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A Powerful Rebuke of Mass Surveillance
New York Times, by Editorial

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Posted By:garnet, 12/18/2013 7:46:56 AM

For the first time since the revelation of the National Security Agency’s vast dragnet of all Americans’ telephone records, a federal court has ruled that such surveillance is “significantly likely” to be unconstitutional.In a scathing 68-page opinion peppered with exclamations of incredulity, United States District Judge Richard Leon, of the Federal District Court of the District of Columbia, found that the seven-year-old phone-data collection program — which was established under the Patriot Act and has been repeatedly reauthorized by a secret intelligence court — “almost certainly” violates the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition against unreasonable searches.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 12/18/2013 8:12:07 AM     (No. 9658399)

As one prominent columnist pointed out some months ago, reassurances about ´only collecting metadata´ are hollow. If someone calls a pizza parlor, an auto mechanic, or a suicide hotline even a government cube critter can figure out the purpose of the call.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/18/2013 8:52:59 AM     (No. 9658476)

Now I wonder why the media (NYTimes no less) is suddenly intersted in powerful rebukes of the government?? Hmmm, lets see here:

"found that the seven-year-old phone-data collection program — which was established under the Patriot Act and has been repeatedly reauthorized by a secret intelligence court"

Aha, 7 years ago....Bushes fault!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chillijilli, 12/18/2013 9:25:55 AM     (No. 9658523)

That´s exactly what I thought, #2.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: coyote, 12/18/2013 9:30:26 AM     (No. 9658530)

Well the TSA does thousands of searches every day that almost certainly violate the fourth amendment´s ban on unreasonable searches. There is no probable cause for them. Oh, public safety? Well isn´t that the same justification the NSA uses? In both cases, it´s probably true sometimes.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/18/2013 9:32:32 AM     (No. 9658533)

Ditto, #1.

But I´m also stunned that a federal court would only find this "significantly likely" to be unconstitutional. Really? Really?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 12/18/2013 9:44:06 AM     (No. 9658544)

With the New York Times reporting the judgement, its safe to say the Surveillance will continue.

All this judgement does is move the surveillance back to the black world from which it came, nothing has changed. No oversight or public awareness will be forthcoming, think of it as Area 51 in spades.

Only way to know for sure that the surveillance is gone would be to see that the supper data centers are removed and cease to operate, and that is not happening. Besides they can move the data centers underground, away from prying eyes.

The United States has many black world projects whose budgets are never itemised. It remains a lump sum of money and couched in the vail of National Security so only those with a need to know have knowledge of its existence.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bamboozle, 12/18/2013 9:53:06 AM     (No. 9658563)

No matter how much finger wagging the judge engaged in, NSA is still listening and recording. Nothing has yet changed. Even if he should issue an injunction against NSA, why would I believe they would stop?

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