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Insurers show no backbone as White House
keeps moving ACA goalposts

National Review Online, by Jonah Goldberg

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Posted By:Toledo, 12/21/2013 6:55:24 AM

When will the insurers revolt? It’s a question that’s been popping up more and more. On the surface, the question answers itself. We’re talking about pinstriped insurance-company executives, not Hells Angels. One doesn’t want to paint with too broad a brush, but if you were going to guess which vocations lend themselves least to revolutionary zeal, actuaries rank slightly behind embalmers. Still, it’s hard not to wonder how much more these people are willing to take. Even an obedient dog will bite if you kick it enough. Since Obamacare’s passage, the administration has constantly moved the goalposts on the industry.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/21/2013 7:04:49 AM     (No. 9662652)

Are we a Duck Dynasty vs Wuss Wagon nation.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bridgepard, 12/21/2013 7:10:47 AM     (No. 9662658)

In a banana republic one never disobeys the supreme leader. They have been strongly encouraged to play ball. They know what that means.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/21/2013 7:11:05 AM     (No. 9662659)

Pretty hard to show backbone when you´re an invertebrate.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MirJoy, 12/21/2013 7:17:07 AM     (No. 9662664)

Didn´t I read that the insurance executives had "a meeting" not so long ago at the White House?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: 4freedom, 12/21/2013 7:19:33 AM     (No. 9662666)

Have to agree with #2, you go against the Gestapo, you will be punished, just ask Valerie.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: lilo, 12/21/2013 7:26:10 AM     (No. 9662673)

Insurers haven´t figured it out yet?

Neither have Republicans.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: M2, 12/21/2013 7:31:24 AM     (No. 9662680)

If hospitals, doctors and insurers don´t follow the news cycles, how are they supposed to know all of this?......

Then, just last week, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced that she was “urging” insurers to ignore both their contracts and the law and simply cover people on the honor system – as if they were enrolled and paid up.

She wants partners in crime; "ignore the law" is something her POTUS does, so she and POTUS want others to break the law? Nice.

She also wants doctors and hospitals to take patients, regardless of whether they are in a patient’s insurance network or even if the patient is properly insured at all.

And who is supposed to keep doctors and hospitals in business with non-paying patients?

Just go ahead and extend the deadline for paying, she urged insurers; we’ll work out the paperwork later.

Since everything seems to change from week to week, how does this colossal pile of wreckage get sorted out?

Democrats up for re-election must be livid. I hope so. If they are, they will know how the rest of us feel.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 12/21/2013 7:33:46 AM     (No. 9662684)

The insurance companies aren´t used to relying on PR agencies but they should start.

They should dig their heels in and claim, very loudly and very clearly, that they are following the law as written, just as we are obliged to observe speed limits and traffic lights.

Let the Obamaites explain how and why the insurers should put ´directives´ before statute.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 12/21/2013 7:48:06 AM     (No. 9662707)

The insurers? Holy mackerel where in the heck is congress? Why aren´t Republicans mounting a massive information campaign to let American citizens know they actually care about the rule of law? We´re all sitting out here wondering if the GOP is cool with this.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 12/21/2013 7:56:24 AM     (No. 9662723)

Is he President Obama or King Obama? That is the question.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Poobah, 12/21/2013 8:03:35 AM     (No. 9662733)

This article was previously posted and was included as a must read.

By:StormCnter, 12/18/2013 5:19:17 AM

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum, 12/21/2013 8:25:44 AM     (No. 9662766)

I believe the insurers realize that the free market is dead and their only choice is compliance with the government. They know where this is leading. I would hope that Republicans are reaching out to them to convince them they have the solution and it is free market based. If they are not, then they are complicit in this disaster.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: wtm, 12/21/2013 9:00:08 AM     (No. 9662814)

The Insurers, like many in the media, do not understand that they are being used by this tyranny.
The end game on the insurers is to put them out of business, and install "Single Payer".

But then maybe they already have been told that , at the White House meeting ??

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Reply 14 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/21/2013 10:02:58 AM     (No. 9662955)

Risk calculating insurance actuaries are the back up system of free enterprise. These guys know exactly how risky it would be to just plain SPEAK OUT to their millions of longtime customers. They know and sell risk !

Obama´s scheming a public relations comeback of lies to get young healthy people to pay for old sick people.

Why not the insurance people speak directly to choices that exist for all their faithful customers who are being raped by government ? Insurers know the risk of offering something better, and know the risk of whistleblowing
Against Obama Washington Congress Media corruption

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Mushroom, 12/21/2013 10:05:13 AM     (No. 9662958)

With all due respect to our kind hostess, Insurers know exactly how to play Lucy and the football. They are normally holding the ball!
Is any of this right, no. But they aren´t innocents they expected to profit from a captive market. The mistake was trusting Obama.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/21/2013 10:49:34 AM     (No. 9663032)

I´ve got a long and true story about buying an insurance company that ends with the Clintons sticking a shiv in my back, my investment group running for the hills and me on the front pages of the top five newspapers.

Because we bucked the System and had a wildly intelligent idea how to handle health insurance a better way.

