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‘Stand down’: CIA Benghazi team
clash led to controversial order

Associated Press, by Kimberly Dozier

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/15/2013 4:30:20 AM

WASHINGTON — CIA officers revealed a clash over how quickly they should go help the besieged U.S. ambassador during the 2012 attack on an outpost in Libya, and a standing order for them to avoid violent encounters, according to a congressman and others who heard their private congressional testimony or were briefed on it. The Obama administration has been dogged by complaints that the White House, Pentagon and State Department may not have done enough before and during the attack to save U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, and by accusations that it later engaged in a cover-up. One allegation was

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: LouD, 12/15/2013 6:52:39 AM     (No. 9654446)

I get so angry reading this cr*p! Long before this attack, Stevens had begged State for more security, but Clinton had denied it. Where was the CIA intelligence before this well-planned attack started? It was no spur of the moment thing. It seems almost everyone who testified are in CYA mode. They are disgusting!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: geo11, 12/15/2013 6:52:49 AM     (No. 9654447)

I believe the stand down order came from the White House. Ambassador Stevens was violated and tortured, not brought to the hospital by Syrians trying to help. The story does not fly in my estimation. The coverup continues.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rinktum, 12/15/2013 7:15:52 AM     (No. 9654456)

Bottom line, additional security was requested numerous times in the months leading up to this tragedy and Hillary and the Obama administration denied the request. Why? The environment was extremely volatile and dangerous and yet the State Department under Hillary´s command couldn´t be bother to ensure the safety of its employees and the American contractors working there. For that reason alone Hillary has proven that she is totally unfit to serve in any capacity in the government. She should be held accountable for her wretched record of non-achievement and inability to do her job.

A Secretary of State should make it top priority to make sure every employee stationed overseas has adequate security. Hillary´s denial of security in proven hostile territory should be reason for immediate dismissal and be a permanent stain on her character making her unfit for further public service.

This woman is weak and without character. Her only strength is blind political ambition which she displayed when she told a bald face lie to the families of those who were slain. That is her legacy and may it follow her all the days of the rest of her life. Everything she has done in her life has been for political ambition. She is at her core an amoral soul obsessed with besting a cheating husband. The presidency is the reward she seeks for standing by her man. She feels this country owes her. She is a pathetic harridan who deserves, for once in her life, to be held accountable for lives of those men she sentenced to death when she denied them proper security or failed to order them to return home.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 12/15/2013 7:17:16 AM     (No. 9654458)

We haven´t yet been told why Ambassador Stevens went to Benghazi.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: BarryNo, 12/15/2013 7:30:43 AM     (No. 9654468)

I think he did something to offend Shrillery. Maybe he looked her in the eye. Maybe he mentioned that he had served under better SoS than she.

And he was punished.

She sent him to a dangerous place. Refused his calls for security, and then set his up to die.

This is a Liberal wet-dream of how they would like to deal with anyone who crosses them. Just ask Bashir...
This is a Liberal wet-dream

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Hawkeye Schwartz, 12/15/2013 7:33:51 AM     (No. 9654472)

#3, Tell us what you really think! Actually that is what I really think. Thank you!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: uno, 12/15/2013 7:39:45 AM     (No. 9654479)

#3 - A Like, a compliment and thanks.
Well said!
Thanks!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: DaddyO, 12/15/2013 7:42:46 AM     (No. 9654483)

But I thought the democrats said there was no stand down order..

"No Benghazi "Stand Down" Order Was Given: Another Fox Narrative Falls Apart"
Media Matters, June 27, 2013

DELETED. We never use that website as a source for any articles posted here. LCom Staff.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: privateer, 12/15/2013 7:48:27 AM     (No. 9654496)

So far we get a steaming pile of Hillary (treacherous, self-serving lies) but next to no answers. FTA "None of those who testified said a quicker response would have saved the lives of Stevens and communications specialist Sean Smith at the temporary diplomatic facility." What about a quicker response weeks previous...building up security as Stevens had repeatedly asked? And: "Roughly five hours later, the CIA team testified that mortars hit, killing former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, who had helped rescue the diplomats, and former SEAL Glenn Doherty,.." so they had FIVE HOURS in which to bring up some help, perhaps a helicopter gun-ship, a stike team, but nothing was done for FIVE HOURS?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Jebediah, 12/15/2013 8:06:11 AM     (No. 9654514)

This is another pass the buck proposition as far as I can see, put out to deflect criticism of Hillary ignoring requests for protection for months and Obama being so "upset" that he went to bed and hopped a plane to yet another campaign event the next day, both of them first attempting to cover themselves with that ridiculous YTube film story via Susan Rice---and note that the author of that trivial pursuit (the film) is STILL imprisoned without ability to speak. Blatant Banana Republic stuff---thank God Obama and Clinton don´t have the military on their side or we would certainly see a coup looming.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/15/2013 8:19:44 AM     (No. 9654521)

Our government should have added security. When the attack happened backup support should have been made available immediately. The green light should have been given to go terrorist hunting throughout Libya.

