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Business, GOP May Regret
Attacking Tea Party

Breitbart´s Big Government, by Mike Flynn

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/15/2013 8:48:51 PM

Lobbyists and the GOP political establishment applauded Speaker John Boehner´s strident attacks against the Tea Party and conservatives as the House prepared to approve the Ryan-Murray budget deal. Boehner hadsaid that conservative groups had "lost all credibility" for opposing a budget deal that increases the national debt. While business groups may get a tingle hearing Boehner´s harsh words, one wonders how alienating the grass roots will help them curtail the next government overreach. “You didn´t hear all the applause across downtown?” Dirk Van Dongen, a top GOP lobbyist with the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors (NAW) said about Boehner´s remarks. “Folks


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 12/15/2013 9:09:09 PM     (No. 9655395)

The fat-bottomed, pot-bellied, baggy-eyed, flabby-faced bullies of the Chamber of Commerce, and their faithful butt-boy John.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: sanspeur, 12/15/2013 9:09:58 PM     (No. 9655396)

The boneheaded speaker wants to be invited to all the Kewl kids parties...so he spits on his crude, formerly loyal supporters.. Guess what ..he was upwind...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 12/15/2013 9:24:09 PM     (No. 9655409)

FTA: If business groups are intent on securing amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants without a secure border, perhaps we need a very high minimum wage to prevent wage suppression on American workers.

I like the strategy, sit out the fight over the minimum wage or support the "living wage". Let the Chamber stew in that pot.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/15/2013 9:24:09 PM     (No. 9655410)

If conservatives were to stay home in big numbers during next November´s election, the Republicans would be screwed, blued, and tattooed. The only downside would be Obama getting his way until 2016, which may be what is essentially about to happen with the help of the so-called Establishment Republicans between now and the election.

The Establishment Republicans are certainly not helping themselves by voting to diminish the worth of already vested military pensions that will hurt the little guys who have served in the military for over 20 years, while at the same time apparently going along to get along with the Democrats to pass an amnesty for many millions of illegal aliens that would also grant them and their foreign family members who would then get to come here with access to all sorts of taxpayer funded social welfare benefits and services.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/15/2013 9:34:14 PM     (No. 9655417)

For the last couple of years, it´ s rare to see a positive post , here and elsewhere ,
about the Republican Party by those who describe themselves as Tea Party.
What I don´t understand is why those who claim to be Tea Party constantly moan and complain
and threaten the Republican Party .
The Tea Party is absolutely miserable being a part of the Republican Party..yet, they refuse to stand
on their own and form a third party.
If the movement is as strong as it´s
supporters and leaders say it is,
a stand alone official Tea Party ,
with it´s own platform and candidates
would seem to be a no brainer.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/15/2013 9:36:32 PM     (No. 9655420)

The facts are, the republican and democrats are coalescing into a single ruling class of snobbish, self important, lords, whom have built for themselves a bubble of privilege, and power that only a revolution by the citizens will correct, I fear.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/15/2013 9:37:52 PM     (No. 9655422)

Another FTA: “You didn´t hear all the applause across downtown?”

That is the problem with most of the Establishment Republicans...They believe the world begins and ends with the DC city limits. Not so, tiny little men!

They also only attack fellow Republicans who are more conservative. John McCain was the first to do so outright, but now they all think it´s OK. We´ll see what happens next year.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: terrywhite, 12/15/2013 9:38:07 PM     (No. 9655423)

"The only downside is Obama getting his way until 2016." That represents a change? He´s been president for 5 years and I can´t recall anything he´s been denied due to the Republican leadership yet! If I and others like me stay home next November, I don´t want to hear complainers here that we handed the election. We are suppose to be a representative republic. The Republican leadership know what we, who are electing them, want, but we never seem to get what we ask them to represent us for. What other alternative is there, but to vote for someone who will represent my views or, if they are not available, then not vote at all?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/15/2013 9:39:51 PM     (No. 9655425)

#5 - The Tea Party has gotten your message. We will not embrace the suck.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/15/2013 9:44:57 PM     (No. 9655428)

#5 you go first, what can you tell us positive about the GOP? Tell us all their successes. Oh, and no fair including the 2012 win that was primarily due to the Tea Party.

