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The Roberts Trap Is Sprung
American Thinker, by Bill Dunne

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Posted By:DW626, 1/2/2014 3:27:43 AM

One of the most overlooked aspects of the year just ended is the vindication of Chief Justice John Roberts -- a vindication that showed up as the national catastrophe known as ObamaCare got rolling. Roberts may have also doomed Hillary Clinton´s chance to live in the White House again. The chief justice, an appointee of President George W. Bush and reputedly a constitutionalist in his jurisprudence, set his diabolical trap (diabolical to Democrats) on June 28, 2012, when he joined with the four liberal justices on the Supreme Court to uphold the constitutionality of ObamaCare. Conservatives and Republicans across the land

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I dunno, I still remain skeptical, and wish this horrid legislation had died where it should have, at the SCOTUS.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: jj1319, 1/2/2014 3:41:45 AM     (No. 9676258)

Good article. I appreciate the insight and logic. It´s certainly within reason.

I don´t want to play chess with John Roberts.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 1/2/2014 4:05:26 AM     (No. 9676262)

The reasoning of the author is too cute. Roberts made a mistake in upholding KommieKare. To say that he had some long term plan to bring down the Obama administration, is to say that he was ruling outside of the law for political calculation. That might turn out to have been true, but I believe it was excess in deference to the Obama Administration and its KommieKare power grab, not some Machiavellian plan to defeat Obama.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/2/2014 4:06:37 AM     (No. 9676263)

Almost as soon as itcame out thatOCwas going to the SC,lots of liberals began speculating thatRoberts would end up savingObamacare.This was way before the actual decision. I wonder how all these differet people were predicting the same utcome. Maybe someone knew the fix was in way back then.

Ithinkthe writer is giving Roberts too much credit for more or less outsmarting the left.I don´t think Roberts wanted to be the one to invalidate the first black president´s signature issue and sent it back to people to figure it out.
To me,using the commerce clause to invent this scheme is questionable. There was no pre-existing relationship among states that crossed all 50 states.States all have their own rules and regs on insurance.

Mississippi was one of the cheapest insurance states in the country. A big part of that lower rate was medical tort reform.If they allowed people to shop across state lines,everybody would flock to Miss.,setting the stage for more competition and lower prices.The left has completely destroyed competition as a money saver.

Nobody can compete with the bottomless pockets of the government.When your only choice is buying something through the government,you´re screwed.

It remains to be seen if OC is good for the GOP going forward.I seriously doubt it and it sure isn´t teaching people a lesson about big government.The GOP lost the Va. gov.´s race with someone very anti-Obamacare and the dems won with a big mouthed nobody back room punk.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Linda in Seattle, 1/2/2014 4:08:22 AM     (No. 9676264)

Roberts is either incredibly lucky or incredibly shrewd.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 1/2/2014 4:30:48 AM     (No. 9676271)

if it dies under the weight of the non constitutional mandates that Obe is trying to quietly remove from the fight it will not be given a form of CPR to live again very soon.
No one is admitting a law Constitutional as a tax cannot impose a mandate that isn´t a tax The current employer and personal mandates and those requiring the violation of the Bill of Rights are forced compliance to buy insurance not a use tax.
They are illegal.
It will be interesting to see how far Sotomayer will adhere to the ban on forcing the violation of freedom of religion and include these mandates.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: coldoc, 1/2/2014 4:44:31 AM     (No. 9676274)

If indeed J Roberts intended to slap Obama-voting Americans upside the head, it would have been nicer if the collateral damage was not so severe. Time will tell if politically suicidal republicans have the brains to take advantage of this man-caused disaster. I still think he sold out.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 1/2/2014 6:08:25 AM     (No. 9676301)

The problem with that approach is that Obamacare has already destroyed the system we has for paying for healthcare and replaced it with a system which does not work. If Justice Roberts had ruled it unconstitutional we would still have the system that was in place at the time. Obviously Bill Dunne is not one of the people who lost his health insurance through Obamacare (or he doesn´t realize it yet).

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Gordon Mills, 1/2/2014 6:15:44 AM     (No. 9676304)

John Roberts is not that smart. He was just playing Washington politics.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/2/2014 6:19:41 AM     (No. 9676306)

I would very much like to believe that John Roberts had it all figured out and voted in the best interest of the country under the law. But, I still suspect he was protecting the Court instead of the nation.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 1/2/2014 6:39:13 AM     (No. 9676320)

Agree with #7. Giving that much credit to Roberts is ridiculous, especially when millions have lost their health insurance.

Roberts was running scared; it was reported that he changed his opinion very late, and no amount of discussion with him by the Scalia side would work.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 1/2/2014 6:47:30 AM     (No. 9676323)

Rendering a judgment for political reasons should disqualify any judge from office.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: pgvoisin, 1/2/2014 7:02:01 AM     (No. 9676330)

Congress passes laws that do not solve problems but garner votes.

The Supreme Court is not in the business of "correcting" bad laws and blaming Roberts for dealing with a crap-law is missing the point. All they can do is stop an illegal law not a stupid one.

We deserve the laws we get. If we don´t like them, maybe we need to vote for different people.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: lewis1940, 1/2/2014 7:08:02 AM     (No. 9676335)

I Think that Roberts had other reasons, maybe he was being blackmailed as I have read. The AFA will hurt many people. If 0bama had half a heart he would call for its repeal before more damage is done. The author has good insight as to how this is playing out.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: MissMann, 1/2/2014 7:12:06 AM     (No. 9676340)

Well, isn´t that just too precious of John Roberts.

