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House Intelligence chairman suggests Russian
spies helped Edward Snowden hack NSA

Washington Examiner [DC], by Joel Gehrke

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/19/2014 5:32:32 AM

National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden had outside help, perhaps from Russian spies, according to the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. "This was a thief, who we believe had some help, who stole information the vast majority had nothing to do with privacy." Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., who heads up the intel panel, told NBC´s "Meet the Press" in an interview that will air Sunday. "Our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines have been incredibly harmed by the data that he has taken with him and we believe now is in the hands of nation-states." NBC released an excerpt of the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley, 1/19/2014 6:35:10 AM     (No. 9697577)

Of course he suggests that.
After all, it is more important to place blame than it is to admit your own ineptitude or intentional criminal behavior.
Sounds like he took a lesson from Obama.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Poobah, 1/19/2014 7:00:21 AM     (No. 9697590)

It was my understanding that Snowden was actually working with the sensitive data on a daily basis. Why would he need Russia’s help?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum, 1/19/2014 7:55:17 AM     (No. 9697623)

Just can´t get on the pro-Snowden bandwagon. He may have informed us the government was and continues to spy on us, but he also evidently has information that is detrimental to the nation´s security. Nothing he has released has caused the government to change its ways. I just can´t see how he is doing good by doing something bad. I don´t believe a patriot would act the way he has. This whole thing doesn´t sit well with me. I can´t or won´t applaud his actions. He needs to be extracted and put in a cell for the rest of his life.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ruready?, 1/19/2014 8:10:49 AM     (No. 9697637)

As long as you feel the same way about Clapper, I´m with you, #3. Mike Rogers likes being a big dog as well. I do not trust him or Diane Feinstein.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/19/2014 8:12:24 AM     (No. 9697638)

Snowden didn´t have to go on a world tour to be a spy for the Russians.If he´s guilty of anything,it´s being appalled at the level of snooping and spying Obama is doing. He loves his country and wants to come home.

Rogers is a Boner lackey,so it doesn´t surprise me to hear this absurd accusation.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Freeloader, 1/19/2014 8:16:46 AM     (No. 9697643)

"We will bury you."
Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev
Soviet Premier
Western Ambassadors Reception
Polish Embassy-Moscow
November 18, 1956

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Reply 7 - Posted by: 4freedom, 1/19/2014 8:27:53 AM     (No. 9697655)

I remember that #6, he also said alot of other things that are actually coming true. The progressive/commie takeover is almost complete.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: suedotsue, 1/19/2014 8:29:34 AM     (No. 9697656)

No sale, Mike. Those running US government today are the gravest danger to our military. This has been seen over the past decade in various so-called wars in which our soldiers aren´t allowed to fight, and if they come home it´s to an America with no laws. The Fort Hood Islamic massacre of our unarmed military is still termed workplace violence. The killer, a known threat to our military, was continually promoted. Nobody needed any secret info to kill 3000 people on 9/11/01 or to destroy our economy every day since. Have fun on tv, Mike.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: strike3, 1/19/2014 8:32:31 AM     (No. 9697659)

Bingo, #2.

Our armed forces have been hurt more by their own un-American CIC than by all of the hackers and whistleblowers in the world.

#3, I ask myself if what Snowden did was wrong and I have to say yes. I also think that having the American people know what the government does and lies about is a good thing. I already knew what the NSA does and approve of it because it ensured that we won the Cold War and kept track of our enemies, but power like that can easily be abused and must be controlled by competent and patriotic people, which the Obama administration severely lacks.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/19/2014 8:55:09 AM     (No. 9697678)

Any so called news uttered on NBC´s tired, old, excuse,
MEET THE COMMIE PRESS, is automatically suspect.

If it was real news, Mike Rogers would have announced it during the week on FoxTV. It would not have come out on this sleepy Sunday, no audience, show.
If it´s true that Rogers is a Boehner RINO lackey, then why bother giving him any Lucianne space, any time ?
Not knowing his name, leaves plenty of doubt about his sudden attempts at getting attention.
Remember the stifling, old, pre Drudge days of only three tightly controlled networks when MEET THE COMMIE PRESS, seemed important ? !

