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Heritage Action: Boehner picks fight
to clear way for immigration

The Hill, by Mario Trujillo

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Posted By:mikkins2, 12/14/2013 1:19:11 PM

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is picking a fight with outside conservative groups to clear the way for immigration reform, Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham charged on Friday. “The Speaker is trying to turn this into a boring fight between outside groups and himself so we are not having a policy debate about whether or not this is a good deal,” Needham said of the budget deal approve by the House on Thursday. He said Boehner wanted to divert attention from the substance of the two-year budget deal by picking the fight. "This deal increases spending, this deal increases taxes. And

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Personally I think that amnesty is going to happen no matter what is said or done. I think most agree that it is inevitable. But the Republican Establishment is forcing it to happen before the border is secure convinced they need the Hispanic vote now because Tea Party minded people are leaving them in droves. A recipe for disaster.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: William1, 12/14/2013 1:35:39 PM     (No. 9653817)

Agreed, OP. I believe both parties want a "redo" of the white middle class for more tractable voters. To hell with the culture and what made America great. The tragedy will be the ultimate demise of my county. The joy will be the elimination of the republican party with its elites and traitors.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/14/2013 1:42:46 PM     (No. 9653821)

The number of new Hispanic voters that the Republicans would pick up after caving on a big amnesty is not going to help them if conservatives stay home on Election Day.

It depends on how the Republicans define immigration reform. Facilitating liberal Democrat designed immigration reform will amount to long term political suicide for the Republicans and hand the Democrats tens of millions of new foreign born voters in the years ahead.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 1:55:33 PM     (No. 9653831)

Heritage is correct. The republican party will fold & the liberals Boehner, Ryan & Cantor will be blamed, not the tea party or Heritage. Boehner is going off the deep end & no one is attempting to stop him. All this so abccbsnbccnn, NY Times & WP will love them, throwing the base to the wind.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JAN, 12/14/2013 2:02:52 PM     (No. 9653839)

Boehner has been attacked viciously for months and months. Talk radio hosts and others have been relentless in their attacks, personal and substantive.

Finally he strikes back and now it´s ´how dare he´.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 2:10:12 PM     (No. 9653858)

Boehner is beyond repair.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: The Advocate, 12/14/2013 2:18:30 PM     (No. 9653868)

Perhaps Boehner deserves the criticism aka Attacks?
Any amnesty to illegals would be the final straw.
Open Borders destroys our sovereignty.
We should adopt Mexicos policy - arrest, imprison and deport.
Mexico will benefit from fracking- by allowing their elites to export people to US and send back r bilions in remittances while taking US services - we give them a safety valve that enables elite to keep them poor.
The young people are waking up.
Don´t blame them for voting for Obama - young, exotic and tan- compared to old cranky McCain and Romney - Romneycare - whats the DIFFERENCE?
Republicans forgot adage- If you don´t stand for something, you will fall for nothing.
$60 Billion in additional revenue called "fees" is still a tax increase.
The Sequester should be kept - Ryan and Boehner betrayed the Taxpayer.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/14/2013 2:19:27 PM     (No. 9653869)

#4, the comments I´ve read have questioned whether Boehner is committed to representing the people or the establishment. He has answered the question. He supported a back room deal which wipes out the only meager spending cuts enacted into law and increases spending for defense by decreasing the retirement plans for the men and women who have already served our country. He held the vote before the details could leak out, but only after criticizing organizations that had uncovered part of the deal.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 2:28:52 PM     (No. 9653884)

Read the Facebook & Fox Nation comments, 99% are against Boehner, however abccbsnbccnn WP, WH, NY Times love him. Now you know where his priorities are, not with the republican party. The vile energy he used against conservative the other day showed the real Boehner . When was the last time you heard Boehner raise his voice against a dem? He´s acts like someone off their meds. My guess is the dems bought him drinks the day he went off on the conservatives.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/14/2013 2:37:17 PM     (No. 9653893)

#4, take any ten important issues and name five where Boehner has been solidly on the side of Conservatives. I cannot. That´s why he draws attacks. He should listen to his side and attack the other side, not vice versa.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/14/2013 2:41:15 PM     (No. 9653896)

When I read comments in defense of Boehner, the phrase "the truth hurts" comes to mind.

