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Cree Ushers In The End Of
The Incandescent Lightbulb

Forbes, by Christopher Helman

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 12/10/2013 9:14:58 AM

Say goodbye to the 60-watt incandescent bulb. This year manufacturers started phasing out 100w and 75w bulbs. On January 1 it will become illegal to import or manufacture traditional 60w and 40w bulbs too. Time to stock up? Not so fast. First, check out Cree’s energy-sipping new 75-watt replacement bulb. I used to be outraged over the federal government’s draconian moves to outlaw traditional lightbulbs. For 100 years we’ve lived and thrived under the warm glow of incandescent lightbulbs. Aside from the fact that 90% of the electricity used by the bulbs is radiated in the form of heat rather than

Add this to the endless list of Nazi behavior from our government. We should have had a right to decide what we want.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 12/10/2013 9:20:08 AM     (No. 9647899)

"75-watt replacement bulb. At $24 per bulb, it’s going to take awhile to catch on"

At 25 - 75 cents per bulb, do ya think there is a reason that the makers want you to buy this?

Do the math - how long to burn the difference in electricity that YOU PAY FOR?

As for CFL´s I´ve never had one last longer than a year.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: drive, 12/10/2013 9:22:23 AM     (No. 9647903)

Going to Dollar Tree to stock up on the incands

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/10/2013 9:25:32 AM     (No. 9647907)

And everyone can afford to pop for $24 light bulbs in multiples. How many light bulbs does your house need?

And what about oven bulbs?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 12/10/2013 9:27:45 AM     (No. 9647912)

We look for incandescent bulbs at estate sales. Often find all shapes and sizes, and pay just a couple dollars for an armload. Now why would I pay $12-$24 per bulb for the ´new and improved´ versions?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Michaelus, 12/10/2013 9:30:38 AM     (No. 9647916)

See folks - nothing works better than the partnership of large governments with large corporations and rich men. Everyone please apologize for saying mean things about Mussolini.

Sarcasm aside - does this mean that Congress will allow people to decide what light bulbs to buy? Why is it still legal to buy a horse-buggy, lye soap, leather soled shoes, coal, a Model T, a biplane, a canvas backpack, a passenger train ticket etc. etc.? These are all obsolete, energy wasting things too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Captain Howdy, 12/10/2013 9:31:04 AM     (No. 9647917)

Sometimes a little heat is desirable, like keeping the pumphouse from freezing.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ribicon, 12/10/2013 9:35:19 AM     (No. 9647923)

The Upton-Bush incandescent light bulb ban is one reason among many why the Republicans own a deeply damaged brand.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Catherine, 12/10/2013 9:38:02 AM     (No. 9647929)

I´m using an incandescent right now on my African Violets. I usually keep them in the window where they get just the right amount of light. However, it snowed the other day & the snow is still sitting there taunting me, and it gets cold in here at night since we shut this room off. So I turned on the light over the stove, plop my violets on the back of it and there is actually one about to bloom. And it gets just enough heat from that bulb to not freeze. I bet that $24 bulb isn´t that smart.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mc squared, 12/10/2013 9:48:03 AM     (No. 9647937)

We´ll grow to like them after we are forced to use them -- like Obamacare.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Salt5792, 12/10/2013 9:53:48 AM     (No. 9647943)

You will be able to get incandescent bulbs on the Internet as long as you want. If you can get prostitutes, Viagra, etc. online,then light bulbs ought to be easy to source. BTW, Rep Upton should be ashamed of himself.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LouD, 12/10/2013 9:57:48 AM     (No. 9647950)

Meanwhile, they keep shoving the mercury-laden "green" bulbs at us, with no place to get rid of them, other than the landfill. Yet they aren´t supposed to be put in the landfill. Well, guess what? My burned out "Green" bulbs end up going there anyway.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 12/10/2013 9:58:40 AM     (No. 9647951)

If the government had left the light bulb market alone affordable LEDs would probably have been available years ago. Another case of government intervention having the opposite effect intended. I use Cree bulbs and like them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Axeman, 12/10/2013 10:00:03 AM     (No. 9647956)

LED lights get dimmer over time and their color changes. They also require a power supply built into the socket. This can just suddenly fail. It is not likely to go up in flames like a CFL will.
I have all my outdoor lighting except the area flood lights replaced with LEDs and I think they work great. I also replaced my kitchen counter 12v track lighting with LEDs.
The bedside reading light will always be an incan and I have a hoard of spares.
I really don´t care if they have a glass globe on them.
Oven lights on old ovens are stuck with the old lamps but newer ovens can be made with light pipes so the lamp never contacts the heat. This could allow for much better illumination inside. (Just in case no one has thought of this already, remember you heard it here first.)

