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Veterans Rip Paul Ryan over
Budget´s Military Pension Cuts

Breitbart´s Big Government, by Mary Chastain

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Posted By:mikkins2, 12/21/2013 11:57:51 AM

Veterans and conservatives are expressing outrage toward House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI). The cuts to retired service members’ pensions embedded in the budget deal cut by him and Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) elicited an overwhelming surge of social media responses.{SNIP} Ryan initially claimed that disabled and injured veterans’ pensions would be exempt from the cuts—a claim he then scrubbed from an official House Budget Committee document two days before the House vote on the budget deal last Thursday. Ryan and Murray now call the fact that wounded warriors are not exempt from pension

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Ryan´s spokeman, Kevin Seifert, yesterday was quoted saying " the defense community agree that addressing the growth in military compensation costs is critical to maintaining a strong national defense.”

There it is folks. K-Street lobbyists a.k.a. defense community suggesting cutting military member´s benefits rather then cut spending for overprice hardware. Ryan had to give Murry something and he chose to protect his benefactors over military service men and woman.

And your still a Republican because?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: eoddad, 12/21/2013 12:15:15 PM     (No. 9663199)

As a 30 year navy, 70% disabled veteran I´m upset with what Ryan is doing to veterans, many of them who have nothing BUT their VA check, but I´m just as angry about his sell out on Immigration that will be happening soon.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero, 12/21/2013 12:16:16 PM     (No. 9663202)

Lets get real folks, we have got to start voting for and against Politicians based on what they do not what they say or how handsome, ugly, ethnicity or sexual orientation there is connected to them.

I have three reps in Congress and frankly they are all slimy illusionists and need to be fired.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 12/21/2013 12:29:57 PM     (No. 9663224)

Poor Paulie Nonuts - - he didn´t know what was happening to his own budget. No, wait - - Patty Murray tricked him! Yeah, that´s it - - she´s so smart and clever. What could Paulie do?

The poor RINOs - - they´re so misunderstood.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Peacekeeper_US, 12/21/2013 12:30:44 PM     (No. 9663226)

They´re all alike...not a dime´s worth of difference in any of ´em! Merry Christmas!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/21/2013 12:36:22 PM     (No. 9663235)

And thus the betrayal begins. Our illegitimate and bankrupt government cannot possibly deliver on all of the false promises they made, and eventually everyone except the freeloaders will be put on an ice floe and shoved into the sea.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: lazyman, 12/21/2013 12:40:50 PM     (No. 9663245)

The obligations to the working people are going down as the entitlements to the bums are going up. Great system that community organizing.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/21/2013 12:47:28 PM     (No. 9663254)

It appears that Ryan is a social justice guy who would be pleased as punch to take away veteran´s earned benefits and reprogram them into benefits for amnestied aliens and their foreign family members. Any service member or veteran who would vote for Ryan in the future is a political moron.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 12/21/2013 12:53:28 PM     (No. 9663264)

friends of mine keep asking who will be the contender in 2016..
stories like this keep me saying..
"we don´t know.. but it WON´T be anyone they are talking about now.."



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Reply 9 - Posted by: F16 guy, 12/21/2013 12:56:58 PM     (No. 9663268)

If only there was some way to find the money to pay our veterans:

1. A study by the St. Louis Federal Reserve released last week found that of the $108 billion paid out in unemployment benefits in 2011, some $3.3 billion was paid out dishonestly The largest share of the fraud payments—$2.2 billion—went to people who were still working.

2. Barry Sotero´s Hawaii vacation will cost taxpayers an estimated $4 million

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Reply 10 - Posted by: happywarrior, 12/21/2013 1:03:32 PM     (No. 9663276)

What defense community? Not mine! Not for one second!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: US Veteran, 12/21/2013 1:11:25 PM     (No. 9663288)

Sadly, thanks to barack obama and his regime, 51% + of the people in this country are on the public dole... what did you expect was going to happen....illegals, welfare parasites, freeloaders, and fraudsters are now the majority of the voting bloc... so who are the thieving politicians gonna pander to?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Moritz55, 12/21/2013 1:40:57 PM     (No. 9663338)

Paul Ryan is one of the good guys, but not one of the perfect guys. Unlike our current president, he admitted his mistake and outlined the way it will be corrected. Be disappointed, even angry, if you must, but he doesn´t deserve this nasty piling on. Breitbart presents one side, but this isn´t the whole story, and the suppositions are just that. If we keep cannibalizing our own, we will just hand the Dems another election in 2014. If that happens, may still feel very virtuous about our hardcore ideological purity, but the country will not be one bit better off.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/21/2013 2:09:40 PM     (No. 9663382)

Paul Ryan deserves all the outrage that is coming his way. This should be a career ender for him or it will keep happening. A mistake! It is a mistake to ram these bills through so fast nobody including the authors know what is in them. Next up Obama signs the budget bill with the vet pension cuts and refuses to sign the follow up bill with the "fix" if that makes cuts to illegal alien graft! The reason the vets are gouged is that they are loyal americans, a smaller number, and not generally Obama supporters. The RATS do not allow their base constituents to be touched and the GOP needs to learn this.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/21/2013 2:10:01 PM     (No. 9663383)

Well said, #12. I remain an admirer of Paul Ryan, not of each of his positions, but of the overall man and his economic mission.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/21/2013 2:10:45 PM     (No. 9663386)

Paul Ryan has turned into the best party whip the Democratic Party has.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 12/21/2013 2:18:26 PM     (No. 9663404)

