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Christianity on trial in
Duck Dynasty controversy

American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson

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Posted By:magnante, 12/19/2013 8:56:27 AM

America may be on the verge of a long-needed discussion over the limits of discourse on homosexual acts. Phil Robertson, patriarch of the family that stars in Duck Dynasty, the most popular program in the history of cable television, was interviewed by GQ Magazine, and was asked what in his mind is sinful: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there." (snip) Robertson spoke of homosexual behavior - i.e., acts. He took care not to characterize homosexuality per se as sinful. This is quite consistent with Christian doctrine of loving the sinner while hating the sin. That crucial point


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Reply 1 - Posted by: arcady, 12/19/2013 9:04:54 AM     (No. 9660010)

A&E network is a joint venture between the Hearst Corporation and Disney–ABC Television Group (both of which maintain a 50% ownership interest)

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Reply 2 - Posted by: justavoter, 12/19/2013 9:05:57 AM     (No. 9660011)

Phil is just sayin what everyone is thinkin.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Pros7767, 12/19/2013 9:13:21 AM     (No. 9660029)

Since when does 6% of the population have the right to end freedom of speech?

I´ve really had enough of all of these "offended" people making an issue about any and every conservative thought. Here´s a hint, I´m offended by every liberal cause out there 24/7, but I recognize their right to exist.

Enough already!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: avikingman, 12/19/2013 9:20:15 AM     (No. 9660034)

FTA: "Christianity on trial..."

In your dreams bucko.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: tren9, 12/19/2013 9:21:25 AM     (No. 9660037)

What about my right to not be offended?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 12/19/2013 9:32:29 AM     (No. 9660050)

Rubbish. Christianity is not on trial. Perversion and crony capitalists are on trial. It´s simple: defend Phil; boycott Disney Corp.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 12/19/2013 9:42:12 AM     (No. 9660063)

As a Christian, I have a great deal of patience with the many gays who *should* be standing up against the bigotry of the anti-Christian left. I am becoming convinced by the deafening silence from "the gay community" that part of what it means to be "homosexual" is to be generally deranged and misfit.

I hate bigotry, but this conclusion I´m coming to is seeming less and less like bigotry, since it is based on overwhelming evidence.

You know... SCIENCE!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 12/19/2013 9:43:35 AM     (No. 9660067)

to make a small correction to a previous poster, the latest figures I´ve seen of the actual percentage of real homosexuals in the population is not 6 per cent. It´s around 1.7 per cent, a quarter of that.
1.7 per cent probably is approaching the number of lunatics who truly believe themselves to be Napoleon Bonaparte. We don´t shoot the Napoleonistas, but we recognize them as loons and don´t defer to their delusions.
And we should not ever defer to the delusions of the confused.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: lylacat, 12/19/2013 10:12:54 AM     (No. 9660101)

While waiting in a doctor´s reception area, I had to listen to "The View." I was appalled at the crap Whoopi Goldberg said about anyone who did not agree with her. She is one vile woman; yet, she is still on the air spewing forth her horrid views. What is wrong with these people?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 12/19/2013 10:13:57 AM     (No. 9660102)

It´s worse than you think, #3. Homosexuals are only 1.5% to 2.5% of the general population.

It seems to me they are a little overrepresented on TV and in movies, as well as in positions of influence in certain political environments. Wonder why that is?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 12/19/2013 10:14:13 AM     (No. 9660104)

forgive 2nd post.
There is no such thing as "homophobia". It´s a manufactured term, devoid of real meaning.
There is such a thing as ´homodisgustia´, the very real revulsion of vile behavior, salted with astonishment and resentment that this sort of deviant vile behavior is suddenly supposed to be celebrated as superior, mixed with dark warnings against calling it what it is. It is long past the time for honest and forthright language. Homosexual behavior is morally wrong and harmful to the individuals and the society. Time to say openly what anyone with clear eyes can see.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: NancyD, 12/19/2013 10:15:46 AM     (No. 9660110)

#9, I fail to see where Phil´s words were homophobic.

He stated FACT. Fact that men would rather put their P in a V rather than an A.

IF that wasn´t the case we wouldn´t have over 5 billion humans walking the earth.

He said he didn´t understand their actions. Frankly, neither do I. I don´t get it. What´s the attraction?

I stand with Phil Robertson. I´m not a hater either. Either is Phil, he stated THAT too. But somehow THAT is ignored by the leftists.

I think this entire thing is going to backlash against the left.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/19/2013 10:25:37 AM     (No. 9660119)

This is the Paula Deen case, redux. A&E is going to lose, big time. The public is going to raise hell. So are the hundreds of merchandisers who are peddling DD merchandise. Incidentally, I noticed Paula Deen cookware back on the shelves in my local WalMart. Somebody got a memo somewhere.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: foont, 12/19/2013 10:26:10 AM     (No. 9660120)


The embrace of sexual deviancy and immorality are as much a threat to this nation as profligate spending and the inexorable expansion of government and erosion of constitutional rights. They are all pieces of the same cloth.

