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A Bad Deal Compared to What?
American Spectator, by Ross Kaminsky

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 12/12/2013 5:55:54 AM

I’m in a tough spot. Paul Ryan is one of the brightest stars in the Republican Party. He is a true fiscal (and social) conservative, and I cheered when Mitt Romney selected him as his running mate (although I wished Ryan rather than Romney were the presidential candidate, and I still hope he will be in the future). Ryan towers, literally and figuratively, over his Democratic opposition-turned-collaborators.(Snip)Some are arguing that no deal would be better than this deal; it is a refrain that you will hear from both the right and the left in coming hours and days. And in a

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mws50, 12/12/2013 6:13:15 AM     (No. 9650526)

What a load of garbage. Ryan got rolled by Patty Murray, a known liberal fool. The alleged 0.008% reduction in the budget does not mention it is a 0.008% reduction in the base line budget. That means the scheduled budget increase or 5% is now reduced by .008%.

The DC politicians are scamming the American people.... again...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: frenesi1, 12/12/2013 6:27:41 AM     (No. 9650535)

Ryan won´t get my vote.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/12/2013 6:30:36 AM     (No. 9650540)

My, how he´s growing in office.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/12/2013 6:34:50 AM     (No. 9650545)

These Republicans have sold us out for years and years and years. They painted themselves in this corner and now we´re all suffering for it. Remember when the voters told Bush not to let them down? And the darn Republicans did? I do not trust any of them. They vote for themselves nothing else than that. To heck with the people. AND they have proved this time and time again.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dixieboy1, 12/12/2013 6:35:19 AM     (No. 9650547)

Ryan drank the Kool=Aid. He´s all hot for amnesty, too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/12/2013 6:38:22 AM     (No. 9650550)

Well gee we should all be really relieved that Obama can´t call the Republicans ´obstructionists´ anymore. That ploy worked. They really think we´re stupid.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Joe vann, 12/12/2013 6:53:29 AM     (No. 9650570)

Ryan knows more about our countries economics than the entire Denacratic Congress and the Presicpdent combined. He has been a fiscal conservative his entire career and offered two outstanding buget proposals that passed the House but dingy Harry tabled them both...a couple of years back. Thus, the question is why did he team up with a left wing socialist to come up with this piece of garbage ? I sure don´t know but I hope he may be playing for time going into the 2016 elections by not giving the Demacrates and their msm ammunition to crucify the Republicans for the foreseeable future, thud taking the nations focus off the Demacrates and their many woes. We must win the Senste in 16. Hellfire Obama seems almost bullet proof...he is back over 40% in some polls. Unbelievable what the press can do working with the Rigime.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rinktum, 12/12/2013 6:59:45 AM     (No. 9650583)

I don´t like this deal but I understand the concept of incremental change. Most of us want to wave a magic wand and have Washington be transformed. That would be the my choice but that is not reality. Would it be prudent to stand and fight on this issue at this time? Not sure. One, the Republicans have lost their resolve and determination to fight. They are so weak, ineffective and worst of all, divided. It pains me to say this, but in the grand scheme of things, it would be best to approve this quickly and move along. Two, the battle that will require a steel spine is against comprehensive immigration. This is the one that must be won and conservatives should insist that this is the price the moderates will pay in order to garner their support of this budget. They must forget the push for comprehensive immigration reform. People are turning against the democrats and we must let them. A fight to the death between conservatives and moderate Republicans is what the democrats want and need. Sure, this deal is not optimal, but it will not determine the fate of this nation like immigration reform and can be revisited under a Republican president and Republican Congress.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: JAN, 12/12/2013 7:14:23 AM     (No. 9650606)

Given the fact that we have the presidency, the congress and the senate......there is no doubt Ryan could have gotten the perfect deal.

He was just too lazy.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 12/12/2013 7:40:09 AM     (No. 9650633)

You have little power when you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government. Please play the long game for once.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Starlady, 12/12/2013 8:05:19 AM     (No. 9650668)

Wishful thinking on the author´s part, it´s time to face reality. The attributes described do not belong to Paul Ryan, the GOP propaganda about him in 2012 must have worked. Ryan´s proposed budgets in the past few years have been timid according to many economists. What is the GOP going to say/do when the economy completely crashes because they couldn´t /wouldn´t make difficult choices? There are no leaders in the GOP controlled House who will deal in truth. You hear only what you want to hear just like the Lofo´s do with Obama and the Dems. We have to stop our wishful thinking.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Bpl40, 12/12/2013 8:30:07 AM     (No. 9650693)

I think the headline says a lot. Do any of the negative commentators here have a better option? The GOP failed to capture the Senate and that is a fact of political life that someone like Ryan has to live with everyday. Was a Better Deal realistically possible? What were the downsides of not having a deal at all? If the GOP wins the Senate in ´14 all talk of giving power to the Senate majority is moot. Let´s keep our eyes on the prize.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/12/2013 8:32:24 AM     (No. 9650696)

#10 Moderate Republicans have been playing the "long game" for 20 years. What have they accomplished? Not much as I look at it.

Sweet little Paul Ryan against hardliner Patty Murray...that was certainly not a fair fight. He may know a lot, but she knows how to negotiate.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/12/2013 8:35:38 AM     (No. 9650698)

Compromise is impossible when the truth is up for grabs. The Tea Party is not alone.

"These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."

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Reply 15 - Posted by: yuban, 12/12/2013 9:57:55 AM     (No. 9650849)

Just because the Left out numbers the Right does not mean you give up and let the Country continue to slip in to Socialism. No, when you are out numbered you fight even harder to save this great Nation. A better deal would be to let the Left have it all on them so when it fails, and it will, they cannot say the GOP was in on it as well. Being part of the problem is not a winning agenda for the GOP.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/12/2013 11:18:00 AM     (No. 9650965)

Excuse me, but all that is needed is a Continuing Agreement to continue government at the spending levels already agreed to in the 2011 Budget Agreement. Anything more would allow Harry Reid to amend the bill after cloture but before the final Senate vote to delete restrictions and add additional spending.

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