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Four words in the ACA
could spell its doom

Washington Post, by George F. Will

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 1/29/2014 10:16:05 PM

Someone you probably are not familiar with has filed a suit you probably have not heard about concerning a four-word phrase you should know about. The suit could blow to smithereens something everyone has heard altogether too much about, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (hereafter, ACA). Scott Pruitt and some kindred spirits might accelerate the ACA’s collapse by blocking another of the Obama administration’s lawless uses of the Internal Revenue Service. Pruitt was elected Oklahoma’s attorney general by promising to defend states’ prerogatives against federal encroachment, and today he and some properly


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/29/2014 10:49:36 PM     (No. 9710995)

Here´s one that should cause it´s doom:
HIPAA. No one is protecting our privacy.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: TheMom, 1/29/2014 11:50:34 PM     (No. 9711047)

The resident has already shown that the provisions of this ´law´ mean nothing. He will simply wave his magic pen and expand the power of the IRS to take money from our bank accounts. It´s in the original bill that the IRS can do this ´in real time´.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: DaddyO, 1/30/2014 6:37:20 AM     (No. 9711154)

The law was supposed to originate in the house, not the senate as per the constitution, and the supremes refused to touch it. So Will´s thesis is unsupportable.

The constitution is whatever 5 guys in black robes say it is.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 1/30/2014 7:12:38 AM     (No. 9711182)

Maybe George didn´t hear Obama say I have a pen...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bpl40, 1/30/2014 7:23:20 AM     (No. 9711187)

Once again it wi. Come down to CJ Roberts. Although how the four liberal justices in their good conscience side with the IRS and call it a drafting error remains to be seen.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Arby, 1/30/2014 7:25:37 AM     (No. 9711188)

John Roberts might have the opportunity to have a do-over.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: nightvision, 1/30/2014 7:35:29 AM     (No. 9711198)

"Congress could not have meant to allow this..."

Say what?
They didn´t even READ the bill!
Who knows WHAT they could have meant?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/30/2014 7:46:33 AM     (No. 9711219)

The words are: ´...you can keep it.´

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Reply 9 - Posted by: rinohunter, 1/30/2014 7:47:56 AM     (No. 9711222)

Most pathetic of all are the twisted, simple-minded comments after the article - mostly comments that trash conservative governance. The people that subscribe, read and believe turds like WaPo, NYSlimes, MSNBC, etc., must be the same kind that follow around bottom feeders like Justin Beaver, Kayne West, Sean Pencilneck, Harry Buffalofante etc., etc..Losers from the get go, yet big mouths that the rest of us have to tolerate or even accommodate in our everyday life.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 1/30/2014 8:03:59 AM     (No. 9711237)

Is this a trick question? Peelousy said we had to pass it before we could read it. (So few in Congress can actually read!)

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Reply 11 - Posted by: snapper451, 1/30/2014 8:06:45 AM     (No. 9711240)

No one has yet noted that Pruitt will immediately be labeled a "racist" for this and full Allinsky mode will against him. He is correct, but it remains to be seen if the supremes will step up.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: John c, 1/30/2014 8:22:57 AM     (No. 9711260)

The four words that threaten disaster for the ACA say the subsidies shall be available to persons who purchase health insurance in an exchange “established by the state.” But 34 states have chosen not to establish exchanges.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: kono, 1/30/2014 8:34:05 AM     (No. 9711277)

Given the bizarre rationale Roberts gave for not striking down Obamacare, I´m not convinced the predictions of other unconstitutional provisions will be deemed unconstitutional by the court.

While Will´s points provide basis for some hope, it´s hardly certain that they´ll be enough to nuke the heinous legislation.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: kono, 1/30/2014 8:49:45 AM     (No. 9711303)

Afterthought to #13 -- And even if we do get Obamacare repealed now, quite a few employers dropped employee health benefits to comply with it. Who expects they will just step forward to reinstate those benefits? And who expects insurers to revert their policy provisions and rates to what they were before ACA was passed?

To use an analogy, the poison has already started the cascade of system failures. The patient may still be living; but she is already lost.

What I´m wondering is whether we´ll suffer an interim period with some mangled approximation of Hillarycare before the whole thing collapses.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: MattMusson, 1/30/2014 8:59:40 AM     (No. 9711321)

The Appellate Court Judge did something interesting in this case.

To appease his liberal friends he found For the IRS saying that they were following the law.

But... he found that those sueing Had Grounds To Sue.

9 our of 10 suits against ObamaCare have been dismissed because the Courts found that the claimant did not have Standing. This Judge demolished that arguement. So, now it is up to the SCOTUS.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: OhioPatriot, 1/30/2014 9:11:27 AM     (No. 9711343)

On Jan 15 a District Court Judge in DC issued his opinion in favor of the administration and that the Federally operated exchanges are eligible for subsidies too.

Unless the Supremes take up the issue, it´s another dead end, unfortunately but not surprisingly.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: CadillaqJaq, 1/30/2014 9:12:35 AM     (No. 9711347)

#15 posts: ´´9 our of 10 suits against ObamaCare have been dismissed because the Courts found that the claimant did not have Standing. This Judge demolished that argument. So, now it is up to the SCOTUS."

Standing, in order to be heard by SCOTUS, requires that Harm must be proven by the plaintiff, OR, that Harm is imminent.