And your argument about the third party notion is the classic strawman. Its well understood that we have a two-party system and nature will not allow for a third party. We´re not stupid enough to think a third party is viable, but in any case, the Tea Party is a movement (not an entity) that strives to move the GOP back to where its own platform claims it exists. The fact that the GOP has been taken over by quasi democrats doesn´t mean that conservatives shouldn´t try to take it back.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 12/15/2013 10:02:43 PM     (No. 9655436)

Amen #10

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Reply 12 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 12/15/2013 10:06:24 PM     (No. 9655441)

Right you are #10.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: brownshoepogue, 12/15/2013 10:24:56 PM     (No. 9655458)

Conservatives, maybe its time to give the RINOs and their lap dog chamber of commerce a taste of their own perfidy.
What ya say we take a look at every measure the RINOs, their corrupt business lackeys and the chamber of commerce were ever against...especially the minimum wage...and, much like boner, turkey neck mitch and that slimy chamber of commerce president, reach across the aisle and work with the dems to undermine the modern day whig party and the corrupt chamber of commerce.
Once we have the RINO attention, I think these weasels will heel to conservative principles. The days of taking conservatives for granted are over.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 12/15/2013 10:25:47 PM     (No. 9655459)

Some GOP defenders, #10, will immediately tell you ways the GOP will win elections, but never tell you what they have actually accomplished, which, of course, is nothing. The most ardent ones will explain how they think the sequester limits the deficit to a mere $700B, and that is supposed to be impressive to us. Meanwhile, no progress on Obamacare, Benghazi, F&F, presidential overreach, or Reid´s nuclear strike.

Other posters are merely Democrat trolls and troublemakers. We all need to know the difference. Engage the moderates, ignore the trolls. Over time, it is obvious which is which. This may have been a good time to make that evaluation.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 12/15/2013 11:33:04 PM     (No. 9655499)

Yep, that boneheaded drunk Speaker from Ohio, not Ireland, has declared war on its grass roots. Even that twit Paul Ryan tried to help him walk back his comments about the Tea Party and their conservative base. But Speaker Bonehead just had to express himself and join the other GOP losers.

Let them try to win the Senate and the House in 2014, will not happen. The GOP selected RINOs will go down in flames. The GOP is on it´s way out, no more holding our noses while voting for a RINO instead of a Democrat, they are one and the same.

The Base will vote and support conservative candidates, and the GOP well be left trying to figure out how they blew a gift like ObamaCare.

The GOP has declared War on its base, so be it. Let them eat cake, we conservatives will run our own candidates thank you very much.

Ba...Ba by Speaker Bonehead, perhaps a trip to Lady Bird Johnson,s drug and alcohol rehab center will help you see things a bit more clearly.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: annie xango, 12/15/2013 11:44:26 PM     (No. 9655503)

#5 ..gettin´ old!!!!!!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 12/15/2013 11:50:43 PM     (No. 9655506)

I can´t see the tea party people and the establishment people ever agreeing and neither group has enough to beat the Dems, who always hang together no matter what. Very depressing, and I don´t know what the answer is. I just hate to see the libs win.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 12/16/2013 12:15:58 AM     (No. 9655520)

It is a very iffy situation right now.

If republicans in Washington pass amnesty they will take a horrible beating in 2014.

Conservatives will support Tea Party candidates when available and sit out the election when the only choice is an establishment BIG GOERNMENT republican.

Republicans and democrats want to win elections so they can gain power and wealth.

Conservatives want to win elections to restore a constitiutional government.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/16/2013 2:11:47 AM     (No. 9655554)

Right now the liberal Democrats, the US Chamber of Commerce, and some cheap labor Republicans are attempting to engineer a massive amnesty for up to 20 million illegal aliens and to immigrate their close foreign family members with all to be granted complete access to the legal US labor market.

