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The Christie Question
National Review Online, by Jay Nordlinger

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/12/2014 4:35:26 AM

Earlier this week, there was a spring in conservatives’ step. That was because Chris Christie was in deep doo-doo. His career seemed to be imploding, over Bridgegate. Conservatives hadn’t been so happy since the Obamacare rollout (which wasn’t that long ago). The end of Christie’s career would not be a good thing — for New Jersey, for the Republican party, for conservatism, or for the country. He is a valuable conservative, one of the most talented politicians in America. We are lucky to have him on our side — general side. Lately, I have been more and more impatient with 100-percenters —


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mazeman, 1/12/2014 5:06:54 AM     (No. 9688896)

Nordlinger is a traitor.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/12/2014 5:07:58 AM     (No. 9688898)

#1, did you read it? He´s a fervent Cruz supporter.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Poobah, 1/12/2014 5:47:08 AM     (No. 9688910)

The fact that Nordlinger says that he is a Ted Cruz man doesn’t make him a conservative. If Christie becomes the Republican nominee for president, the heart will go out of the right wing of the party – just like it did with McCain. That’s the Democrat’s dream. It’s the only way they can see to salvage the mess that Obama has created.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 1/12/2014 5:59:39 AM     (No. 9688914)

So, we´re back to the 100 percenters Nordlinger writes about. We´re doomed.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 1/12/2014 6:12:12 AM     (No. 9688918)

FTA "Lately, I have been more and more impatient with 100-percenters — people who have to agree with someone 100 percent in order to consider him any good."

Can someone please tell Nordlinger this is not our problem with Christie? Our problem is that is is beyond obvious that he hates Tea Partiers/the conservative base. Christie wouldn´t even put a Republican in Lautenberg´s old Senate seat.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: suedotsue, 1/12/2014 6:13:23 AM     (No. 9688919)

Articles are framed by their opening paragraphs. Many people are busy and are lucky if they have time to scan the internet for a few sentences here and there about what´s happening in this country. The opening paragraph of this article may be the only one that many read and it will leave impressions. None of them pleasant. The first sentence is even more important than the first paragraph. The first sentence of this piece tells the world that people like myself go through life getting a spring in their step about the sad chain of events that led to Christie´s press conference. This is the line of attack the global warming cartel uses when it snows. They accuse powerless, ripped off taxpayers of having a spring in their step.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Former lurker, 1/12/2014 6:52:24 AM     (No. 9688931)

Anyone who thinks Jay Nordlinger is not conservative has not been reading him. He is making a point that needs to be made. Anyone looking for sainthood in a politician is doomed to disappointment and disillusionment. I was one of the first-on-board Tea Party supporters and I remain one today. I have worked for and voted for the most conservative candidates in every election, I have often been disappointed and occasionally heartbroken. But I love this country too much to sit on the sidelines and carp because my only choice is not pure enough.

Please try to use your energy to get your candidate nominated, but if that perfect candidate doesn´t make it to the general election don´t help with the decline of our country by aiding the party that seems hell-bent on destroying us.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: miceal, 1/12/2014 6:53:10 AM     (No. 9688932)

Christie IS NOT a Conservative. I don´t care how many times "someone" calls him one...he isn´t now and I believe he never has been. Let him stay in his beloved illegal immigrant loving New Jersey.....

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Reply 9 - Posted by: blueline, 1/12/2014 7:28:16 AM     (No. 9688950)

I hear you #7. BTW, would you forward the last paragraph to the "establishment wing" of the GOP please?
Here in TN, I´ve noticed that "100% ers" often go to the polls and vote for the "moderate" nominee. If the TEA "outsider" is the nominee, the establishment takes their toys and goes home.
Elsewhere, Cuccinelli comes to mind as an example; and Ted Cruz...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: kayworthy, 1/12/2014 7:53:21 AM     (No. 9688968)

Christie is as polarizing as Obama. You either love him or you hate him. In fact, I loved him before I hated him. Now I wish he would just go away.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 1/12/2014 7:56:53 AM     (No. 9688972)

Never again will I vote for RINOs and non-conservatives, and that means Christie. Why?

Because Christie chose not to appoint a Republican to fill Lautenberg’s seat.

Because Christie snubbed Romney with his keynote speech.

Because Christie carried on a very public bromance with Obama.

His actions speak louder than his words. Need I say more?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Gretchen, 1/12/2014 7:59:55 AM     (No. 9688976)

Aw, Jay loves Cruz. Gag. That´s his cover for also loving Christie.

And this is the crux of the matter. Those who live and work inside the beltway are so far into the weeds that they miss the larger picture.

