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Are House Republicans planning to
pull a fast one on immigration?

Washington Examiner, by Byron York

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Posted By:Drive, 1/27/2014 7:27:28 AM

In the House of Representatives, immigration reform is not only not dead, it´s actually the subject of a lot of working and talking as Republicans prepare for their annual retreat this weekend. That much has been clear at least since Speaker John Boehner announced the GOP will come up with a statement of "principles" on immigration reform that might -- or might not -- lead to legislation. But the Wall Street Journal stirred a lot of interest this weekend when it reported that GOP leaders are hoping to put one over on voters who oppose reform. The plan, the Journal said,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Judith, 1/27/2014 7:32:52 AM     (No. 9707077)

I think the gop is hammering the very last nail in the coffin. I´d be interested to see how many people changed their registration in the past two years.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 1/27/2014 7:35:43 AM     (No. 9707080)

Freedom will never be restored as long as the GOP exists. It is a sham party that serves the ruling class´ need to provide the illusion of choice. When faced with two Goliaths, kill the weaker one first.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: mnwxyz, 1/27/2014 7:36:10 AM     (No. 9707081)

York´s article actually answers the question (posed by the title of the article) as "No."

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Reply 4 - Posted by: The Advocate, 1/27/2014 7:39:10 AM     (No. 9707086)

Secure borders first.
Deport all criminal illegals.
Eliminate anchor babies- they are not entitled to US citizenship - gross abuse and misuse of Constitution leading to Birth Tourism.
Enforce e verify- why hire illegals when American unemployment is 15%?
If Boehner rams immigration " reform" through - he will lose Speakership.
Is he being blackmailed or is he just WEAK?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bpl40, 1/27/2014 8:04:34 AM     (No. 9707120)

Agree with #4, with one change. Accept a path to citizenship for those born here, as well as those brought here as minors. That is estimated to be a fraction of the 11million and their voting is years away. This will go along way to remove any meanness stigma from the reform.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 1/27/2014 8:13:16 AM     (No. 9707134)

Time will tell. Let´s wait and see what they actually do. Keep the pressure on them though.

Boehner and McConnell need to think about this very carefully. If they make the wrong decision, their party will never recover.



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Reply 7 - Posted by: enuf8, 1/27/2014 8:17:38 AM     (No. 9707139)

Peter Schweizer´s book title still holds true: "THROW THEM ALL OUT". Games are exactly what Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy have been playing ever since they took over the House by the T.E.A. efforts. The crying drunk needs to be reminded of this, time and time again!
Boehner´s leadership has been complicit with the illegal actions of obama and he does not have the backbone to protect the U.S.A. citizen in calling obama on his abuses.
Right now Cantor is sneakily trying to set up his backers to be Speaker------Don´t allow this to happen. Call, write, fax, complain. He´s no better than Boehner, but just wants the perks.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ocjim, 1/27/2014 8:33:01 AM     (No. 9707154)

Yes, Pubbies, by all means get that immigration legislation to Obama the Lawless, ASAP, so that he can make his amendments, get it implemented, and make his adjustments.

Fools.
BTW, still waiting for obamacare to implode???

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Reply 9 - Posted by: judy, 1/27/2014 8:55:54 AM     (No. 9707193)

I would love to see the list of attendees for this week-end´s retreat. Probably funded by the RNC. My guess is it´s a 5 star resort, nothing less.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 1/27/2014 8:56:22 AM     (No. 9707195)

Until and unless the GOP starts fighting back like the NRA fights back, I don´t want to hear anything or be bothered by this milquetoast GOP. Show Me.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Gallo3, 1/27/2014 8:56:43 AM     (No. 9707197)

Wasn´t for immigration- both legal and illegal- due to low birthrate, abortion, and birth control, the Democrat Party would be extinct in one generation.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/27/2014 9:02:02 AM     (No. 9707210)

Why is this even an issue with the GOP? Is it in our nation´s interest to further decrease the median wage? Do we think legalizing the existing 12 million illegals and allowing the immigration of 30 million more will encourage the 90 million Americans that have stopped looking for work to start looking again? The answer to both is no.

