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The Republican establishment
and insurgent groups brace for
all-out war

Washington Examiner, by Timothy P. Carney

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Posted By:mikkins2, 12/15/2013 10:30:26 AM

The Republican establishment is fed up with the “outside groups” — the conservative lobbying shops and super PACs that have pulled the party Rightward in recent years — and this time, it’s the establishment that is uninterested in compromise. House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are playing to win. But here´s the problem: Directly fighting the insurgent groups only makes them stronger. In a span of 48 hours, the party leadership took two direct shots at the conservative insurgents. Boehner attacked the outside groups on camera, singling out Heritage Action. Also, Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., fired Republican Study

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/15/2013 10:36:22 AM     (No. 9654735)

The GOP does stupid stuff al the time, but what Boehner and Ryan did the other day ranks among the dumbest things I have ever seen. There are those that say there´s not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties -- I always bristled at that. But now I am not so sure the GOP isn´t really just a bunch of dimocrats in GOP clothing. I actually believe the GOP has been infiltrated and is simply a wing of the dimocrat party. I hope they prove me wrong but they keep proving all the naysayers to be right.


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Reply 2 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 12/15/2013 10:38:50 AM     (No. 9654741)

How to win votes.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: lc hoghead, 12/15/2013 10:41:21 AM     (No. 9654750)

Send a TEABAG to Boehner

The Honorable John A. Boehner
United States House of Representatives
1011 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3508

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Reply 4 - Posted by: eoddad, 12/15/2013 10:41:30 AM     (No. 9654751)

#1 You said it all.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pros7767, 12/15/2013 10:45:21 AM     (No. 9654759)

Love it #3, but instead of the bag send the wrapper. It gets screened and won´t make it to his office.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/15/2013 10:55:59 AM     (No. 9654778)

No point in posting my disgust and outrage.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tearza, 12/15/2013 10:56:09 AM     (No. 9654781)

I was a Republican but last year I switched to Independent. I´m also belong to the tea party. The Republican establishment does not have any Idea what they are creating. If they keep this up they will lose the house in 2014. The tea party will stay home.....

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/15/2013 10:58:23 AM     (No. 9654784)

Each GOP entity has started slamming me on the phone and in the mailbox for donations. I refuse to send even the most basic membership donations. They can Go Fish using their stinking attitude for bait. PBS does the same thing with the same frequency. PBS can just wait for the IRS to siphon it from my taxes.

Establishment GOP can Go North and Butt Thunder!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/15/2013 11:02:40 AM     (No. 9654791)

Too bad the Republican establishment can´t be this uncompromising with the Democrats.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: On fire, 12/15/2013 11:05:20 AM     (No. 9654795)

On the back of all the prepaid envelopes from the GOP, I always write: Ted Cruz Rox! Then I am sure on their donation page to write: Donated to Ted Cruz-- please ask him for funds!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: geo11, 12/15/2013 11:07:22 AM     (No. 9654799)

The GOP establishment peeing on the backs of their constituents and telling them it´s raining.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: kate318, 12/15/2013 11:13:11 AM     (No. 9654805)

Oh, so we´re "insurgents" now? Up yours, establishment. You cannot win elections without us.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TXspyder, 12/15/2013 11:26:36 AM     (No. 9654819)

Numbers 3&5, don´t put lumpy items in envelopes. They don´t make it through the sorting machines. I had to explain to my fine liberal co-workers what the tea bags meant last time.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 12/15/2013 11:38:15 AM     (No. 9654837)

It is way past the time when these elite leaders should have been replace with conservatives.

One Marxist party is more than enough.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/15/2013 11:51:15 AM     (No. 9654854)

Conservatives are outsiders only because people such as Ryan and Boehner won´t allow us in their elite club of empty headed flakes. John, you´ve stepped over that red line once too often. Unlike others, our red line means something. Soon, you will be singing a song of woe and with your lemming followers, you will have an entire new choir.
Tea can only brew for so long until the whistle blows and that time is drawing near.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: javelin, 12/15/2013 12:18:10 PM     (No. 9654878)

I am in general sympathy with the so-called Tea Party. It isn´t a party, of course.
Ryan, for his part, was supportive of the Tea Party aims in his comments but did object to the criticism having started before the details of the deal were even available. We were, correctly, critical of Pelosi for supporting a bill before she knew what was in it.
Jumping on Ryan is unfair to him.
It is also unfair and, unwise to raise every difference of opinion to a charge of RINO.
Thus, my dilemma. While I support the conservative views many of my Tea Party friends, their continued attacks on the Republicans might very well continue to stymie our efforts to win elections. Winning elections is the threshold requirement for winning the policy debates in D.C.
So, put me down with William Buckley, I will support the most conservative candidate who can win.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/15/2013 12:27:46 PM     (No. 9654887)