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/19/2014 9:11:06 AM     (No. 9697696)

One thing is for sure, up to this point Snowden appears to be a lot smarter then the people who Obama put in place to run the NSA.

You can bet that the Russans, whatever their intelligence service contacts were with Snowden before this fiasco became public, will not be broadcasting them to the world.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: dragonlearner, 1/19/2014 9:11:52 AM     (No. 9697699)

I dare say that if some government employee would step out of the IRS and reveal a smoking gun that would blow open this anti-conservative operation, we as conservatives would look on that person as a hero. Yet, that person would be no different then Snowden.

I would also disagree with the notion that nothing has changed regarding Snowden´s revelations. Nothing may have happened inside government but the people are now informed. We haven´t had a major election since Snowden blew the whistle. Give it time.

I would also add that the info about NSA spying on Americans was already out in the public domain but it was being ignored by most people. Snowden changed that.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: littleorby, 1/19/2014 9:29:03 AM     (No. 9697711)

Congratulations! To the majority of Ldotters on this issue.

It´s becoming harder, and harder for the (to borrow R. Limbaugh´s definition), The Wizards of Smarts, to fool you.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: MDConservative, 1/19/2014 9:29:39 AM     (No. 9697714)

The NSA is hoist on its own petard, and deservingly so. Americans are far to cavalier with their liberties, and most have no idea they are being drained "for our own good." I imagine many, even among conservatives, support that trade of liberty for security. I also wonder whether American spies are helping some young Russian leaker to return the favor...you think?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: zorba, 1/19/2014 10:41:22 AM     (No. 9697770)

I agree #3. I am dismayed to see that so many on this site are so willing to overlook the tremendous damage Snowden is doing by giving such sensitive information to the people who want to come here to kill us. It´s obvious to me that Snowden is a spy, and a traitor who would have willingly -- yea, eagerly -- spilled the secret of D-Day to the Nazis, had he been around in those days. I wonder how much money he has sold out for and which Swiss bank he keeps his account in.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/19/2014 10:47:46 AM     (No. 9697778)

Mike Rogers exemplifies Republican Dip-stickery in action.

Everyone from 5 year olds to 95 year olds has long understood governments spy on citizens ..

.. never mind .. this whole charade is too stupid to comment on.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MissMolly, 1/19/2014 10:50:10 AM     (No. 9697786)

#3 and #15 have it right. Snowden thought he´d be a hero, but he fled to enemy states to proclaim his heroism. If he´s sure he did the right thing, then come back here and face the courts. Otherwise, I stand with those who believe he didn´t have the best interest of his country in mind.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: jackie, 1/19/2014 11:13:13 AM     (No. 9697814)

#17...The man who made the YouTube video was blamed for Benghazi...No one even knew of its existence...and he was thrown in prison for how long... What the hell do you think Obama and the beast would have done to Snowden! I don´t blame him. I read all about the harm he has done..Really? I want to see exactly how he harmed our military..not "just words" If the people in this country are so outraged about the security of this country,then lets figure out a way to stop the real enemy, Obama, Piglosi,Reid, and the cowardly elitist Repubs..I stand with Snowden.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/19/2014 11:29:18 AM     (No. 9697828)

The Obama presidency has shown the arrogance and incompetence of government. Incredibly, a newbie contractor is able to access all the nation´s secrets and fly to China, then Russia with them.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: chillijilli, 1/19/2014 11:33:24 AM     (No. 9697833)

There aren´t only 2 options when it comes to what Snowden is up to. Yes, he could be a traitor and yes, he could be a hero. But he could also be doing exactly what he´s been trained to do by our own government---assuming the role of international sitting duck harboring top secret metadata coveted by every civilized country in the world. Perhaps the NSA, CIA et al wonder what schemes some of our friends and enemies might use to try to hack into his encoded data. Hmmm.
Maybe Obama will conveniently "find a way" for Snowden to come in from the cold when we´ve learned whatever it is we were hoping to learn. Because of his extraordinary experiences in Russia, Snowdeni could be given super secret NSA consultant status--- which may very well be what he´s always been.
Anyone who has followed this story as it´s been reported *knows* that something is definitely amiss. Why suddenly believe everything the MSM or the Obama administration puts out there for us?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: planetgeo, 1/19/2014 11:33:30 AM     (No. 9697834)

Why is everyone assuming this is a binary situation (hero or traitor)? There´s no question that he did something that was both illegal and extremely harmful to our military and our intelligence gathering. But if he was only a traitor, why didn´t he just keep quiet and keep passing secrets to the enemy? Why go public and put himself in immediate personal danger? Why even reveal the mass surveillance on American citizens? What´s the value of that to our enemies? Answer: there´s no value of that revelation to our enemies. He didn´t have to spill that...but he did.