People are free to choose. When they choose evil and sin and openly rebel against God they reap consequences as individuals and as a people. The United States is in decline because the moral underpinnings of the nation are being deliberately targeted for destruction. As more and more of the people abandon Christian morals and embrace lunacy the country becomes poorer, weaker and more divided. Leftists understand this and play on it as they imagine that once they have destroyed the moral underpinnings of the people they will then be able to "mold" them and guide them into the new El Dorado of the ideal Socialist State.

The so-called "social issues" are, in fact, the truly important issues. People who abandon virtue and self discipline in private life are not going to exercise these qualities much in public life. Our present state of civilization and governmental overreach and failure are ample evidence of this.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: maryc, 12/19/2013 10:28:54 AM     (No. 9660124)

Duck Dynasty will not die without A & E but the reverse will , if not fatal, be very painful to ( I hate to say it ) a & E´s bottom line.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/19/2013 10:38:00 AM     (No. 9660135)

#13, us normal folks have been busier than you supposed. There are now 7 billions roaming the earth, not five billions.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 12/19/2013 10:55:16 AM     (No. 9660157)

A&E has a facebook page, and it is on fire with the outrage from DD fans. I don´t know, but guess that A&E´s "feedback" feature is burning up with outrage as well.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 12/19/2013 10:55:43 AM     (No. 9660159)

#15, excellent post - can´t be said better than that.

#9, that was not Phil Robertson´s "rant", he was paraphrasing 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. So, if that was anybody´s rant, I guess it could be said to be the Apostle Paul´s "rant" to the Christians at Corinth, although he was inspired by the Holy Spirit in all that he taught in Christ´s name. When it is followed to the ultimate source, God equated homosexuality with those other sins listed in those verses. That information is there because of a love so great that the Son of God shed His blood and died to cleanse mankind of those sins, if they will only hear, believe, repent and obey Him.

Phil Robertson didn´t force his views on anyone, and neither does the Almighty. That´s a free choice that each of us will have to make. We will suffer the consequences or reap the rewards depending on the choice we make.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/19/2013 11:11:28 AM     (No. 9660183)

If you´re thinking of buying DD merchandise to show your support, be sure it´s from their business and not something that will gain A&E their cut. Check out duckcommander.com and see if there´s anything in their store that isn´t associated with A&E.

I wouldn´t put it past the network to gin up the controversy so they could con people into buying a bunch of the DD merchandise that will make them a mint as they kick the Christians to the curb.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Razorgirl, 12/19/2013 11:49:03 AM     (No. 9660254)

How much will it hurt Duck Commanders bottom line when all those gay duck hunters refuse to buy their duck calls? How much will it hurt A&E´s bottom line when 14 million people are no longer watching A&E because DD did not renew their contract?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PrairieAnemone, 12/19/2013 12:07:09 PM     (No. 9660282)

The man condemned the behaviours, not the people. That is perfectly acceptable.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 12/19/2013 3:53:11 PM     (No. 9660573)

It´s time we take back the language. The homosexual lobby invented the work ´homophobia´ to imply that those who disagree with the lifestyle suffer from a mental disease. I don´t know Greek, but there must be a better term we can throw back at them. Does anyone know the Greek work for ´disapproval´ or synonym we can add to the ´homo´ root to indicate our true intentions?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: cpr, 12/19/2013 4:48:56 PM     (No. 9660630)

From the "Turn about is fair play" file:

I call homosexuals "hAPPies" instead of "gay", based on the following:


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Reply 24 - Posted by: saguni, 12/19/2013 7:18:13 PM     (No. 9660776)

Posters #12 and #23, the Latin "odio" the root of "odious" which means disgusting makes a more appropriate suffix to "homo" than does "phobia" which means an irrational fear. Homo-odio or maybe hom-odio would roll of the tongue better.

No person I have ever spoken with has a "fear" of swishy homosexuals, yet many that I know personally are disgusted by their flagrant behavior.

My mom´s youngest brother, my godfather, was homosexual, and I loved him very much and lived with him to help with his bills after he couldn´t work with disabilities. He used to say:

No one asks what happens behind my married sister´s bedroom door. No one asks what happens behind my married brother´s bedroom door. Why should they care what happens behind my bedroom door?

In the nearly three decades since his death, the gay activists have come to believe that everyone should know--in graphic detail--what they are (should be) doing "behind their bedroom door."

If they would just shut their bedroom doors, no one would be bothered, but narcissist exhibitionists that they are, they have to slap us in the face with it, then mock and deride us for having morals.

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Posted By: Ribicon- 3/12/2014 10:59:14 AM     Post Reply
Madison — Police arrested six people believed to be involved in what they´re calling one of the most brutal crimes in recent memory. Madison police say three men planned a home invasion, but broke into the wrong home on Quincy Avenue on the north side around 6 a.m. on February 23. Police say the suspects were aware it was not the intended home, but they proceeded to violently attack the two victims who had been sleeping. The suspects are accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting the woman who was six months pregnant. "I can tell you that in my 27-plus years of

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