They also want to bring in about 30 million new foreign workers and their family members in the next 10 years. Most of those people are poor and generally uneducated. These influxes in the legal US labor market constitute a huge amount of cheap foreign labor that is bound to displace millions of American workers from jobs and the labor market in the years ahead. There is no way that this country is going to generate 50 million new jobs that will pay all those people a living wage, so they will have to be heavily subsidized through government social welfare benefits and services at a massive cost.

Once all those foreign workers are here the liberal Democrats will keep raising up the minimum wage and attempt to unionize as many of them as possible. Once that happens you can bet that the liberal Democrats, the Chamber of Commerce, and the cheap labor Republicans will be out there calling for further liberalization of the immigration laws so that more cheap foreign labor can get into the country and be available for hire.

While all that is happening the Democrats will be registering a huge number of new foreign born voters who they will use to drive the Republicans into political oblivion.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: eorsc, 12/16/2013 2:38:14 AM     (No. 9655563)

So let me get this straight. Boehner is sick of the Tea Party. I have news for him. I am sick of Rinos. They might as well be Democrats for all the good they do our country. Not!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/16/2013 2:50:32 AM     (No. 9655572)

#14 thanks, and yes, #5 got my Irish up. BTW, I mean 2010, not 2012.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: pensom2, 12/16/2013 3:19:36 AM     (No. 9655575)

Only a leftist would recommend fracturing the Republican Party into two or more factions. The dems try that in many major elections, ever since Bill Clinton was ushered in by splitting the Republican opposition into the alternate George H.W. Bush and Ross Perot camps.

The Ross Perot candidacy was spawned by Bush, who promised, "Read my lips--no new taxes." Then, like a true turncoat RINO, he "compromised" with the dems and raised taxes. That fool Boehner is walking on quicksand.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 12/16/2013 5:51:10 AM     (No. 9655613)

No. 3, if conservatives do not vote Repulicans will be screwed? Our Republic would be screwed, our childrens´ future would be screwed, prosperity could not be achieved, our position in the world would count for nothing. The Tea Party wil not be so foolish.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: judy, 12/16/2013 5:54:32 AM     (No. 9655618)

Nothing new, top gop elites love big donors & big business. They forgot their base & continue to lose elections. They prefer invitations to DC cocktail parties & love of the elite media.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/16/2013 6:14:34 AM     (No. 9655629)

#5, #17 and #23 - applause

#16, no one is obligated to justify anything to you

#14 seems to believe that anyone who is not in complete agreement with every other GOP conservative is, by default, either a Democrat or a "troll". Well, no. There is a variety of viewpoints inside the conservative movement. That really is ok, and it´s equally ok for that same variety of opinions to be exhibited on this forum. It really is possible to hold conservative views and still not embrace every declaration by anyone claiming a Tea Party label. That´s why Lucianne.com is a forum and not an ongoing pep rally.

Every L-Dotter is worth listening to, whether we agree or not.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 12/16/2013 7:13:22 AM     (No. 9655667)

No, time is money, so not every L-dot post will be worth reading. Some just continue, totally predictably, to spout anti-Tea propaganda apparently intended to demoralize us or to regain support for the establishment.

My prescription?

The Tea Party grassroots needs to recruit and fund candidates who resist the Dem-Lite theory of campaigning (and voting). Those who win their primaries will then challenge the GOP "mainstream" to put their money where their mouth is, and support the pro-free market candidates in the general election. That´s what got the "unelectable" Ronald Reagan elected.

Hey, even the Reagan Democrats were "Tea Party" enough to give him their votes, once a genuine choice was offered to them!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/16/2013 7:24:54 AM     (No. 9655681)

I meant #10, not #16. My apologies to #16.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/16/2013 7:49:30 AM     (No. 9655708)

#10 I guess that means "NO"?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: absalom, 12/16/2013 2:05:10 PM     (No. 9656244)

The ´usual suspects´ party ideal is a GOP in the mold of Nelson Rockefeller. Ignore these losers whose latest plea is ´Don´t split the vote ´cuz we need an R Congress to restrain that meanie Obama´. Really? In 2000-06 we had an R Congress and POTUS whose record of fiscal recklessness and irresponsibility was beyond breathtaking. Supposedly, the second time will be the charm. Sure. Fact is the GOP is larded w/corrupt frauds and hustlers who stand for nothing. It´s burial would be an undeserved kindness.

