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Zulu: is this the greatest
ever British war film?

Telegraph [UK], by Will Heaven

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 1/23/2014 9:59:56 AM

What’s so great about Zulu? To answer that question properly, you need to pass this test first. 1) Do you know Men of Harlech off by heart? 2) Can you name at least half of the 11 Victoria Cross winners in the film (by their nicknames where possible) without resorting to Google? 3) Have you ever found yourself stirred to ridiculous feelings of patriotism by John Barry’s magnificent film score on the morning commute? I really hope someone else answers “yes” to all three, otherwise you can chalk me up as a lone madman. Zulu--released 50 years ago this week--is

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Fifty years old and still a great movie!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 1/23/2014 10:11:40 AM     (No. 9702362)

I agree, OP.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: PChristopher, 1/23/2014 10:22:55 AM     (No. 9702382)

I love that old picture! The actor playing the Colour Sergeant was just wonderful! Wonderful quotes:

Colour Sergeant Bourne: It´s a miracle.

Lieutenant John Chard: If it´s a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it´s a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.

Colour Sergeant Bourne: And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind


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Reply 3 - Posted by: lawabidingcitizen, 1/23/2014 10:23:50 AM     (No. 9702385)

Can´t answer any of the questions, but we did enjoy watching it on Netflix. Also the mini-series, Shaka Zulu.

The new large screens enhance watching these kinds of epics.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: psych53, 1/23/2014 10:35:45 AM     (No. 9702406)

In the summer of 72 I spent a few days at the church in Snowdonia, Wales, where most of the soldiers were from. Their torn and bloodied flag hangs in the church. The experience brought history alive. God bless those brave soldiers!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/23/2014 10:50:15 AM     (No. 9702425)

I say !

Brilliant article...what.

Carry on.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: lanczos, 1/23/2014 10:56:09 AM     (No. 9702434)

What a great movie! It was one of the first DVDs I bought when I first got a DVD player years ago.


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Reply 7 - Posted by: Fromtheright2, 1/23/2014 10:58:24 AM     (No. 9702437)

Ummm...yes. Next question?

Men of Harlech stop your dreaming
Can´t you see their spear points gleaming
See their battle pennants streaming
To this battlefield.

Rick Lasorda was singing the song as he evacuated the WTC on 9/11. Last heard as he went up the stairs for the last time to make sure everyone was out.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Drive, 1/23/2014 11:03:06 AM     (No. 9702448)

I remember that Bob Hope movie where he keeps saying, ´3 against a thousand´ to recall that Zulu war. Then he quips, There were the toughest 3 Zulus we ever met.´

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/23/2014 11:04:50 AM     (No. 9702450)

Fantastic movie, even better acting in it.
I always wondered, though, why the British would have built their fort/encampment in such a low lying area. I remember wondering that when I first saw it, after seeing how easily the Zulu tribe had surrounded them from the higher hills.
Oh well, still a great film.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/23/2014 11:10:33 AM     (No. 9702460)

No

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 1/23/2014 11:12:59 AM     (No. 9702464)

"Awwwwllll right! Nobody told you to stop working..."

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Reply 12 - Posted by: kanphil, 1/23/2014 11:18:13 AM     (No. 9702473)

That entire film genre, of British battles in their far flung empire, was one of the most enjoyable ever. Khartoum was mentioned, which had Charlton Heston starring as General "Chinese" Gordon taking on El Mahdi(was it Laurence Olivier?). Another of my favorites from the era not mentioned was Four White Feathers(made under different titles)where a trooper, branded as a coward by his fellow troopers, sets out into enemy territory alone to redeem himself. Fantastic! They just don´t make ´em like that anymore.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 1/23/2014 11:23:10 AM     (No. 9702483)

A movie without peer.

The scenes with the multitudes of Zulus are both breathtaking and chilling.

Imagine the planning, organizing and control it took to stage those scenes.

Now I have to dig it out and watch it again!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: SemperParatus, 1/23/2014 11:24:27 AM     (No. 9702484)

A wonderful movie about courageous and dutiful men.

To know that the battle is remembered on this 23rd Day of January is a positive step in believing, just perhaps, that English patriotism isn´t quite dead yet.

Despite the beating patriotism has taken over the last several years, I think we’re all due for a new appreciation of our ancestors, on both sides of the pond.

Adrian Greaves’ book, “Rorke’s Drift” is a must read for anyone interested in this battle. You’ll see what instigated this sudden engagement and how politics continues to play with servicemen’s lives. The book is in-depth and very worth your reading.

The movie is accurate in several areas and not so much in others but that’s movie making at its best/worst. Some characters in the film accurately portray the men present that day, other’s do not. One modern day family still resents the manner in which their ancestor was portrayed in the movie (polar opposites, actually. His service record proved this fact yet the writers needed an antagonist).

If you want to see what men are capable of when facing the most exhausting and hopeless odds, watch this movie.

Hail Britannia.

Semper Paratus.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/23/2014 11:29:32 AM     (No. 9702496)

It was never a "fort", it was a "station". I loved the movie and have seen it many times.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ruhn, 1/23/2014 11:35:13 AM     (No. 9702504)

Colour Sergeant Bourne: "Mr. Witt, sir, be quiet now will you; there´s a good gentleman. You´ll upset the lads."

