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Unwinding Obamacare
Weekly Standard, by James C. Capretta & Yuval Levin

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/17/2014 5:22:55 AM

Obamacare is no longer a theoretical proposition. It is now being implemented, if with some notable exceptions for the portions of the law the Obama administration finds particularly inconvenient. Millions of Americans are experiencing its consequences directly, and millions more are forming their opinions of it based on what they are hearing of its effects. Those opinions are generally not positive. The fact that many of the law’s congressional supporters are now running scared for fear of voter backlash is a good indication of how poorly the rollout is going. Obamacare’s travails seem likely to play into the hands of


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/17/2014 5:47:37 AM     (No. 9695181)

If all the assmptions about this law are as stupid as thinking young people were going to pay the tab,then there´s really big problems ahead.The only way Obama can make this plan even marginally successful is to pour more bucket loads of money on it.Reinsuring insurance companies that go broke is an astronomical unaccounted for cost in their initial projections. Another big Obama lie was the 1 trillion cost over 10 years.To avoid a national insurance company bankruptcy,Obama instead would have to hugely subsidize individual plans being offered.

I mean seriously,how many people are going to spend $500 a month when the insurance wouldn´t even kick in until $15,000 in expenses?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/17/2014 6:03:34 AM     (No. 9695190)

I know a woman whose family has huge medical problems. Her husband just had surgery because of a work injury. She needs surgery but can´t afford it. She looked into Ovomitcare and discovered that not only can they not afford the premiums (makes a few dollars over the subsidy limit), but neither can she afford the co-pays and cap threshold. She discovered that once she met the cap, Ovomitcare care will only pay 50% until she reaches the next threshold (double the original threshold) will Ovomitcare pay 100%. She is trying to convince her husband to take a comp settlement so she can afford her own surgery. She was satisfied with her old insurance. This is what demonrats gave the country under the auspices of Barry.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/17/2014 6:43:25 AM     (No. 9695213)

Congressional Republicans need to roll this entire mess back, go back to 2009 before this thing started.

Then work on getting the cost of health care down. Medical malpractice cost at the top of the list.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Poobah, 1/17/2014 7:40:21 AM     (No. 9695274)

FTA: “The administration and its supporters in Congress will do all they can to mask the faults of this monstrosity and enable its survival, “

And so will the media!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: starboard, 1/17/2014 7:52:26 AM     (No. 9695292)

The Republicans need a fearless leader to take charge and keep this ship from capsizing. Ted, are you preparing for the task at hand?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 1/17/2014 8:12:35 AM     (No. 9695315)

We need to face the reality that the GOP Establishment leaders in congress have no intention of repealing Obamacare.

They have dropped all efforts to repeal or defund, and instead have adopted the "repair or fix" approach by going along with delays that give the Socialists time to plug the most gaping holes.

Don´t look to the GOP to be a legitimate opposition party under the current leadership.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Lakeside Granny, 1/17/2014 8:55:24 AM     (No. 9695383)

#6 you are absolutely correct. This is what I heard from Mark Levin yesterday.

We have no one, I repeat, no one watching out for us in congress. Cruz being the exception that both parties beat up on everytime he opens his mouth.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: M2, 1/17/2014 8:58:06 AM     (No. 9695392)

This article is ridiculous. The entire premise and problem of Obamacare are both the individual mandate and the employer mandate. The writers are tap-dancing around all the possible ways the GOP can sidestep the bill instead of insisting on its repeal.

At the very least, both mandates should be removed. That is reasonable. But it would necessitate the collapse of the entire bill, so of course, it isn´t being seriously challenged.