What about all the folks who are going to be wiped out by higher premiums and outrageous deductibles (I just read the open letter of the mom of 2, stuck in the nightmare of 0-care...).

All of us lucky enough to have employer-provided insurance better get all our health work done quickly. Next year it will be our turned to be wiped "Justice" Robert´s shrewd maneuvering.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: jinx, 1/2/2014 7:12:09 AM     (No. 9676341)

I certainly hope he´s right. The worst thing that could happen would be for Hillary to be elected. We need to demand term limits so that Socialists like Reid and Pelosi will never again be able to control Congress and us.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 1/2/2014 8:22:59 AM     (No. 9676416)

There is so much wrong with this writer´s assessment it is hard to know where to start, but...

--Poster #10 is right, IMO. Roberts simply folded in the face of pressure exerted the Democrat/Media complex.

--By coming up with his tax rationale Roberts effectively re-wrote this horrid law from the bench, something no responsible jurist has has any right to do.

--Poster #7 nails it.

--A "Great Awakening" on the part of this electorate? Very doubtful. Most people may have a general understanding that something is wrong, but IMO they´re likely to look to the same statists who messed things up to fix them up. That is what the ´Rats are counting on.




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Reply 17 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 1/2/2014 8:33:43 AM     (No. 9676441)

It is nearly impossible to convince people that they have been saved from a disaster that didn´t happen. Unless these individuals are at least somewhat impacted by the impending doom they will simply go on their merry way and those who saved them will never be recognized. O-care is hurting a lot of people, but the ultimate consequences are still to play out.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: reformationmama, 1/2/2014 8:42:25 AM     (No. 9676451)

Once I got over the shock of the SCOTUS´s ruling last year, I came to the conclusion that John Roberts was right and the other nine justices were wrong. He called a spade a spade - money paid to progressive health care is a tax. Ted Cruz, et.al. had the right idea de-fund the law, not abolish it. Let it starve to death due to lack of funds. Mitch McConnell whined that it couldn´t be done, so we shouldn´t try. We must continue to attempt to repeal the tax, and send Hillary/ObamaCare into the burning abyss of really bad ideas.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: miceal, 1/2/2014 9:32:32 AM     (No. 9676555)

Sorry but Roberts should be impeached and removed once a Conservative Administration takes over. He was wrong on the ruling and has lost the respect of the Conservative Majority....

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/2/2014 10:45:18 AM     (No. 9676690)

This was NOT a trap...it is pure luck things turned out this way...or Obie screwed himself, a posture not unheard of in the sordid politics of the left.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bugboy, 1/2/2014 10:54:53 AM     (No. 9676710)

Bwaaaaaaahahaha! They didn´t see it coming!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: lil dotty, 1/2/2014 12:50:52 PM     (No. 9676838)

Op, thank you for posting. At the time of SC decision it as felt that the CJ had given much thought to his decision. Be it blackmail pressure, or a move in a chess game--the man had a plan...that much was shown to those who would seek. Just as a ´wise Latina´ can rule contrary to popular belief, so, too, can a Chief Justice rule. It may come to pass that he ruled correctly and did what he thought best to stop evil in the best way possible. Awaking our country to the perils of such atrocities. Not a lesson one would soon forget.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/2/2014 1:04:53 PM     (No. 9676859)

No too long ago, some friends and I were discussing USSC and Obamacare and had the same thought.

We refer to it as "cosmic justice."

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Reply 24 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 1/2/2014 1:16:27 PM     (No. 9676872)

FTA: "It is not our job," he added, "to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." Wow. Tough love.

Roberts was cowardly in making that statement. Clearly the voters may at any time vote into office a candidate who turns out to be a violator of his constitutional limits.

That was the only question before the Court. And Roberts failed miserably, despite the narrative attempted by writer Bill Dunne.

From the Bible (Romans 3:8):
"And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just."

The ruling was evil, setting a precedent that has no rational limits on governmental claims of power over our economic life. We must never allow a court to "do evil, so that a good result *might* later occur."

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/2/2014 4:40:43 PM     (No. 9677119)

The author completely missed the most important aspect of "The Roberts Trap!"

Obamacare was written in the Democrat majority Senate, and passed over to the Democrat controlled House for rubber stamp approval. This transfer was done under a sleight of hand known as "Budget Reconciliation" meaning, the bill would have zero impact on the budget. Remember Civics 101, spending bills can only originate in the House of Representatives. The GAO and others testified to the House that Obamacare would actually "save" money all based on crooked numbers provided by the Obamunists in the WH. It was passed into law along a straight Party line vote.

SCJ Roberts called Obamacare a "Tax".
There is already a lawsuit underway from conservative Congress Members challenging the law´s legality based on the fact that IF Obamacare is a Tax then it could NOT originate in the Senate. A SC decision on this is straightforward. Democrat lawyers arguing the case accepted SCJ Roberts´ opinion that it was Constitutional as a tax, even though they themselves were reluctant to call it that changing their minds several times during the trial. However, if it IS a tax, then it was brought to law in an un-Constitutionally.

Now THAT is the real, "Roberts Trap."


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Reply 26 - Posted by: NYbob, 1/2/2014 5:44:40 PM     (No. 9677185)

Sure, but simply pointing out that imposing a ´universal´ law on part of the public while exempting others via pretty obvious graft, THAT was too hard. Yes, this way of is much better.

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President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
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A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of


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