Instead our government played politics by watching out for 2012 and kissing up to terrorist supporters.

Now our government covers everything up BLATANTLY. People should be in jail for this.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: M2, 12/15/2013 8:29:46 AM     (No. 9654528)

One big cluster-muck:

The CIA team leader and the CIA chief at the Benghazi annex told committee members that they were trying to gather Libyan allies and intelligence before racing into the fray, worried that they might be sending their security team into an ambush with little or no backup.

Okay, but....

None of those who testified would say they believed the ambassador or the others could have been saved had they arrived any faster, according to two officials, who also were briefed on the testimony.

Doesn´t this smell funny? If they wanted to wait to gather more information, wouldn´t that very waiting have contributed to the notion that they couldn´t be saved had they arrived earlier?

This stinks. Everyone pointing fingers at each other but when you get down to the short hairs, who gives the final go-ahead?

We are leaderless. Our military´s hands are tied because of political correctness. Our military has been emasculated. People on the Hill are lying and others swearing to it.

I want names and I want them at the top, not down the food chain.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/15/2013 8:40:55 AM     (No. 9654542)

Amen, #3, amen.

And #10, they finally did let that poor video maker out of jail a month or two ago.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/15/2013 9:01:08 AM     (No. 9654574)

Everybody can remember Hillary was the commie Val Jaret to husband Bill´s presidency, also widely known as Hillary´s CO presidency. She has not ordered a "stand down" on many other violent, premature deaths, the most famous of which were the cult family deaths of all the innocent men, women and children at Waco. An entire large household slaughtered by the BATF and several other of our heavily armed services. For this carefully planned military attack, all of the press was carefully kept five miles away so that the press could not see the final, militarized, violent destruction of all those men, women and children remaking in the large building.
She was directly or indirectly involved in many other sudden deaths, most notably best friend, Vince Foster and cabinet member, Ron Brown. For those curious to know more, there are carefully compiled lists, known as the Bill (and Hillary) Clinton Body Count List. Over 125 people dead ! Lest we forget.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Coach Springer, 12/15/2013 9:19:06 AM     (No. 9654605)

Nobody claimed that Stevens could have been saved. Nobody claimed he couldn´t. Smoke inhalation is time sensitive. So, the administration planned to do nothing. It knew about Islamist plans around 9/11 and Benghazi and about Stevens’ own please. It knew about the attacks as they happened. Then, it executed its plan to do nothing. And then it blamed a YouTube and American insensitivity to Islam for an Islamist act of war against America. And then it apologized to Islamists in terrorist friendly lands. And only then did Obama lie while knowing his lie would be exposed – and not for the first or the last time. Everything possible was done, if by everything you mean every possible wrong thing.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Poobah, 12/15/2013 9:23:34 AM     (No. 9654613)

Everyone keeps saying, "Obviously, the fiasco in Benghazi wasn´t suppose to happen. Where did our system break down?"

The answer is, "The system broke down when we put an incompetent, America-hating president in the White House."



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Reply 17 - Posted by: Arby, 12/15/2013 10:13:47 AM     (No. 9654694)

This should be hung around the PIAPS´ neck like a moldy albatross.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/15/2013 10:25:00 AM     (No. 9654708)

When you call the fire department it is not their job to speculate on how much good they can do you. Their job is to dispatch men and trucks as quickly as possible.

This battle might well have lasted two or three days if we were willing to show up and fight.

....and win.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mulhaven, 12/15/2013 10:40:45 AM     (No. 9654746)

It happened because the bone-headed Clinton and the isolated Obama were responsible and they are just too damn dumb and corrupt to be able to do the honourable thing. The goofs are running the regime and this tragedy was a result of that. The regime has no one of intellectual or ethical stature to do anything but what they think is in their immediate self-interest.

Is that clear enough?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/15/2013 10:48:17 AM     (No. 9654765)

Know why we can´t get to the bottom of the Kennedy Assassination?

Cr*p flung on the wall. So many theories, false stories, ´official accounts´ leaks, secrets, and voodoo who-do that untangling Christmas lights is logical by comparison.

You .. will .. never .. know .. the .. truth .. about Benghazi. Never

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Reply 21 - Posted by: wtm, 12/15/2013 10:49:52 AM     (No. 9654769)

The Phone rang in the White House at 3 AM, and both Obama and Hillary failed to answer it !!!!