Insurance companies are the very definition of evil.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: marthaville, 12/21/2013 11:29:02 AM     (No. 9663121)

They took Obama´s deal and he turned on them. Anyway, the individual policy business is not where they make their money. It is in the corporate insurance plans. Anyway, Obama will bail them out in the end. That´s what the $63 per insured per year is for.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/21/2013 11:57:30 AM     (No. 9663172)

If the insurance companies haven´t figured out yet that Obama and his crew are out to sabotage as many people´s health care insurance as possible, and destroy the current US health care insurance industry, so that the progressives can move on to implementing a single payer government run health care system for just about everybody they are morons.

Of course there will always be a first class private health care system for the elites and the rich and famous, and anyone will be able to join that system, as long as they can pay for it out of their own pockets.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: JustRight, 12/21/2013 12:14:49 PM     (No. 9663196)

Insurance companies, and that includes the AARP which backed this fiasco, all thought they were going to make bundles of money. Instead they are learning that when you dance with the devil you get your toes stepped on!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Grounded, 12/21/2013 12:29:04 PM     (No. 9663219)

The insurance companies made a deal with the Devil and now thy are finding out what the frog learned when he made his deal with the scorpion: the Devil does what he does because that´s his nature.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/21/2013 12:29:19 PM     (No. 9663221)

One would think that these "insurance executives" would be able to see that Obozocare is going to destroy the American healthcare system and that the government will step in as the provider for all healthcare. (single payer) After all, we here already know that that is the dims goal. And the insurers will be cut completely out of the loop. As such, all of those groups that have endorsed Obozocare will end up loosing big time. That includes the insurance co.´s, doctor organizations, hospital organizations, the AARP, and everyone else who thought they would make huge profits from Obozocare. If it were implemented as written, they just might have. But as the American public learns more and more about it and dims facing re-election are scared to death by what is happening, those profits are flying out the window. And I don´t have any feelings for them. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bohallx, 12/21/2013 12:44:55 PM     (No. 9663251)

Insurance companies themselves buy insurance with special companies called reinsurers and insurance underwriters.

The companies that seem so oblivious to what ObamaKKKare whipsawing are all reinsured and underwritten.

Those guys, now, are the ones going nuts.

I think it´s insurance underwriting that´s Obama´s target. Much of it is headquartered in Indianapolis. The medical appliance industry is also heavily lodged in Indiana.

Think of Obama as nothing but another Chicago gangster seeking new territory to loot, and I think you´d have a good picture of the guy ~ not a cappo, certainly not a cappo di tutti capo, but a soldier who will do whatever it takes to steal.

He´s after Indiana.

Now, who´s his boss.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jglas, 12/21/2013 12:55:49 PM     (No. 9663266)

This should be a heads up to all industries, if the government promises to force everyone to buy your product and all you have to do is knuckle under and make your product meet their specifications, run away as fast as you can. If you submit you will no longer be a businessman, you will be a government flunky.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: NotaBene, 12/21/2013 1:11:12 PM     (No. 9663286)

The American Medical Association and the AARP also helped bring ObamaDeath upon US.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: david in cal, 12/21/2013 1:33:15 PM     (No. 9663329)

"if you were going to guess which vocations lend themselves least to revolutionary zeal, actuaries rank slightly behind embalmers."

Speaking as an actuary, I must admit that there´s some truth to this insult.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: DiverDan, 12/21/2013 3:48:41 PM     (No. 9663529)

#9 "Where are the Republicans on this?"

They´re too busy getting the immigration sellout party organized with the libs. Repeal of Obamacare is just a distant memory.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: larryp, 12/21/2013 3:57:02 PM     (No. 9663535)

If there is a claim, say some one dies or is a vegetable and thus the claim is big. The first thing questioned is the moved off with out underlying authority means to me that there was no insurance as there was no provision for that and in effect the insured the doc or the hosp
would not be covered.
so the insurance co is off the hook for paying the claim.
Has this been figured into Obama changing paragraphs

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Reply 28 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/21/2013 9:48:23 PM     (No. 9663863)

Mega-corporations are an integral part of the ruling class oligarchy. Washington DC will continue enabling insurance companies to rip off consumers as long as their corporate partners contribute mega-bucks to Washington politicians.

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Republican David Jolly won the special election to fill the House seat left vacant by the death of his former boss, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.). With nearly all of the votes counted Tuesday night, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Alex Sink’s 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. Sink lost the 2010 governor’s race to Rick Scott. The Democratic Party sunk extensive ad funding into the congressional battle, and DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) tried to paint the loss as a positive. “Republican special interest groups poured in millions to hold onto a Republican

Police: Violent home invasion
one of worst attacks in Madison

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WKOW-TV [Madison, WI], by Jennifer Kliese    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/12/2014 10:59:14 AM     Post Reply
Madison — Police arrested six people believed to be involved in what they´re calling one of the most brutal crimes in recent memory. Madison police say three men planned a home invasion, but broke into the wrong home on Quincy Avenue on the north side around 6 a.m. on February 23. Police say the suspects were aware it was not the intended home, but they proceeded to violently attack the two victims who had been sleeping. The suspects are accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting the woman who was six months pregnant. "I can tell you that in my 27-plus years of

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