Strong primaries will be a good thing for the party. Party leaders choosing leaders instead of constituents is well a thing of the past.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/15/2013 12:37:44 PM     (No. 9654894)

When the RNC sends me request for donations, I fill my garbage can. Until the GOP understands that we want to lower the Annual budget and shrink government, they can go jump in the lake. The Tea Party is the best thing to have hit this Country in decades and the Rhinos just want to compromise. No way!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: stonepony, 12/15/2013 12:45:20 PM     (No. 9654902)

Well I for one think the right leaning grass root organizations need to consider what they are doing where. They should always be looking toward the general election where they must defeat a member of the thug party. If the odds are strong that a Republican will win in the general election then there should be a fight in the primaries. If the odds are that the general election will be a tossup or difficult to win, then maybe a different candidate should be presented as their parties’ standard bearer.

It really is all about winning. That is all the left cares about. They run candidates who they believe will have the best chance of winning and then co-op them once they are sworn in.

There is no joy in losing. The worse RINO is better than the best thug


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Reply 20 - Posted by: Engrpat, 12/15/2013 1:02:10 PM     (No. 9654920)

When asked which party I belong to I used to say Republican but now I say neither I am a Conservative.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: yuban, 12/15/2013 1:06:41 PM     (No. 9654924)

Voting for RINO´s is what got us in this mess. It is NOT just about winning. It is about doing what is RIGHT, period. You keep voting for the worst RINO over the thug and you get what we have today.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: absalom, 12/15/2013 1:11:38 PM     (No. 9654929)

#19. Most emphatically it really is absolutely NOT all about winning and never was! That is the blarney the GOP DC est.gang has preached forever. It really is about having a principled core and abiding by it. Otherwise your party is the same as the other guy´s, merely a shade different in tone and temperament. The R´s are nothing but a gaggle of frauds and hustlers contemptuous of both principle and their rank and file.
As Lincoln said, a house divided against itself, cannot stand.
Good riddance to bad trash and no tears. NONE!!!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/15/2013 1:28:14 PM     (No. 9654956)

Hate to be a complainer, but I can´t even post without that Eureka vacuum cleaner ad popping up multiple times.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 12/15/2013 1:28:57 PM     (No. 9654957)

The RINOs lost when they declared war on their highly energized base.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/15/2013 1:31:57 PM     (No. 9654964)

Scalise, was my Rep. for a long time and I always liked his very conservative voting record, but districts change and I have a new Rep, that I think will definitely end up a RINO!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/15/2013 1:33:02 PM     (No. 9654965)

I find no joy in losing, in contrast to a couple of the previous posters. Without winning elections, we have no power. If having no power but getting a good feeling from having rejected the non-Dem on the ticket is your desired result, the country is indeed doomed.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: blueline, 12/15/2013 1:45:16 PM     (No. 9654979)

I have often observed a GOP primary where the most conservative candidate(s) throw very public support behind the more "moderate" victor. I´ve also noticed many, many occasions where the "moderate" loser and the GOP machine take their toys and go home, leaving a conservative Republican victor with no support.
I´m done; DONE, with the party apparatus until they change their ways.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: terrywhite, 12/15/2013 1:45:48 PM     (No. 9654981)

What the GOP establishment doesn´t seem to comprehend to any degree is that we here in the hinterland are FED UP with compromising! We enjoyed historic wins with Mr. Reagan only to see his legacy continually diluted since. We are like Capt. Picard confronting the Borg, "They assimilate worlds and we fall back. The line must be drawn here; no further! And I will make them pay!" We have been falling back since Reagan and can no longer tolerate it! We want our leadership to demand a line to finally be drawn! So that the Democrats can no longer assimilate any more freedoms! No only that, we want them to pay for what they have already done! What do keep getting! More compromise and lectures that we need to sit down and shut up! And vote like we tell you so we ca get more "Rs," but more "Rs´ never seem to result in any improvement!


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Reply 29 - Posted by: brezley67, 12/15/2013 1:52:31 PM     (No. 9654993)



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Reply 30 - Posted by: brezley67, 12/15/2013 1:55:56 PM     (No. 9654996)

#23 I use Firefox with Ghostery add-on...blocks most everything.