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Reply 17 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 1/23/2014 11:37:12 AM     (No. 9702506)

I love the movie. Went so far that I have an 1877 Martini-Henry rifle hanging on my wall. Never shot it. I think the only ammo available is from custom loaders at several bucks per round.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 1/23/2014 11:46:14 AM     (No. 9702517)

One of my favorites.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 1/23/2014 11:56:40 AM     (No. 9702532)

Loved "Zulu", what a story about bravery. Michael Caine is my favorite actor, I think this was his first movie. No matter how bad or good his movies are, I always love to see him and hear him talk. He has a rags to riches story for sure.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RUReadyY3K, 1/23/2014 12:04:20 PM     (No. 9702539)

I thoroughly have enjoyed watching it a few times over the years.

I´ll bet that this movie could not be made today without casting the British as brutal racists and the Zulus as peaceful, benevolent and gentle souls who never harmed any other people.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/23/2014 12:04:46 PM     (No. 9702540)

There were only a few changes in the movie from the real story:

1) The Color Sergeant was actually one of the youngest to ever attain that rank, not an crusty veteran. The men called him,"kid."
2) The "Men of Harlach" lyrics were altered to fit the movie e.g. "can you see their spear-points gleaming?"
3) The song actually became the Regimental Song after the Battle of Roarke´s Drift.

etc.

All in all one of the greatest British movies ever, and one that I own in my library.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 1/23/2014 12:11:57 PM     (No. 9702548)

Re #12--Yes, that was Olivier playing the Mahdi. Re #14: I´ve read that the, what, grandchildren of Private Hook, watching the premier of the movie, got so angry they walked out of the theater because of the way Hook was being portrayed.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hazymac, 1/23/2014 12:52:12 PM     (No. 9702611)

Zulu is certainly among the greatest British war movies. No other film except perhaps Hitchcock´s The Birds had me as much on the edge of my seat. And yes, Michael Caine, whose acting career started in 1950, played one of his most memorable roles in Zulu. If you haven´t ever seen it, hang onto something and watch.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 1/23/2014 1:03:56 PM     (No. 9702633)

I disagree with the author´s take that the movie denigrated the Zulus. Every time I watch it I come away thinking what spectacular warriors the Zulus were, as well as the British. It certainly made me respect them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/23/2014 1:14:04 PM     (No. 9702649)

I first saw this movie back during the 1960´s at Sydney, Australia. I´ll always remember it was a very large theatre and at the start of the movie when the curtain opened they showed Queen Elizabeth on the screen riding on a horse wearing a red military uniform. Everybody in the place stood up and sang God Save The Queen.

Michael Cain was in real life a British infantryman in Korea during the 1950-53 war there, so he had some real time experiences as to what infantrymen face on the battlefield.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: web, 1/23/2014 1:25:58 PM     (No. 9702667)

This is indeed one of my favorite movies. Love the Zulu chants. Another overlooked Michael Caine movie is The Last Valley, with Omar Sharif, from 1971. Just bought it on Amazon so that I could enjoy it again. Great music from John Barry, who also did Zulu.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: harper, 1/23/2014 1:40:46 PM     (No. 9702691)

Zulu ably demonstrates what all that seemingly pointless military drill is for: How to do your duty in the line when all seems lost, obey your Officers and NCOs when your knees are going wobbly and overcome the urge to flee like rabble.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/23/2014 1:44:27 PM     (No. 9702699)

Nah. Best Michael Caine movie is "The Man Who Would be King". Read his memoir, if you enjoy the actor and his work, "What´s It All About" is a good read.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: crimea river, 1/23/2014 2:23:32 PM     (No. 9702773)

A great movie even though it´s not a documentary as the author points out. I saw Zulu Dawn and it was a bit of a snoozer.

I can recommend the book ´Washing of the Spears´ as a great source for details on both Rorke´s Drift and Isandhlwana.

In Zulu Chief Cetshwayo was played by his great grandson Chief Buthelezi who still rules KwaZulu. After he lost the war, Chief Cetshwayo travelled to England to ask Queen Victoria for his country back as the British attack had been unprovoked. She agreed with him and ordered his lands to be returned.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: rarebear, 1/23/2014 2:25:31 PM     (No. 9702777)

Zulu Dawn was as good, or better, than Zulu. Much better cast, in my opinion - Peter O´Toole, Bob Hoskins, and Burt Lancaster were excellent.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Captain Howdy, 1/23/2014 10:18:31 PM     (No. 9703428)

I love both Zulu and Zulu Dawn. They compliment each other, Zulu Dawn is about the battle that occurred the day before the Roarkes
Drift subject of Zulu, but the movie was made maybe ten years after Zulu. It got me interested in reading about that period of history, Zulu Dawn is amazingly faithful to many actual incidents. Burt Lancaster even looks like his character, Durnford. The Zulu were amazing warriors. The Boers are very accomplished fighters also.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Objectivity, 1/24/2014 12:40:09 AM     (No. 9703551)

Zulu was a great movie. I will search out Zulu Dawn and look forward to watching ....

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Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of

You´re in denial if
you think Steve Israel is
wrong about GOP racism

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Daily Beast, by Michael Tomasky    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/14/2014 6:09:58 AM     Post Reply
Some time back, whenever a big racial controversy erupted, I trained myself into the habit of reading about it at FoxNews.com, just for the unbelievable comment threads. Let’s put it this way: If my friends and I went out to a bar and started playing a “let’s write the racist FoxNews.com comment thread” drinking game, our efforts couldn’t begin to approach what I read there.I wasn’t alone. Liberal websites started feasting on these threads. And so, a couple of years ago, Ailes & Co. got wise. Stories about race were, at least in my disheartened experience, closed to comments.


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