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: ocho reales, 2/15/2014 12:16:07 PM     (No. 9733748)

How puzzling that in order to have a works council you must have a union first. This is U.S. law? If so it is a stupid law. If the company wants worker input they should be free to assemble a representative sampling of the work force and establish an advisory group. Since when does that act require union membership? Secondly the 2nd paragraph uses the term "Volkswagen´s neutrality". There was no neutrality. Volkswagen wanted the union. This union defeat is a victory for American labor and the free enterprise system.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Tallgrass Palms, 2/15/2014 1:46:15 PM     (No. 9733866)

Wow! Congratulations to Southern Workers! The South has risen again.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Winmag, 2/15/2014 2:04:06 PM     (No. 9733887)

Wonder how much those goonion leaders make and who pays their salaries. How about some income equality between goonion workers and goonion leaderss

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Kansas Conservative, 2/15/2014 3:15:45 PM     (No. 9733947)

I purchased a new Volkswagen in 2013. This was the first foreign car I ever purchased. I had purchased a Chrysler in 2007, but it was UAW junk. After the bailouts from Obama, I vowed never to buy a UAW car again. I am glad that the UAW goons aren´t involved with VW (yet). If they do, then I will be forced to find another non-UAW car manufacturer.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 2/15/2014 5:01:42 PM     (No. 9734027)

Re #40: The goonion leaders´ salaries are paid largely by anyone who buys a GM or Chrysler car or truck; the UAW owns a tidy chunk of their stock.


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Reply 43 - Posted by: Namma, 2/15/2014 7:27:54 PM     (No. 9734129)

FTA....we deeply respect Volkswagon Group Works Council.....hahahaha. Sure...can´t use words like union and respect in the same sentance let alone the same article!

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Reply 44 - Posted by: RedLegLeader68, 2/15/2014 9:44:02 PM     (No. 9734223)

What a great outcome. But, you know what worries me? Let´s listen the esteemed Chattanooga mayor, as reported in the "Free Press" article noted in our comments above.

“Now that their decision is made, let’s focus on what matters most to our community — bringing more living wage, middle class jobs to Chattanooga,” he [Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke] said.

"...living wage..." Andy? What kinda appa-crappa is THAT??


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CHATTANOOGA, TENN. — The UAW suffered a devastating defeat at Volkswagen’s plant here as workers rejected union representation by a 712-626 margin.The defeat, which came despite Volkswagen’s neutrality, tarnishes UAW President Bob King’s legacy and could make it next to impossible for the union to extend its reach beyond domestic automakers.
“While we certainly would have liked a victory for workers here, we deeply respect the Volkswagen Global Group Works Council, Volkswagen management and (German union) IG Metall for doing their best to create a free and open atmosphere for workers to exercise their basic human right to form a union,” King said in a statement.

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to get attention

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 9:28:24 PM     Post Reply
Prominent Washington correspondents are accusing President Obama and his aides of knowingly stretching the truth on issues like the so-called women´s pay gap just to create controversy and keep issues -- and the president -- relevant. Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus kicked off the attack last week when she blasted as “demagoguery” the administration´s tactics during the pay gap debate. “The level of hyperbole -- actually, of demagoguery -- that Democrats have engaged in here is revolting,” she wrote. CBS White House Correspondent Major Garrett then weighed in this week in his National Journal

Clintons celebrate Chelsea’s
pregnancy announcement

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New York Post, by Stephanie Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:32:52 AM     Post Reply
The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

Harry Reid Doubles Down on Bundy
Ranch: ´If They´re Patriots, We´re
in Big Trouble´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 9:39:40 PM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday stood by his statement regarding embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, saying on KSNV’s What’s Your Point?, “If anyone thinks by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there last week was just people rallying to somebody that was oppressed, 600 people came in armed. They had practiced. They had maneuvered.” Reid continued, “They knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons. And they boasted about the fact that they put women and children, in fact one


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