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Could ancient earthquake
explain Shroud of Turin?

FoxNews/Live Science, by Megan Gannon

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Posted By:MissMolly, 2/13/2014 12:57:09 PM

The authenticity of the Shroud of Turin has been in question for centuries and scientific investigations over the last few decades have only seemed to muddle the debate. Is the revered cloth a miracle or an elaborate hoax? Now, a study claims neutron emissions from an ancient earthquake that rocked Jerusalem could have created the iconic image, as well as messed up the radiocarbon levels that later suggested the shroud was a medieval forgery. But other scientists say this newly proposed premise leaves some major questions unanswered. The Shroud of Turin, which bears a faint image of a man´s face and torso,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 2/13/2014 1:00:54 PM     (No. 9731015)

I read this yesterday, am inclined to put it in the way out there theory file.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 2/13/2014 1:01:29 PM     (No. 9731016)

To those who believe, no explanation is necessary. To those who don´t, none will suffice.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: revdeppisch316, 2/13/2014 1:01:38 PM     (No. 9731018)

Scientists need to spend more time reading the New testament and less time with their wacky theories and unproveable science regarding everything from evolution to the origins of the universe.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 2/13/2014 1:05:36 PM     (No. 9731024)

But doesn´t the science world live and die by carbon dating or or they changing that one too? Science isn´t a very accommodating god now is it?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: wsdiego, 2/13/2014 1:23:03 PM     (No. 9731058)

The Shroud of Turin is real! It is the face of Jesus! Two things about the Shroud are controversial! The face is square, Roman faces are square, Jewish faces are oval! The man in the shroud is bleeding, a dead man doesn´t not bleed! The man in the shroud is alive!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mitzi, 2/13/2014 1:25:10 PM     (No. 9731063)

Did you ever wonder how come scientists don´t spend any effort inquiring into the origin and/or authenticity of the black stone meteorite (Kaaba) that the Moslems worship?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mitzi, 2/13/2014 2:26:18 PM     (No. 9731134)

If you haven´t seen any of the recent research ... see Shroud dot com.



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Reply 8 - Posted by: MattMusson, 2/13/2014 2:59:06 PM     (No. 9731164)

It is much more likely that the edge piece used in carbon dating was rewoven during the middle ages.

Early depictions of the Shroud clearly show the edges much more frayed than now.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/13/2014 3:20:00 PM     (No. 9731188)

I´ve always wondered how the radio carbon dating seems to match the time of the fire in the church in which it was stored...where there is smoke there is carbon and where there is carbon the date of same is tainted...so it´s meaningless.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bubby, 2/13/2014 4:13:47 PM     (No. 9731274)

Mt:27:51" At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split." NIV

Mt:54 " When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that happened, they were ferrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"" NIV

Mt.28:2 "There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat upon it." NIV

There were earthquakes following the crucifixion which is convenient for skeptics to use. Perhaps the image was formed at the moment of the Resurrection rather than by an earthquake which is more plausible to me.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bubby, 2/13/2014 4:14:42 PM     (No. 9731279)

Mt:27:54 my apologies.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 2/13/2014 5:55:56 PM     (No. 9731444)

How can one meditate upon the Face in the shroud and doubt authenticity?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/13/2014 6:04:59 PM     (No. 9731456)

#12, skeptic that I am, I can and I do. The actual Shroud is no more authentic the the image of the Madonna in the Mexican tortilla or the face of Our Lord in the pattern on a turtle´s back. Symbolic, perhaps. The Shroud of Jesus, no.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chance_232, 2/13/2014 9:15:31 PM     (No. 9731633)

RE#12 Assume that the image is real and not a forgery, lets also assume that the image is that of Christ and no one of tens of thousands of other potential dead men from the past.

That means its a relic. A relic is not to be worshipped or held in reverence. One should not be "meditating" on religious icons. The shroud is a curiosity and a crutch for the faithful who have insufficient faith without it. A relic, real or not validates their beliefs.

The fact is that short of Christ himself declaring that the image is his, there is no possible way to prove or disprove the authenticity of the image. Time, treasure and prayer would be better spent elsewhere.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/13/2014 10:39:10 PM     (No. 9731741)

Has more money been spent to prove that it isn´t than prove that it is ?

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