What a huge disappointment Ryan has turned out to be. And to think I once thought highly of him and thought he was trustworthy. What is really galling is that the wonderful 0bamaphones cost taxpayers $2.2 billion. All the other freebies the lazy freeloaders (that would include illegals) receive is outrageous and immoral. It is absolutely sickening and outrageous that our military members have to suffer because members of the Republican party don´t have the cojones to stand up to the Democrats. This government is so lawless, corrupt and out of control I don´t know how we fix it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/21/2013 2:33:03 PM     (No. 9663434)

The fact of the matter is until Ryan´s "mistake" has been corrected, no service members or veterans or their family members should vote for him. If they do vote for him before that happens, the "mistake" will never be corrected.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/21/2013 2:50:58 PM     (No. 9663456)

US military history shows the US has won because of the bravery and training of our soldiers, not because of the superiority of our weapons. To change the contractual pay and benefits to raise money for weapons systems is disgraceful. This has been an Obama goal for 4 years and Paul Ryan helps him make it possible. In the process, he took the only cap in spending passed into law over the same period of time off the books.

Ryan is saying he´ll get them back. Reid and Obama are saying they´ll continue the emergency unemployment benefits. Who do you believe will be successful? How much more will it cost?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/21/2013 3:26:43 PM     (No. 9663504)

Over 100 times, Obama has closed off the military golf course so HE can play.
During the brief shutdown, VETS were locked out of their memorials. Now a Republican signs on to cut their retirement, including wounded Vets. They are coming back from Afghanistan maimed and crippled, as they did from Iraq. They are being used up then thrown on the trash heap. WE need to ensure that they are treated BETTER than illegal Border crashers.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steelbreeze, 12/21/2013 3:47:24 PM     (No. 9663528)

start with congressional cost of living and then do away with their retirement benefits then cut all civil government employees pay,retirement and benefits then and only come and talk to me about military and veterans.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Ricktutt, 12/21/2013 4:37:39 PM     (No. 9663577)

Very disappointed in Paul Ryan. Thought he was a conservative!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: TXknitter, 12/21/2013 4:57:15 PM     (No. 9663593)

I have thought about this. I find it makes no sense to on the one hand applaud Ryan´s intellect as we have been told he´s the brightest bulb in Congress on budgetary issues and then, that oops, the rather dimwitted Patty Murray outfoxed him on this agreement and it´s a "mistake." You have to really, really, really want to give Ryan a pass to fall for that line of logic. No. There are some decisions/votes an elected official makes and we get to see the real man behind the PR mask. Paul Ryan sold the military down the river. He did. Now do we stand with the military or this ambitious sell-out? I know the answer at my house.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: FunOne, 12/21/2013 5:26:57 PM     (No. 9663620)

The wrath of the veterans and their family members should not be totally directed at Paul Ryan in the next election. They need to remember his democrat friends as well.

Sorry, but this kind of a "mistake" is not overlooked, even if corrected. Ryan has seriously injured himself politically unless he flips to democrat.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: marthaville, 12/21/2013 6:16:53 PM     (No. 9663666)

All the comments here make it sound as though the bill reduces the pensions of retired military personnel. That is not what the bill does. It reduces the COLA for future retirees by one percentage point. If the COLA is 3%, the new retirees get 2%. That is not worth the fanfare expended by the critics.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Penney, 12/21/2013 7:09:37 PM     (No. 9663714)

Ryan´s betrayal demonstrates that RINOS simply cannot be trusted!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Starlady, 12/21/2013 7:30:35 PM     (No. 9663730)

I knew Paul Ryan was lying when I saw him on Hannity the night the House passed the budget bill. He was talking even faster than he normally does while trying to sell what a great deal he had brokered. I will not knowingly vote for someone who looks you in the eye and lies. Paul Ryan has lost his integrity, and is a betrayer. I will not vote for him if he runs for higher office.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/21/2013 8:06:50 PM     (No. 9663763)

#24. Even at a 1% reduction in the COLA, WHY would the military be singled out? Congress gets automatic pay raises unless they introduce a bill to stop the pay raise.(They don´t).
Is the military at least EQUAL to the person on social security? Are they to be considered the lesser of the two?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/21/2013 8:45:53 PM     (No. 9663796)

#24. One percent tallies up to a lot of money out of the pockets of retired NCO´s and field grade officers over a twenty year period of time.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: mikkins2, 12/21/2013 9:37:06 PM     (No. 9663856)

Oh, dont forget to add this to your list of why your P.O.ed at Washington:

"The (Defense) bill also allows the annual raise for service members to be lowered to 1 percent in 2014, by not taking a position on it. The House-passed bill had included a 1.8 percent raise. Congress blocked a number of cost-cutting proposals the Pentagon had requested, including a new round of base closures or increases to TRICARE, the military’s health program."

http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=765623

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 12/21/2013 10:01:17 PM     (No. 9663880)

#14, what is Ryan´s mission? It isn´t cutting spending: The sequester would have actually cut spending if Paul Ryan had done nothing. Instead, we´re reducing military pensions and playing games about future cuts.

Paul Ryan is, literally, worse than useless. He is yet another GOP congressional misrepresentative. You apparently can´t get enough of Republicans like this. I´ve had more than my fill.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/22/2013 4:39:40 AM     (No. 9664021)

It´s a cut to any increases in pension pay. I am FOR the military and agree they should cut money going to liberal organizations instead of the military but hey, stupids voted these monsters in power. Now we´re all eating it and some Conservatives have to go along with it. This may not have happened IF we had voted more Conservatives into the HOUSE AND SENATE. But now, our votes show what they wanted...so now, we eat it.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/22/2013 7:02:02 AM     (No. 9664065)

Ryan & Murray should have cut congressional salaries instead. They don´t earn their overcompensation anyway. The country would have rejoiced and the parties will still be going on.

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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