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Why Obama should pardon Snowden
Los Angeles Times, by Jonathan Turley

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 12/22/2013 11:39:09 PM

Former CIA Director R. James Woolsey weighed in last week on the subject of Edward Snowden. Asked about calls of clemency for the former National Security Agency contractor, Woolsey insisted that Snowden should be "hanged by the neck until he is dead." Woolsey reflects the current thinking in Washington: reform for the NSA and the rope for Snowden. However, it may be time for President Obama to show real leadership and acknowledge that Snowden is the reason for the current reform push. It may be time to pardon Edward Snowden. He has almost certainly committed criminal acts in removing and

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If National Intelligence Director James Clapper can go before Congress and outright lie about the NSA surveillance programs, and not be fired and then be put on a panel by 0bama to review these illegal actions, then Snowden can be treated like a "hacker" and hired to suggest ways to catch the likes of himself.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 12/22/2013 11:51:45 PM     (No. 9665032)

Yes, Snowden is the impetus for reform (whatever that is). Get on with it. But, at the same time, prosecute

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Reply 2 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 12/22/2013 11:53:44 PM     (No. 9665034)

Contiuing interrupted post.
...the sneak thief for his lawless disclosures.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/23/2013 1:21:49 AM     (No. 9665067)

If you had to choose between Snowden and Zippy for honesty, who would you pick ?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/23/2013 1:26:46 AM     (No. 9665069)

Hanging first, pardon after.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/23/2013 2:40:56 AM     (No. 9665082)

I´m trying real hard to look at this objectively and can´t.
Snowden wouldn´t even be an issue if Obama was on the up and up on his behind the scenes activities.If only releasing 1% of what he has caused such an uproar,just imagine what the other 99 would do.

Even if they gave Snowden a pardon,they would have to find him guilty of something first.If he got amnesty,then Pvt."Chelsea" Manning should get a reprieve also.

I don´t know all the details but it seems like a dirty trick to make public Bush´s spying records.Are they saying look here Bush did the same thing?

If I were Snowden,I´d be very cautious about any deal offered by Obama and his creepy admin.Then you always have the possibility of "make it look like an accident".

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bkt23, 12/23/2013 4:40:17 AM     (No. 9665102)

To those who think Snowden is guilty of something, please answer this question: How could he have exposed these issues legally?

I have worked in this field and there is no way, except by working internally with the chain of command in your agency, to do it. Tick off the right people and you end up fired. Blab about anything without proof and you end up in prison.

What Snowden did was right. The way he did it was the only way there is to do it.

Snowden deserves to get his passport and citizenship back and all the goons at the NSA who participated in this should be, per that idiot Woolsey, "hanged by the neck until they are dead".

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/23/2013 5:21:52 AM     (No. 9665121)

Barry´s too busy pardoning demonrat felon cronies.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 12/23/2013 7:10:07 AM     (No. 9665185)

Do you notice? Turley has been running to be a future Supreme Justice lately.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Chillijilli, 12/23/2013 7:54:58 AM     (No. 9665235)

How come some posters who rail against the media daily for their deception and dishonesty suddenly believe everything the media reports about Snowden?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/23/2013 8:06:01 AM     (No. 9665247)

History will prove Snowden a hero. Barry could no more pardon Snowden, than he could
EVER speak honestly. Impossible notion, just
to try toget public attention. Zero on Zero.
We need more whistleblowers in our debt reckless, crazed government.
Duck Dynasty ia another form of world improving whistleblowing: describing an honest life !
Scott Walker helped to cure a corrupt state.
Steve Jobs, like Bill Gates, created a new
life for untold millions without government,
without media indoctrination. There is so much good power out there working for a better world. Recognize it, enjoy it, support it, of course.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/23/2013 8:12:37 AM     (No. 9665253)

Even republicans have LoFo´s, #9. Headline grazers, RINO´s, people driven by emotion are not exclusive to Dems...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lifelonghuman, 12/23/2013 8:37:02 AM     (No. 9665292)