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How would you feel if a police officer you knew for 20 years told you that if an order were issued to confiscate your guns, he wouldn’t hesitate to “kick your door in”? This was the precisely the experience Connecticut resident, Navy veteran and former firefighter John Cinque had after commenting on his state’s 2013 violation of the Second Amendment. The law in question criminalizes the sale of magazines holding more than 10 rounds and also certain semi-automatic rifles, and mandates that all grandfathered weapons and magazines must be registered with the state. As for Cinque and the exchange with

Oversight report: 6 reasons Lois Lerner
waived her Fifth Amendment rights

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/12/2014 5:39:47 AM     Post Reply
A report released Tuesday by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform asserted that ex-IRS official Lois Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment rights. Lerner continues to stonewall California Rep. Darrell Issa’s committee, pleading the Fifth again in a divisive Oversight hearing last Wednesday convened to get to the bottom of the IRS’ improper targeting of conservative groups between 2010 and 2012. Oversight member Rep. Jim Jordan told The Daily Caller that the committee is “moving” toward holding Lerner in contempt of Congress to compel her to testify. “I think that’s where we’re moving,” Jordan said. “I think that’s where this is headed.”

Cory Booker says he ´drove
to Hawaii´ as a teenager

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Washington Examiner [DC], by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 3/12/2014 5:33:25 AM     Post Reply
During the all-night Senate speech about climate change, Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., said he drove to Hawaii as a teenager. "I just do want to say that right after I turned 17 and got my New Jersey driver´s license, one of the earliest places I drove was a trip — the only trip I have ever taken was to Hawaii," he said on the floor at about 3:00 a.m. "You didn´t drive to Hawaii," Sen. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., said, correcting the freshman senator. Booker laughed weakly. "I did not drive to Hawaii," he admitted. "Thank you for that clarification, I

Bob Beckel Battles Climate Denier on
Hannity: You Know Better Than That!’

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Mediaite, by Matt Wilstein    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 3/12/2014 8:24:11 AM     Post Reply
Sean Hannity introduced last night’s climate change all-nighter session in the Senate by calling it a “waste of time” for Democrats. He then invited Fox’s Bob Beckel and Greenpeace co-founder turned climate change skeptic Patrick Moore to hash it out over what Hannity called “propaganda and a hoax.” After accusing Beckel of saying everyone in the South believes “crap,” Hannity moved on to Moore, asking him “where is the evidence to suggest this is real and not a political agenda?” “There is no scientific proof that we’re causing climate change,” Moore declared, stressing that he does believe the planet is

Wasserman Schultz Says Dem Loss in
Special Election Shows GOP Weakness

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/11/2014 9:21:46 PM     Post Reply
Republican David Jolly won the special election to fill the House seat left vacant by the death of his former boss, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-Fla.). With nearly all of the votes counted Tuesday night, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Alex Sink’s 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. Sink lost the 2010 governor’s race to Rick Scott. The Democratic Party sunk extensive ad funding into the congressional battle, and DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) tried to paint the loss as a positive. “Republican special interest groups poured in millions to hold onto a Republican

Police: Violent home invasion
one of worst attacks in Madison

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WKOW-TV [Madison, WI], by Jennifer Kliese    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/12/2014 10:59:14 AM     Post Reply
Madison — Police arrested six people believed to be involved in what they´re calling one of the most brutal crimes in recent memory. Madison police say three men planned a home invasion, but broke into the wrong home on Quincy Avenue on the north side around 6 a.m. on February 23. Police say the suspects were aware it was not the intended home, but they proceeded to violently attack the two victims who had been sleeping. The suspects are accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting the woman who was six months pregnant. "I can tell you that in my 27-plus years of

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