OPEN LETTER TO GOP AND DEMOCRATS TRYING TO SAVE THEIR JOBS: It´s the mandates, stupid. Forget about tinkering around the margins of this awful bill and put a stake through its heart by removing the mandates. Then let the bill collapse of its own sheer outrageousness.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/17/2014 9:08:24 AM     (No. 9695409)

Good luck. Once the liberal Democrats move the social welfare goalposts have you ever actually seen the Republicans do anything effective to reverse that usually very expensive action more then talk a lot before they eventually aquess to what the Democrats have accomplished?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: maryc, 1/17/2014 9:19:06 AM     (No. 9695434)

Most members of Congress have become prostitutes for the press plain and simple. The fear of an unfavorable article is greater than the fear of constituents disfavor.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bpl40, 1/17/2014 9:27:08 AM     (No. 9695445)

One of the (somewhat hidden at this point) advantages of this mess is that it is playing right into Ted Cruz´s hands. There is no other Tea Party candidate in his path. Christie has self destructed. IMO he will demolish Hillary in the debates and on the hustings. He should get ready for an attack by the media that will make the Palin affair look like a day at the beach. But..Ted will be more than a match for these lefty maggots.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ivehadit, 1/17/2014 9:35:51 AM     (No. 9695463)

Ted Cruz. Period. He is the answer. It was an unmitigated shame that Ted had to answer the questions from Greta Van S. last night about why his own party attacks him. Shame on the Elites! The fact is Ted got it exactly correct in his assessment of obamacare and saved the republican party by jumping out in front to call national attention to the fact that democrats OWN this and republicans did not vote for this whatsoever and want to stop it in its entirety.

I stand with Ted.Period. We MUST fight to END this. Now.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 1/17/2014 10:07:13 AM     (No. 9695503)

Republicans cannot stand aside and assume the law will collapse of its own weight.[Emphasis mine] The administration and its supporters in Congress will do all they can to mask the faults of this monstrosity and enable its survival, and they will further assert that bare survival is the new definition of success.

It makes one wonder what part of representing the people/their constituents don´t Republicans understand? If pubbies don´t aggressively work to repeal, defund, etc. a hated law, the Demonrats certainly won´t do it. The key is aggressively.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/17/2014 10:24:18 AM     (No. 9695529)

Misery, death, hacking crimes will bringg Obama´s medi fraud, to its

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Reply 15 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/17/2014 10:26:06 AM     (No. 9695534)

If this was ever going to be stopped it would have had to have been before Jan 1. Now that people are receiving treatment it´s too late.

I can´t help to believe that the Republican opposition was insincere from the beginning. Yes, they didn´t vote for it but they didn´t have to in order for it to pass. We know that healthcare costs were due to explode with boomer retirements and was on an unsustainable course (at least that´s what we were told by the feds). We also know they didn´t raise a finger to defund it when they had the chance. Healthcare and Benghazi will become old news.This is why they are so anxious to move on to immigration now. They will focus on 2014 business only.

Sorry to be such a cynic but I´ve been becoming one lately.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/17/2014 10:33:46 AM     (No. 9695546)

I posted too soon and had some formatting errors. Whoops.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: starboard, 1/17/2014 10:38:40 AM     (No. 9695558)

21st amendment folks.
It´s never too late.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: suedotsue, 1/17/2014 11:05:43 AM     (No. 9695613)

The GOP House has been able to defund ObamaCare every day since January 2011. John Boehner has refused to hold a standalone up or down vote on defunding ObamaCare. Boehner has also refused to hold a standalone up or down vote approving ObamaCare as a tax. John Roberts said O´Care was legal as a tax, he didn´t say the House had to approve it. All taxes must be approved by the House. We gave the GOP all those people in Nov. 2010 for one reason, which was so they could defund ObamaCare. They laughed in our face.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/17/2014 11:31:03 AM     (No. 9695657)

FTA: "Off-year elections in an incumbent president’s second term already tend to go poorly for that president’s party, and Obamacare appears likely to exacerbate that trend".

I´m really not going to hold my breath on this one. I´m almost beginning to believe that there is NO Republican party in Congress anymore. We can read many articles written by numerous persons that tell us what is wrong with Obozocare (just about everything) and what could be done about it, but what we don´t read or hear is what Republicans want to do about it. The only thing we hear is how the Republicans want to do is "fix" some portion of the bill. That´s not leading. That´s caving in to the other party. I´ve come to the conclusion that the Republicans in Congress, both houses, simply don´t rock the boat during a re-election year. And yes, the know that anything they do to counter-act anything the Dims do will be met with overwhelming negative press about them. Can´t have that. It might cost them a few votes. They never seem to realize that it just might gain the many more votes.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 1/17/2014 11:35:34 AM     (No. 9695666)

Hah! The Republicans, especially those in the Senate, may talk and mutter a bit, but basically they´re too cowardly and anxious about their public images, as defined by the MSM, to do anything about Obamacare.