So then the answer comes down to campaign cash from the Chamber of Commerce. I hope they are promising a lot because it will cost them a great deal with the grass roots. The question the comes to mind is, where is the Chamber getting the cash?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: MissMolly, 1/27/2014 9:20:46 AM     (No. 9707240)

Geez, guys, read the article, not just the headline!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 1/27/2014 9:24:33 AM     (No. 9707253)

Maybe some posters ought to just mind their own business. I am betting everyone here can think for themselves without someone lecturing them.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: skywarrior, 1/27/2014 9:26:58 AM     (No. 9707261)

"The question the comes to mind is, where is the Chamber getting the cash?"

Spot on #12. Where indeed? I think that the mega funders like GE and GM are behind this effort. I want to see the full list, though, of who is pushing the CoC toward this debacle. I don´t for a minute believe that the main street small businesses are in favor of it. Corruption is killing what this wonderful country used to be.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/27/2014 9:36:10 AM     (No. 9707277)

Interesting the timing of Obama´s push about "income inequality" and the push to legalize all these Third World, illiterate in their own language peasants.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lt.Mom, 1/27/2014 9:52:07 AM     (No. 9707295)

I read the article, teacher. I read it very carefully, and York did NOT say the answer is no.

"The strategist stresses that, for all the talk, there´s no agreement within the House GOP on what to do about immigration. But there´s no question the issue is on the table. "The focus of the retreat is how do we address the economy and jobs," the strategist says. "There are going to be a couple of specific issues that are brought up because they are clearly things that are going to have to be dealt with -- the debt ceiling, health care, and immigration is one of those, as well."

They are trying to find a way to deal with immigration (as if we asked them to) while keeping Conservatives in the party in the dark. They have even considered waiting to after the 2014 elections to deal with it (in the article as well) but are afraid to lose conservative support if leaks would get out before the election about their intent.

My impression of all this subterfuge? It really is just that; an attempt to pull one over on us. My feeling is that they will go for a really large bill that covers other important issues, and bury comprehensive immigration legislation in that behemoth of a bill.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: william1, 1/27/2014 10:21:52 AM     (No. 9707346)

Poster #5, can you give us a timetable when Amnesty III should be enacted, should your plan succeed? Really worked well in 1982, didn´t it?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/27/2014 10:34:56 AM     (No. 9707368)

Remember towards the end of GW Bush´s 2nd term, McCain and his "gang"? America woke up and we were furious that Bush was trying to get amnesty. We stood together and they backed down.
5 years later, we are oh so weary from constant assaults on all fronts from this administration but we MUST rally and fight.
I do not believe that 11 mil number either.
If amnesty squeaks through, we are going to find out that 25 - 30 mil illegals are in the USA. Never trust gov´t numbers.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: KTWO, 1/27/2014 12:26:18 PM     (No. 9707551)

The GOP controls the House only on paper. That creates the illusion the Democrats can be restrained.

But on any vital issues enough Republicans will always vote with the Democrats to pass what the Democrats want. Call them the Establishment GOP or simply Boehnerites.

The EGOP is concerned only with staying in office and being pleasant to their buddies across the aisle. The nation itself is of no interest to them.

Even though the Democrats can legislate what they want it is politically valuable to have a scapegoat to blame for every problem. The GOP conservatives serve that role.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/27/2014 2:52:57 PM     (No. 9707787)

Since there is a chance that the Republicans may become the majority in the US Senate and hold the US House after the November election they should wait until after that when they can fashion much more balanced immigration reform legislation. Then if Obama vetoes the legislation, that will probably include some sort of legal status for some illegal aliens, it will be Obama and the liberal Democrats who will have to answer to their Hispanic voter demographic.

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