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Mann v. Steyn - Mann
wins round two

Washington Post, by Jonathan H. Adler

Original Article

Posted By:Fiesta del sol, 1/24/2014 6:28:35 AM

On Wednesday, Judge Frederick Weisberg handed climate scientist Michael Mann a potentially significant victory in his defamation suit against Mark Steyn, National Review, Rand Simberg, and the Competitive Enterprise Institute. In a relatively brief order, Judge Weisberg denied the defendants’ motions to dismiss and lifted the stay on discovery in the suit. He explained: Opinions and rhetorical hyperbole are protected speech under the First Amendment. Arguably, several of defendants’ statements fall into these protected categories. Some of defendants’ statements, however, contain what could reasonably be understood as assertions of fact. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently, manipulating his data

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Not good, can´t believe this is America. And what the heck? Steyn isn´t at National Review anymore. The only good one left over there is Jonah.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spunk, 1/24/2014 6:51:15 AM     (No. 9703675)

And Victor.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/24/2014 6:52:13 AM     (No. 9703676)

Climate scientists are frauds and data manipulators and as a public figure Steyn has some right to say what he wants about Mann. But there´s plenty of evidence to prove Mann is a fraud which I hope comes out..Hate to see mark going through this ridiculous lawsuit though.I think it was Mann who invented the hockey stick modeling for future climate change and it´s pure bunk..

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 1/24/2014 6:55:09 AM     (No. 9703681)

I don´t think Mr. Mann is going to like discovery.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Starlady, 1/24/2014 6:58:54 AM     (No. 9703685)

From reading this blog post and the comments following it seems the judge ordered discovery for the defendants. I consider this alone as a win. The Attorney General of Va tried to get Mann´s research papers from UVa but was denied. I think a main point of this lawsuit was for the discovery. Mann´s "hockey stick" results proving global warming were central to the issue in asserting fraud.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/24/2014 7:08:45 AM     (No. 9703694)

Every citizen in the U.S. should be suing Mann for defamation against citizens.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Deedo, 1/24/2014 8:04:33 AM     (No. 9703785)

I think that Mann got a war chest from a wealthy supporter and his strategy is to attack Steyn in the courts with the express intention to outspend him and bleed him dry financially.

If Steyn can resist Mann´s intent and actually use the courts to pry the original data from Mann, that might backfire.

However, Mann being such a scientist of irrefutable sterling reputation probably destroyed his raw data because that´s what all good scientists do when they are proud of and ready to defend their work. /sarcasm off

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 1/24/2014 8:08:32 AM     (No. 9703790)

I guess Mann hasn´t heard about Mark b-slapping the Canadian Human Rights Commission. This should be fun.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 1/24/2014 8:46:00 AM     (No. 9703846)

For those interested:

Frederick H. Weisberg is an associate judge for the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. He was originally appointed to the court by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed by President George H.W. Bush and President George W. Bush. He has served on the court since 1977.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/24/2014 9:11:52 AM     (No. 9703892)

Mann was publicly humuliated when those Russians hacked the computers of Globaloney Central in the UK and captured a treasure trove of e-mails among scientists worldwide. In those they were collaborating to commit scientific malpractice for the purpose of gaining ever increasing government grant money. There was even the bigger prize, a United Nations bonanza, perhaps even a UN Committee Chair.

Mann personally selected and "cherry picked" data from temperature monitoring stations in order to make his graph look the way he wanted it to. Some of those temperature stations had never been moved from inside urban environments after devades. One thing Mark might want to do is to call as witnesses some Doctoral students who worked under Mann and now find his scientific method disgusting. I´m sure there´s one or two out there willing to talk.

I sure hope Steyn has a legal fund established, because he´s going to need it. I suspect the likes of George Soros are bankrolling Mann´s legal bench.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Truthfetish, 1/24/2014 9:15:29 AM     (No. 9703898)

What 6 and 7 said.

Mark is defending himself with his own pen. This will make for some fun reading!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Bison65, 1/24/2014 9:23:40 AM     (No. 9703910)

I expect Michael Mann and his attorneys will try to hide the discovery of evidence just as Mann, Phil Jones of East Anglia, and James Hansen of NASA conspired to hide the decline of temperatures that has been the case for the past 17 years according to the UK Met Office.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Yosemite Sam, 1/24/2014 9:33:41 AM     (No. 9703931)

Ditto #4. Mann has proven himself a fool. But of course, in this once great country, even a fool is free to be a fool.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/24/2014 9:54:08 AM     (No. 9703980)

"Conducting his research fraudulently, manipulating his data"...the bread and butter of the Warmists (grant handout mongers).

Pointing out how these crooks manipulate their supposed data is what is bringing them to the court of justice. Whining about ´he made a bad statement about me´ is pure BS. Criminals have NO rights!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: toddh, 1/24/2014 10:56:49 AM     (No. 9704066)

The court seems to already have decided that Mann is a scientist.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: msjena, 1/24/2014 11:08:03 AM     (No. 9704082)

It´s just a motion to dismiss. If the case goes to trial, a jury will decide. The article says the decision might be appealable. Steyn is apparently representing himself. Shades of Howark Roark!

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