This has been the case since 1932; during the last eighty years the GOP has been schooled to cower before Democrats, and carefully affix "KICK ME!" signs to their posteriors as soon as they enter the DC city limits. The Democrats oblige them in this at every opportunity. The Republicans immediately apologize abjectly. They confuse cowardice with gentility.

Contrary to what some other disgusted Republicans say, the GOP is not the Stupid Party; it is the Scaredy-cat Party.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Arby, 1/17/2014 12:01:42 PM     (No. 9695732)

The Pubbies must submit an alternative, one behind which they can all rally, an alternative that will be broadly seen as being in the best interests of America. Fauxbama has done his part--creating a miasma of chaos and lies and incompetence. Now the Pubbies must step up and seize the opportunity. Help us here, people.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: nevernaught, 1/17/2014 12:06:56 PM     (No. 9695739)

Don´t bother the GOP with looking for ways to win Congress and the Presidency back, they are exploring more devious paths to self destruction.

Only 3% of the people in this country are interested in Amnesty legislation for Illegal Criminals and a large majority of voters are against Amnesty. GOP solution, an Amnesty bill for illegals in the House sponsored by Republicans. Yes that will gain you votes... in bizarro land.

In New Jersey, Governor Christie (yes that Christie) recently signed a Dream act bill providing illegal criminals with tuition to attend state educational institutions. Yes that will do the trick, now for another traffic jam to keep his staff busy.

ObamaCare, something that only a self indulgent former Marxist Community Organizer wanted passed, is self destructing as we knew it would. Is it any wonder, the bill that must be passed unread, is the biggest and most unworkable piece of trash ever. The GOP is pondering a tough response any day now that won´t offend anyone.

Of yes the House GOP just passed a budget bill of over one trillion dollars just to keep Obama and the Michelle in vacation money through the next three months or so. Sadly, veterans had their pensions cut to pay for the GOP offerings to the King.

Today I read that California is considering funding a High Speed train to Mexico and back. They are going to call it the Amnesty Bullet Train to free health care and illegal citizenship express mess.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Jebediah, 1/17/2014 1:11:30 PM     (No. 9695840)

I am not sure Republicans have it in them to get into gear-----they might not look like gentlemen and Brian Williams might not like them.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: uno, 1/17/2014 9:28:12 PM     (No. 9696369)

Call it what it really is: Reapercare.
It is intended to assist killing this nation by strangling the country financially and wringing every last nickel and dime out of the middle class!

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The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

The Growing Financial Disaster of Obamacare
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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/19/2014 5:55:20 PM     Post Reply
President Obama asserts that 8 million people have signed up for Obamacare, as though that were something to be proud of. In fact, Obamacare has always been a fiasco from a fiscal perspective–a black hole of subsidies and expanded Medicaid, with largely fictitious mechanisms in place to pay for it. As the number of subsidized participants grows, the disaster gets worse. Charles Blahous explains: Our national discussion…is missing the truly significant story here; what is unfolding before our eyes is a colossal fiscal disaster, poised to haunt legislators and taxpayers for decades to come. It is quite possible that the ACA is

Gospel story of Jesus’ resurrection a
source of deep rifts in Christian religion

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Washington Post, by Kimberley Winston    Original Article
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“On the third day, he rose again.” That line, from the Nicene Creed, is a foundational statement of Christian belief. It declares that three days after Jesus died on the cross, he was resurrected, a glimmer of the eternal life promised to believers. It’s the heart of the Easter story in seven little words. But how that statement is interpreted is the source of some of the deepest rifts in Christianity — and a stumbling block for some Christians, and more than a few skeptics. Did Jesus literally come back from the dead in a bodily resurrection, as many traditionalist

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