Either way, the SCOTUS has always been reluctant to overturn legislation; but it has happened. In this case, they are asked to reverse themselves. LMAO!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Grampy, 1/30/2014 9:39:27 AM     (No. 9711413)

Shoulda, coulda, woulda, mighta, strongly worded letters, hearings, subpoenas... all meaningless without actions...is there no one who will actually do something that stops this tyranny?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: coyote, 1/30/2014 9:43:24 AM     (No. 9711420)

No matter what the court ruling is, the AFC will fail because it is financially unworkable.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/30/2014 9:46:29 AM     (No. 9711427)

Time for the supremes to take off their medieval robes, and act like real people by deftly reversing their communist decision enabling ObamaTaxFraud.
They must disrobe and Reverse !
Pruitt is one solid thinker who is not getting the headlines he deserves and George Will has the background to step up and become a leader of.America saving ideas!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/30/2014 10:02:41 AM     (No. 9711458)

Actually, the entire Supreme Court should be impeached. NONE of them read the bill, I guess their clerks read portions of it..parts that went along with their leanings. Without reading it, they could not render an informed verdict.
360 million Americans depended on the Supreme Court to preserve and protect the Constitution, AND the rights of Americans to be free. They failed, miserably.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: loveUSA, 1/30/2014 10:04:32 AM     (No. 9711462)

We need a miracle to stop ACA. Pray America!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/30/2014 10:42:41 AM     (No. 9711540)

Get real, folks. Whatever the leftists hold over Roberts´ head is still there.

He will do as he is told - - no matter how unconstitutional his decisions are.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/30/2014 10:58:31 AM     (No. 9711569)

What are the four words? Read the entire article, got a lot of polemics and bloviating by the Will, but never saw the four words spelled out.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/30/2014 12:02:22 PM     (No. 9711732)

This is the LAW of the land, right?

OK Judges, if you foul this one up we WILL impeach/convict you!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 1/30/2014 12:06:55 PM     (No. 9711742)

Once again the pundits raise the hopes of the foolish.

A: 0bama ignores any ruling that goes against him.

B: No one with the Constitutional authority to stop the Punk Dictator has the guts to do so.

C: Roberts loves his illegally adopted children more than he loves his honor and country, so the Supreme Court will never overturn any law that 0bama really cares about.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 1/30/2014 1:09:53 PM     (No. 9711871)

O Lord, may our enemies all into the traps they themselves have laid. Amen.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 1/30/2014 1:17:33 PM     (No. 9711885)

At #27, "all" should be "fall".

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Reply 29 - Posted by: JediJerry, 1/30/2014 1:35:29 PM     (No. 9711931)

The One has a pen and a phone. He´s got this.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: riabks, 1/30/2014 1:45:36 PM     (No. 9711961)

#26 - illegally adopted children?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: DaddyO, 1/30/2014 1:49:49 PM     (No. 9711972)

#30, the story is that Roberts adopted two children which would be overturned on a technicality if it were contested in court, so in exchange he sided with the admisistration on the ACA. Don´t believe it myself, but then again..

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Sheepfarmer, 1/30/2014 2:19:24 PM     (No. 9712029)

I am always so disturbed when I read comments in the WaPo. These people seem so far from me and everyone I know, and they twist everything.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 1/30/2014 2:42:03 PM     (No. 9712054)

#30 & 31
Yep, his kids were illegally adopted form Ireland, snuck into the USA as being orphans from Latin America.
It is obvious to anyone actually paying attention.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: JustCause, 1/30/2014 3:04:03 PM     (No. 9712082)

Four Words
See Reply 12

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Really?, 1/30/2014 5:09:32 PM     (No. 9712250)

#24 you have just proved that your reading skills are weak. Try the fourth paragraph of the article.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: kono, 1/30/2014 6:03:53 PM     (No. 9712330)

Re #24 -- #8 gives the four words that should be enough to motivate a Congressional repeal ("you can keep it" was a bald-faced lie).

#4 gives the four words that would justify impeaching the petty-dictator-in-chief ("I have a pen" -- sorry, but we prefer the republic to the authoritarian state.)

But #12 gives the four words to which George Will is referring ("established by the state").

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Lucky4, 1/30/2014 8:11:11 PM     (No. 9712469)

I will never forgive Roberts for his horrible decision. Talk about passing the buck. He was all smiles too. It made me sick.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Edgelady, 1/31/2014 9:28:09 AM     (No. 9712998)

Adoption illegal by Irish law because they only allow adoptions through agencies. So not illegal through US law. Word is birth mothers went to a South American country where private adoption was legal which was why adoption took place there.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/31/2014 1:05:27 PM     (No. 9713292)

If there was ever a time, a SC jurist, a Roberts, allowing the passage of the unconstitutional nightmare, ObamaFraud, could have likely included death threats.

Think of FDA okaying untested drugs, lobbyists operating in virtual secret, Congressional bribing at top speed, Washington DC is becoming known as

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 1/31/2014 4:59:59 PM     (No. 9713588)

Maybe Roberts did fold to protect his kids.
Of course in America now it´s a moral disgrace to adopt a child when political correctness and true grit insists they all be aborted( murdered).
Can you believe there as many--My way or the highway --elitists in the conservative world as the liberal?
Does anyone really think a supreme vote of unconstitutional would have stopped the liberals from pushing this mess?
The only way it is gone is if we the people decide enough and act.
But of course it won´t happen is just an excuse to fail our responsibility to enforce said Constitution.

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

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