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I helped destroy Falluja in 2004.
I won´t be complicit again

The Guardian (UK), by Ross Caputi

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Posted By:mark34, 1/11/2014 9:30:47 PM

I am having flashbacks to my time as a marine during the second siege of Falluja in 2004. Again, claims are being published that al-Qaida has taken over the city and that a heavy-handed military response is needed to take the city back from the control of terrorists. The first time around, this claim proved to be false. The vast majority of the men we fought against in Falluja were locals, unaffiliated with al-Qaida, who were trying to expel the foreign occupiers from their country. There was a presence of al-Qaida in the city, but they played a minimal and

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 1/11/2014 9:57:27 PM     (No. 9688780)

It´s "Marine", not "marine".

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/12/2014 2:02:37 AM     (No. 9688851)

Troops went into Iraq with little or no training in urban combat,let alone knowing the different tribes of muslims or speaking their language.

I can´t sit here and tell you the difference between a Sunni,Shiite or Baath party muslim,except they could use a bath.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jennie C., 1/12/2014 8:52:06 AM     (No. 9689030)

#1: Not sure, but I don´t think they always capitalize "marine" in England.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 1/12/2014 10:18:09 AM     (No. 9689139)

Like many teenagers rushed through basic military training and sent off to war, this recruit was expecting total support by the populace, hoping to be received as a liberator, and loved by all.

The reality was, of course, Al Qaeda wanted constant de-stabilization, and stirred any-American sentiment throughout the process. Apart from the hate-propaganda of Al Qaeda and their "civilian" followers, the liberators would have received a hearty welcome. Everyone hated Saddam.

The factions continue to be complex and loyalties are shifting as the people try to get a feel for who is going to come out on top. They don´t speak freely in Iraq, except to express anti-Americanism. That is the politically correct stand to take.

Yes, there are multiple bad guys vying for control, as the writer observes. But that in no way supports the idea that our carefully targeted support will be unneeded for the orderly transition of Iraq to a condition of secure self-rule and lasting peace.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 1/12/2014 10:22:35 AM     (No. 9689144)

Ross Caputi, the writer, is mentioned and quoted in an earlier article:

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1108/the_guardian_gives_a_platform_to_a_self_confessed_terrorist_using_cif_to_defend_the_killing_of_us_troops

I have my own concern about lack of remorse based on a recent Guardian Comment is Free article written by an Iraq War veteran who, as free as he walks, insists that what he did in Fallujah was ‘terrorism’ and writes openly in the Guardian, “I, too, support the right of Muslims to defend themselves against US troops, even if that means they have to kill them.”

This shocking statement from Ross Caputi is the kind of dangerous nonsense from someone tied up with the Stop The War Coalition, who recently introduced Noam Chomsky at an event and who seems to have become a Guardian poster boy since his article entitled, ‘I am sorry for the role I played in Fallujah’.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jackburton, 1/12/2014 12:56:15 PM     (No. 9689322)

We went through Fallujah twice. The first time because terrorists (there is no other term) there ambushed contractors escorting Iraqi officials and made inhuman sport of their bodies. OUr troops got pulled back in the 11th hour for political reasons... meaning we had to go back.

You all remember that story. It was fierce. Building to building. Their last redoubt was fully fortified with an extensive tunnel system. When we bombed it, munitions in the tunnels exploded for over an hour and over several neighborhoods. NOT exactly a local group of well meaning political protestors.

Also remember that we found bona fide torture rooms there. Picture books showing the creative use of pliers, blowtorches and clothes irons. And hooks for hanging torturees.

I could say what I think about this dweeb... and get censored for it. You fill in the blanks.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: jackburton, 1/12/2014 1:01:38 PM     (No. 9689329)

BTW, always remember that it´s the Guardian that gives print space to these kinds of stories... and to CAGW (catastropic Anthropogenic Global Warming).

When you see the tag line, consider the source.

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