Sometimes politics is not about compromise. Sometimes it is about win or lose. Republicans have compromised themselves so much that we are unable to differentiate them from Democrats.

It is only inside the beltway that people can see a difference between the two parties. That is how diseased the political process has become. A pox on them!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/12/2014 8:12:50 AM     (No. 9688992)

Great read, and spot on. This is probably one of the problems plaguing Conservatives at the polling place. Nobody is good enough, so instead, we have 8 years of obama, Hillary or Lizzy Pocohoantis next in ´16.

As far as critics of Christie go (he´s just a sellout RINO, blah blah blah), I have lived in NJ for most of my life. To get anything, just one conservative item done in NJ is a major achievement (e.g. pushing back at the NJEA). I don´t for a minute think that Christie is pro-gay, or anti-gun, or most of the other complaints that "conservatives" complain about. But in politics, as in life you have to pick your battles. So, Christie says "OK gays, do what you want", and to the cops "OK, keep the gun laws you want". And people who claim that Christie is pro-obamaCare, that is completely false. Christie only said he wouldn´t bother joining the now-failed lawsuit against obamaCare, because is would cost several million dollars to do so, and a sufficient number of states had already joined. And he is not "pro-Global Warming" either, just an agnostic, shorthand for "I have bigger fish to fry."

Chris Christie is a proven political corruption fighter, something the country desperately needs, would be a massive shift to the right if he won POTUS. I cannot understand how this job skill is such a small nuance for Conservatives. Seems the Dems sure know about it. That´s why they want him out NOW.

So, I am 100% with Nordlinger. I hope Christie comes back with guns blazing.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: horacer, 1/12/2014 8:22:09 AM     (No. 9688998)

Nordlinger does more to spotlight the forgotten oppressed around the world than anyone. He can say anything he wants and remain a conservative in my book. Perfection doesn´t exist in a politician. Even the beloved Sarah Palin isn´t perfect.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: chillijilli, 1/12/2014 8:40:26 AM     (No. 9689018)

Good God, people. You don´t shoot your allies! Period.
Politician who are *campaigning* give speeches or sound bytes about their very specific political positions. At that time, there is no need for compromise. But it´s different when politicians are *governing.* They absolutely need to compromise---that´s the way our American democracy works. So, realistically, all we can do is look for a politician who will compromise the *least.* Not easy to do without a crystal ball.
I think Nordlinger is trying to make the point that it´s irrational, fanciful and foolish for 100%ers to ignore the realities our elected officials face when they are actually governing.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 1/12/2014 9:33:26 AM     (No. 9689072)

So, according to the grown-ups, when Hillary is the Democratic candidate and if Christie is the.. um... Republican choice, then we will certainly not vote for her- yesssireee, Bob. That´s a great strategy when the left controls the vote count.

It´ll be close though and we´ll be up late on election night. The next morning we´ll just vow to get a different, nicer candidate the next time- one that appeals to those important and oh , so sensitive independents.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/12/2014 9:57:55 AM     (No. 9689113)

Re #16, Christie´s relection of a few months ago was one of the largest Rep victories on record (~20 margin).

Takeaway being, Christie might have figured out the DEM secret sauce called "voter fraud". In his previous job he put over 100 corrupt politicians in jail. Skills like that might come in handy in 2016. Ya think Hillary might cheat?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: yuban, 1/12/2014 11:11:49 AM     (No. 9689207)

Wow, another Conservative hit piece along with tons of posts from Moderates who know so much more than all the rest of mankind combined. I stopped reading after I read "He is a valuable conservative". Go ahead and call me a name. Today it is a 100 percenter, how quaint. Yep, in so many ways, Moderates are just like the Left. Moderates ridicule us, chastise us, blame us for all their loses and then beg us for their votes. Gee, if it were not for us Conservatives you Moderates would have to take some responsibility for your own actions. You had better hope many illegals start voting for you because you are losing Conservative votes left and right.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/12/2014 11:25:43 AM     (No. 9689230)

A poster is a "moderate" if he or she isn´t condemning Jay Nordlinger, for goodness sakes?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: luke21, 1/12/2014 11:36:27 AM     (No. 9689246)

We get our way zero percent of the time right now, and twits like this dude want us to kiss Judas´ ring. There is alays a disconnect in this type of writing. We have Graham, McCain, Boehner, McConnell, and a host of wolves and thieves on our side cozying up to the media and Democrats. But if we try to move things a different way, we are unreasonable.

This guy may say he´s a Cruz guy, but his talk is Rinoesque. Karl Rove might as well have written this.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 1/12/2014 12:32:11 PM     (No. 9689306)

Prior to reading this Nordlinger piece, I had a great deal of respect for him. In fact, it´s the only reason I read it. And I have carefully read every post on this thread.