Donate to SCF, FW and candidates directly. Defund the GOP.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/15/2013 2:09:42 PM     (No. 9655011)

I keep wondering if Boehner et al are just trying to distract us. But from what? Most likely amnesty.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: tomtc, 12/15/2013 2:10:08 PM     (No. 9655014)

#23. I had that frustration for...too long. Finally installed an ad blocker, and no worries. I chose adblock, arbitrarily, but I know there are lots of them. BTW, free. I hope this gets you past that issue.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 12/15/2013 2:20:40 PM     (No. 9655027)

Like you, I thought the 2012 election would bring us back from the brink. Like you, I was crushed.

There is no more hope for squishy Republicans who value their seats, percs, and Chairs over the Republic -- and lack the courage to confront the radicals on the other side of the aisle. I´m ALL IN for conservatism and Conservatives. There is no more room to retreat to. We failed in 2012. We must not fail in 2014 & 2016.

Cruz!

[And a few quid for Tom Cotton]

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Tianne, 12/15/2013 3:00:39 PM     (No. 9655066)

It is so infuriating to see that the only positions that House Speaker Boehner publicly opposes, and that cause him to get ´his Irish up´, are those that are embraced by true conservatives. Where is his ´Irish´ outrage against all of the crimes of this Administration that we are forced to live with (unanswered and unopposed) every day?

Despite what House Speaker Boehner may believe, he does not adequately represent the Conservative opposition.


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Reply 35 - Posted by: Lt.Mom, 12/15/2013 3:53:55 PM     (No. 9655109)

The Republican Progressive and Conservative Groups Brace for All-Out War.

There, as they say, fixed it for you. Conservatives who are members of the Republican Party have the same rights and responsibilities as the Progressives. Of course there is disagreement, but there should be a forthright discussion of policy goals. The problem is that the Progressives not only collude with the Democrats in writing or supporting liberal laws, but they are not open about their actions. No one person or group of people ´owns´ the Republican Party. All who are registered Republican own it.

Right now, the Progressives appear to have the upper hand, but that can change with each voting cycle. Hopefully in 2014.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/15/2013 4:36:52 PM     (No. 9655153)

I sent a hefty donation to Tea Party Express the day Boehner made his attack on conservatism. Now is the time for conservatives to come out swinging. The Rat Party is suffering horribly for their Øbamacare BS. We must fight with everything we have that is lawful. Donate! Write letters, call, encourage the good guys! The nation is at stake here, that´s all.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: judy, 12/15/2013 6:30:00 PM     (No. 9655261)

Why did the Washington Examiner call the tea party insurgents, & not call Ryan, Cantor, Boehner & Rove insurgents? The tea party out numbers the liberal republicans.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 12/15/2013 8:24:51 PM     (No. 9655341)

All I can say is God Bless the TEA Party and phooey on RINOs like Bonehead John Boehner. I would NOT buy a used car from John Boehner.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 12/15/2013 8:30:54 PM     (No. 9655348)

Whether you favor the Tea Party conservatives or the GOP establishment, one this is certain, a civil war can only hurt the party´s chance of taking over the Senate and increasing our numbers in the House. Both are essential to our reversing some of the damage Obama has done to the country or, minimally, preventing further damage. I am reminded of what the Lord said: "A house divided itself cannot stand."

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Reply 40 - Posted by: absalom, 12/16/2013 1:17:01 PM     (No. 9656194)

#40. So an R Congress is ´essential to reversing some of the damage that Obama has done´? Really! Under Bush, Obama´s usher boy, we had an R Congress for 6 years whose recklessness in expanding government and the bureaucracy plus exploding both deficit and debt was greater than in all the years since the Founding. Prolly just a short memory lapse.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/16/2013 1:26:51 PM     (No. 9656208)

So, #41. Stay home and pout while the rest of us try to do something. If you don´t want "an R Congress", what would be your productive suggestion?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: absalom, 12/16/2013 2:59:41 PM     (No. 9656312)

#42. Stormy, doing the same thing produces the same result. It´s just motion, effectively doing nothing. Change is forever in this life and nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come!


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Reply 43 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/16/2013 3:09:31 PM     (No. 9656329)

Yes, I got your opinion about repeating the past. But, no suggestions? No ideas? No actions you may take? We should just sit back and let events overtake us because all is lost?

Not I, my friend.

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Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
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Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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