Increasing spending and increasing taxes hurts all Americans. Both are part of this deal, no matter how the elite permanent political ruling class Republicans attempt to spin it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 2:43:47 PM     (No. 9653902)

Name one positvie thing Boehner has done. He´s a non leader.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/14/2013 2:45:43 PM     (No. 9653904)

@#1: You stated, `The joy will be the elimination of the republican party with its elites and traitors.`

I don`t think they care. They`ll just join the progressives. They are mostly there now as it is. It`ll be one big happy elitist party with plenty of infighting for the top spots.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/14/2013 2:47:33 PM     (No. 9653907)

Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham is 31 yr old glorified intern
who has never worked in the private sector
and lives in the paranoid , but, well paid bubble that
he and DeMint have created at the formerly respected Heritage Foundation.
The paranoia and fear they spread is designed to agitate people , so they will contribute to the Heritage Action .
All summer they told town halls that they needed contributions to make the government shutdown happen.
And as soon as the shutdown happened-Obama would immediately agree to defund Obamacare.
I´m surprised they didn´t try and sell swampland while they were at it.
DeMint flys in a private jet and they are expensive.
Did Boehner say he was sick of Heritage Action
specifically ?
No.
Did he pick a fight ? No.
He finally responded to the years of trash talk and lies from Heritage Action.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mikkins2, 12/14/2013 3:19:25 PM     (No. 9653938)

The only problem with #13´s screed above is that Heritage and Needham have history and Google on their side.

Example:
"Did Boehner say he was sick of Heritage Action
specifically ?
No.
Did he pick a fight ? No.

Google search using "Boehner attacks" and here is the first result:

"On Wednesday, Boehner issued a brief aside, accusing Heritage Action and others of “using” younger, less experienced GOP lawmakers. On Thursday, he delivered a more expansive critique, acknowledging that he felt pushed.

“It’s just that, you know, there just comes to a point when some people step over the line,” he said. “You know, when you criticize something and you have no idea what you’re criticizing, it undermines your credibility.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehner-escalates-feud-with-conservative-groups-as-vote-on-budget-bill-looms/2013/12/12/3986871c-634f-11e3-91b3-f2bb96304e34_story.html

Do you even think about what you write or is it just cut and past directly from Boehner´s staff emails?

Google is certainly NOT your friend.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dman, 12/14/2013 3:25:09 PM     (No. 9653947)

The 2010 wave election that provided Boehner the opportunity to be Speaker was about more than Obamacare. It was also about illegal immigration and the intractable national debt. Boehner attempts to emphasize the first motivation so that he can betray us on the other two.

We know what the problems are. What are the solutions?

The GOP has betrayed us far too often. My vote is for a new Conservative party.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/14/2013 3:25:53 PM     (No. 9653948)

Give it up, #14. No one accuses you of copying and pasting. You ought to observe the same courtesy. It really is possible that someone holds a view different from yours and that person is as sincerely motivated as you.

Jim DeMint was, once upon a time, a man I listened to and admired. But, he has sold out. I believe he has ruined Heritage´s carefully constructed reputation. Now, Heritage is just another political group, much as you and your friends accuse Karl Rove of being.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: yuban, 12/14/2013 3:45:55 PM     (No. 9653964)

DeMint is a Conservative, Rove is a Moderate thus I am against Rove and all for DeMint. I would never deny Rove a voice but I sure as heck will call him what he is. You Moderates just can´t handle Conservatives any more than I can handle Moderates. The OP here already has waved the white flag with "Personally I think that amnesty is going to happen no matter what is said or done."

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mikkins2, 12/14/2013 3:47:41 PM     (No. 9653967)

Thank you for lecturing me that I shouldn´t post an opinion by sharing your opinion that everyone has a right to a different opinion, except me apparently.

As to cutting and pasting, please accuse away! I plead guilty.

Matter of fact I just cut and pasted a quote from a article that destroyed an obvious lie by not only cutting and pasting an actual quote that was claimed to not have been said, I even pasted its source and how I found it.

I have no shame...

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Reply 19 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/14/2013 4:35:27 PM     (No. 9654026)

Go for the gusto Johnny, cause you are going lose it all. Signed a former Republican, now a full fledge Tea Party supporter!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 12/14/2013 5:03:53 PM     (No. 9654045)

I join you in lauding your multiple researching, copying and pasting skills. But mutual civility isn´t one of them. However, an L-Dotter´s lot is to overlook such shortcomings.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 6:07:15 PM     (No. 9654084)

Wow! All of a sudden the libs think DeMint is destroying a once great foundation, Heritage. Hmmm wasn´t long ago they called Heritage a far right wing organization. All of a sudden abcbsnbccnn NY Times, WP are now in love with Ryan, Boehner & Cantor.

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Climate change’s latest casualty appears to be fish — or more specifically, fish brains — as researchers say the carbon dioxide that’s being absorbed into the ocean is causing the scaly creatures to lose their survival instincts. In other words, the fish are losing their minds, The Daily Mail reported. The acid from atmospheric carbon dioxide seeps into sea waters, dissolves and ultimately lowers the pH balance, researchers said. The acidic waters then hamper the fishes’ sensory systems, so they’re not able to distinguish between smells any longer, the scientists went on. When the acid levels get really high, the fish lose their


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