Nordlinger is only asking us not to join with the media, Democrats, and those who would clear the field for Hillary in ´16, in attacking Christie. Learn from the Democrats people! Do not join the pack frenzy when one of our own is being savaged. Instead, fight back and defend the victim.

Is Nordlinger truly a Cruz man. I can only say, based on reading him for a very long time, a resounding, "YES!"

I admit to having been swayed by Jay´s arguments. I am an ardent conservative, Tea Partier, close-to-100% man. But I am also a big fan of Kipling´s "softly, softly, catchee monkey" strategy. Let´s consolidate and gain in ´14; in ´16 we´ll run the table.

It probably goes without saying...but, as is my wont, I´ll say it anyway: my respect for Jay Nordlinger -- and for all of you who´ve posted thoughtful comments here -- has increased.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ramona, 1/12/2014 12:55:25 PM     (No. 9689320)

I have a great appreciation and fondness for Jay Nordlinger. I would love to see him (and all the others who rail against the so-called "purity test") to call out establishment Republicans when they attack Conservatives. Is that too much to ask?
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: timsar, 1/12/2014 1:17:52 PM     (No. 9689346)

I sent the following to NRO...

Mr. Nordlinger,

While I agree with a number of your points, I believe you fail to appreciate (or choose to do so) the logic driving the – as you and others call them – 100%’ers. While there is obviously an ideological “checklist” required for the aspiring Democrat politician, you deride those on the right who have similarly distilled their worldview to a relatively short list of “must haves”. A candidate is criticized by this group when he/she clearly violates a major checkpoint item. True, some individuals resort to personal attacks. However, I believe the vast majority of “Tea Partiers” simply react with great disappointment when a person who previously both spoke and acted in solidarity of their beliefs, takes some actions in an opposite direction.

Perhaps it’s the fact we are unwashed and ignorant, but “That’s how Washington works” and “That’s the best we can do” isn’t cutting it with this crowd. They are sick and tired of that excuse and looking for leaders (Cruz, Lee for example) that remain consistent and see the “Politics of Washington” as the main problem.

So sir, while I agree that it’s folly to ignore tactics and the reality of winning battles, you must excuse those who have the right and duty to set high standards when selecting the generals to direct the war. I and most conservative do not want to see Christie destroyed. But if you wish to tag us as “purists” or “100%’rs” because we see him as a McClellan, so be it. We will continue to challenge for and demand a Grant.

Very best regards (I always enjoy reading your posts),

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 1/12/2014 1:38:25 PM     (No. 9689370)

Christie seems to have done wonders as the gov of NJ, and that´s where he belongs, not in the White House.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 1/12/2014 2:05:59 PM     (No. 9689398)

Just so we´re clear: I am so conservative I make GOP moderates´ skin peel. My idea of progress in Washington is Orrin Hatch jumping off the Monument with John McCain and Lindsey Graham under each arm.

Jay Nordlinger is a conservative because I say he is. If my word (or #21´s) isn´t good enough for you, try William F. Buckley, Jr.. Nordlinger is a Buckley conservative, and the Buckley Rule is this: Vote for the most conservative candidate who can win. I still support that Rule.

However, even the Buckley Rule acknowledged that there were some Republicans conservatives would be better off without (for fun, try Googling "Lowell Weicker" and "BuckPAC" sometime). The trick is to work out which ones and when. The goal is to make things more conservative; the tactic should be to primary moderate Republicans who can be safely replaced with more reliably conservative--and viable--alternatives.

Not voting doesn´t do that. It just elects a Democrat. Destroying Chris Christie doesn´t do that. It just elects a Democrat. And this country simply cannot survive any more Democrats than we already have in power.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: jackburton, 1/12/2014 2:23:27 PM     (No. 9689421)

John Cleese, intelligent man that he is, once did a managerial training course that he advertised with a snippet:

A manager asks two employees what time it is. One answers "Morning" while the second says "10:30".

It´s 10:45.

While one person is right and the other wrong, which is more useful?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: absalom, 1/12/2014 3:51:52 PM     (No. 9689485)

As for opinions, insisting that the planets are shaped like cubes rather than spheres, can be your opinion but that categorizes you as a moron. So Nordlinger can have his opinion about Christie ´conservatism´, but his governance is on the record. He is a big government, high tax(the highest in the nation), politically correct Liberal Republican in the Clifford Case and Tom Kean mold who governs a rock solid blue state accordingly. In fact, every governor of Jersey since Wilson has been a lefty, just a matter of degree. Betting here is that were Wm. Buckley alive today, Nordlinger would be looking for a job.

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The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 7:03:28 PM     Post Reply
Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

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