(That is ALL that needs to be said !)

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Reply 22 - Posted by: curious1, 12/15/2013 10:53:56 AM     (No. 9654774)

#18, Amen.

And notice lil´ Kimberly of AP(commie) persuasion doesn´t mention the proximity of the NAS in Italy or the team in Germany or the CIC´s dereliction of duty in granting CBA or all the other little details that paint a starkly evil picture of abandonment of our people. A firing squad would be too good - flaying alive and staked on an ant hill while smeared with honey wouldn´t even touch it.

And note the weasel words: FTA "...he said he knew that no combat aircraft were available for such a mission..." CAS wouldn´t be approved to save our people?!?!?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/15/2013 10:54:54 AM     (No. 9654776)

This AP piece is being written so that a year from now when the contractors release their book, the administration can point to this article and say "old news, cleared up a year ago."

FTA: The lawmakers wanted to hear directly from the contractors about their account before a book the contractors have written is published in September 2014, if it passes the CIA’s security review.

Does anyone believe the team from the annex was the only one to be told to stand down?




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Reply 24 - Posted by: mc squared, 12/15/2013 10:56:09 AM     (No. 9654780)

Old news. It will all be forgotten buy 2016. The Pubbies have short memories too.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Deaconalso, 12/15/2013 11:01:54 AM     (No. 9654789)

The real question that needs answering is: What were 36 CIA operatives and Ambassador Stevens doing there in the first place? Get the answer to that, and you´ll know why Jug Ears dreamed up the video bullshit!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: EQKimball, 12/15/2013 11:32:45 AM     (No. 9654831)

And while all of it was happening, the Commander-in-Chief, having been informed by his SecDef, retired to his private quarters for the evening. Kitty Genovese is screaming, and the chief of police takes his phone off the hook? Tell me the outcome wasn´t foreseen and approved.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/15/2013 1:11:56 PM     (No. 9654930)

First, anything from the AP is going to be wortheless. However, this article says there was at least an armed CIA team seconds away, and even THEY were told to stand down? But the ORIGINAL "stand down" issue was about a request for SERIOUS assistance from the real armed forces not the CIA. About which this article says the CIA guy in charge never requested aircraft "because he knew there weren´t any".

And of course, there always remains the setup of why they were there and who was attacking and why, yada yada.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: dittohead, 12/15/2013 1:23:11 PM     (No. 9654942)

I wish the ambassador and the others had hopped on a plane and flew back to Washington when they were refused extra security. I think that´s what I would have done anyway. Then let them explain the crap they were trying to cover up.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: suejeanne, 12/15/2013 2:02:35 PM     (No. 9655003)

As outrageous as it was for Hillary to say "what difference does it make" it was even more outrageous that not one member of the House or Senate has done anything about it. Useless.

Seeing what looked like bloody fingerprints one one of those pillars I wonder if the FBI ever did a DNA study on whose blood that was -

and what did that Arabic writing mean on one of those other walls -

we never heard -

maybe it meant "what difference does it make - America is too weak to do anything about this"

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Reply 30 - Posted by: larryp, 12/15/2013 5:33:19 PM     (No. 9655216)

I wondered when this happened what was going on in Libya, and Benghazi to warrant the attention of an ambassador.
Checking wikipedia,no embassies there ,only in tripoii.
I did find the National Front for liberation of Libya, which is called something in French, slightly different.
This was the HQ of the group the Us Armed to defeat Kadaffi.
no one checked it out tht I could tell.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Elvira, 12/15/2013 5:47:56 PM     (No. 9655225)

God, this breaks my heart and makes me mad as hell everytime I think of those brave men fighting and fighting, knowing that help was coming.... after all the US NEVER leaves their own!! We ARE AMERICA! We watch out for our own....

What the hell has happened to us? No one deserves what happened to Ambassador Stephens, NO ONE!!! And still no retribution??

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Reply 32 - Posted by: coldoc, 12/15/2013 8:01:35 PM     (No. 9655331)

Delay of up to 30 minutes? Pure crapola CYA lies from the most corrupt and incompetent administration in history. This is the legacy of hillary clinton, the most corrupt and incompetent SOS since MA.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: web, 12/16/2013 8:21:14 PM     (No. 9656617)

Remember Black Hawk Down? BJ Clinton did the same thing to our soldiers in Somalia... denied them armor, so that they ended up dying in the streets unprotected, and had to rely on the Pakistanis to provide armor so that they could retreat. The Clintons should not be allowed anywhere near anything that involves national security or the protection of American lives. In fact, the only place they should be allowed near is Fort Leavenworth.

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Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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