Having said that, he´s also not just a hero. A genuine hero wouldn´t have revealed all the other information about assets used (now known to our enemies) and methods used. He could have limited his revelations. He could have chosen a different forum and different (neutral) haven.

So the overall assessment of Snowden isn´t a simple label, traitor or hero. But yes, the one aspect of his illegal actions...the revelation of the massive universal surveillance of ALL communications of the American public...is in itself heroic and hugely important to this country. I believe it will in fact change the course of our history...for the better...now that it is known.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: planetgeo, 1/19/2014 11:35:19 AM     (No. 9697837)

#20, looks like we had a simul-mindmeld.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: joew9, 1/19/2014 1:11:29 PM     (No. 9697939)

Snowden revealing the US gov spying on US citizens could be considered heroic. But after he left for China he revealed how the US spied on our enemies. He crossed the line at that point to traitor. He should be executed.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/19/2014 1:36:51 PM     (No. 9697961)

A list of ´good behaviors´ does not weigh against a single crime.

All of the days during which one did not rob a bank mean nothing once one has robbed said bank.

Using the money for a very good purpose also counts for nothing.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: fastphil, 1/19/2014 4:49:56 PM     (No. 9698077)

Stop the whining. If Snowden was a Russian he would be feted and exalted throughout the country and given asylum and a lifetime pension. The spying game is a double edged sword. Shame on us for letting a minor level employee having access to such sensitive information. Perhaps we have learned a vital lesson.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Axeman, 1/19/2014 5:59:49 PM     (No. 9698111)

I am not an expert on intel but it seems to me the NSA should not even have information that´s incredibly harmful to the military. Isn´t military ops out of their jurisdiction? They are not a branch of the military. They are a seperate branch of the executive, aren´t they?
Even if I am wrong about that, something about this story stinks, and it´s not just Snowden.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ruready?, 1/19/2014 6:53:29 PM     (No. 9698127)

Mike Roger´s may consider himself conservative but his attitude is pure Wuss. I want this surveillance of our private phone calls stopped and stopped yesterday. This incessant whining about national security may be at stake. I wish I was in charge of the NSA - I would fire some folks "el quicko". What kind of American is so impotent that they cannot develop technology that achieves their ends without spying on who we call??? Hey, they only have the best and brightest and all of our money.

Hey, you NSA Wusses. You should be ashamed that you are so incompetent that you cannot solve this problem without encroaching on our freedoms. You incompetent jerks disgust me!!!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 1/19/2014 7:04:25 PM     (No. 9698132)

Just spin to protect Comrade Urkel in the White House.

A real community organizer.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: fishermanswife, 1/19/2014 7:41:12 PM     (No. 9698155)

Just suppose one of King George´s clerks supporting the King´s army in the colonies knew that the King was secretly implementing treacherous actions against the colonists. Suppose he wrote a pamphlet revealing the existence and extent of the treachery. This, of course, would have been illegal at the time. He would have faced the death penalty at the hand of the King.

It is logical to suppose that he would have had to flee the colonies in order to keep his freedom - the Kin´s army, and all.

Suppose he fled to France and/or Germany and then revealed the King´s secret, treacherous actions against their governments.

Would we hail this man as hero or traitor in our US History books?



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Reply 30 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/19/2014 9:28:22 PM     (No. 9698205)

Of course, according to the leftists, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were innocent of any such collusion. s/o

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Reply 31 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/19/2014 11:23:29 PM     (No. 9698297)

If they don´t know if the Russian secret intelligence services assisted Snowden in hacking highly classified government information from NSA computers, under the circumstances, it is only prudent that the US intelligence services assume that they did and go from there.

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GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
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For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
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Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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