Snowden is no hero. I´ve had the TS clearance, too. There is something like an oath involved. Even toddlers know what the word secret means. There were other means of exposing NSA activity. The press loves this stuff. Remember, he downloaded millions of files. What were his plans for the other info? Damaging the U.S.! It´s naive to think you´re only damaging the government and its agencies and not the entire country.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Felixcat, 12/23/2013 9:18:21 AM     (No. 9665356)

Maybe the real issue here is not what Snowden did or didn´t do or how he should have exposed it, but why is the government of the people, by the people and for the people collecting so mcuh information on us We The People. Are we the enemy?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: texsupreme, 12/23/2013 9:20:43 AM     (No. 9665359)

What would that method be, #12?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/23/2013 9:36:03 AM     (No. 9665381)

Snowdon was an Obama supporter who believed in his promises to reign in the NSA. Obama could have fulfilled his promises with an executive order and simple announcement without doing anything illegal and everyone would cheer. Obama did none of that and Snowdon was stonewalled in the organization when he raised alarms. Snowdon has been vindicated by a judge, by public opinion re the NSA abuses, and the revelations are shown to be more true than Clappers testimony before Congress. How can a lone citizen restrain a run away lawless government? With great difficulty and personal sacrifice. Snowdon has paid that price. Why would their be sympathy for Ellsworth when he makes trouble for Nixon and distain for Snowdon when he draws attention to Obama´s lies? This is a formal crime but it would not have been necessary if Obama was doing his job hence he deserves a pardon. Obama is no leader and won´t give him the pardon. He will continue to hunt him down as best he can and make it every more clear that all of the above is true!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Salt5792, 12/23/2013 9:44:06 AM     (No. 9665386)

Snowden should be a drone target ASAP.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: toddh, 12/23/2013 10:31:38 AM     (No. 9665440)

"As someone who has held a top-secret clearance since the Reagan administration"

That right there is a big part of the problem: journolist-lawyer-traitor types who hold clearances.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: zorba, 12/23/2013 10:42:37 AM     (No. 9665452)

Snowden gave secrets to our enemies. He continues to do so. He´s no different from traitors who gave intel to the Nazis. He would have given away details of the D-Day Invasion, had he been around in those days. This "hero", this "whistleblower" will be responsible for the deaths of many Americans when -- not if -- the next terrorist event hits. And the people who support this scum now will be the first to cry: "Why didn´t the NSA connect the dots!"

Disgusting.



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Reply 19 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/23/2013 1:31:22 PM     (No. 9665658)

I have mixed feelings about Snowdon. I´m glad that he exposed zippy´s illegal spying on millions of innocent Americans, but I also fear what else he may be able to expose to our enemies.

BTW, top secret security clearance is no big deal. Thousands of government bureaucrats have it. I once had clearance that was a couple of steps above TS and while working overseas I remember seeing cable traffic which was rated TS and then seeing the exact same info in the International Herald Tribune the same day.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/23/2013 1:46:42 PM     (No. 9665682)

No matter how you look at it, a pardon would set a bad precedent for the future would be Snowdens out there who are willing to sabotage US policies by stealing and releasing highly classified information in violation of the law.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 12/23/2013 5:46:44 PM     (No. 9665882)

All of these men have laid down with the viper, the LIAR, who if given a chance will devour them all.

Obama is a vindictive and powerful hater of those who strike out at him. Snowden is better off where he is and our country is better off knowing the lengths our Government is willing to go so that Americans can be spied upon and Freedom lost.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bohallx, 12/23/2013 6:19:01 PM     (No. 9665904)

So terribly many people want to give Obama yet another chance to just not enforce the law.

He´s alreading pardoning dope peddlers who kill children.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/23/2013 6:49:55 PM     (No. 9665930)

How is Snowden different from the Rosenbergs?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Lalo, 12/23/2013 7:06:34 PM     (No. 9665940)

I´ve been among the vocal apologists for Snowden here. And I would not like to see the book thrown at him and hope that he gets off fairly lightly within the parameters of whatever laws he has broken. That said - I don´t see how he could be pardoned without signaling a free-for-all for Anonymous and Occupy types or foreign agents fronting as such. I think he should wend his way through the system and that it should be up to the judges and juries how far to pardon him.


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