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JimS, 12/10/2013 10:08:21 AM     (No. 9647970)

The problem is that many of the light fixtures in my new home were designed to fit incandescent bulbs, and will not fit these faux bulbs. Also dimmer switches don´t work.
I am looking at several hundred dollars to replace perfectly good and new fixtures.

I intend to claim the cost for the replacement as a Loss by Theft on my income tax

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Reply 15 - Posted by: nerdowell, 12/10/2013 10:23:41 AM     (No. 9647988)

Only the 75 volt bulbs cost $24. The 50 & 60 watt bulbs cost much less. And, they last much longer and burn less electricity--cheaper over the long term.

I admire defiance and cussed-ness, but I love me some LED´s

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Reply 16 - Posted by: plex, 12/10/2013 10:24:42 AM     (No. 9647991)

There are an increasing number of LED bulbs that work with conventional dimmers but some are vastly more expensive. Cree claims that their bulbs work with conventional dimmers. I have one 60 watter as an experiment. It is a little whiter than the traditional bulb but not irritatingly so. Much lighting in my house is 12 volt 20 watt bulbs (T3 base) and I have not found an LED replacement that fits in the fixtures (too large). Specialty bulbs are not on the extinction list yet.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: QRP, 12/10/2013 10:27:03 AM     (No. 9647994)

I think they can still make and sell rough duty incandescent bulbs. Look for them on the internet.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: oceanbeach, 12/10/2013 10:30:53 AM     (No. 9648006)

I love both LED and florescent bulbs in some applications. In others I prefer incandescent bulbs. I´ve used florescent bulbs since the 80s. But even if I thought florescent and LED bulbs were better for all applications, I would NEVER support a ban on incandescent bulbs.

I´ll stock up for those few applications where I prefer them.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 12/10/2013 10:59:29 AM     (No. 9648065)

Do what I do. Buy "rough service" bulbs on the internet. About $4 for a 75W. Don´t know how long these will be produced, but try it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: clw54, 12/10/2013 11:06:23 AM     (No. 9648078)

Cree didn´t usher in the end. The Democrat party with an assist from Bush and Upton did it.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/10/2013 11:10:36 AM     (No. 9648087)

(a long series of complicated Chinese oaths and curses)



This is an alien species from a cool sun planet trying to take over

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Reply 22 - Posted by: plex, 12/10/2013 11:29:43 AM     (No. 9648127)

Cree bulb update. They do work with a dimmer BUT the flicker is hard to take. As expected, because dimmers work by chopping the voltage supply. The incandescent filament filters the flicker nicely. I have seen Phillips bulbs on dimmers and they don´t flicker but are hideously expensive. The power supply on the Cree must be very simple (hence cheaper) and the bulbs are unacceptable in dimmer applications.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: joew9, 12/10/2013 11:31:36 AM     (No. 9648134)

I only care about saving money by reducing my power bill. I hate being forced by the government to do something for a reason (AGW) that appears to be scientific Barbara Streisand.

These figures assume the Cree 25,000 hr life span is real. I have doubts. But if it´s even close then I can save lots of money with the high priced LED bulb. I use the price of a Home Depot Cree 60W LED bulb and compare to an incandescent. I use the cost of electricity in Georgia which is fairly cheap now but will be going up as Obama closes more and more of our coal fired plants, again based on scientific Barbara Streisand.
It takes 16.7 1,500 hour bulbs to equal the 25,000 hours of an LED bulb.

pwr lifetime #bulbs pwr_cost bulb$ totbulb$ tot_pwr$ total$
60W 1500hrs 17bulbs $0.11/kWhr $00.75 $12.50 $165 $178
10W 25000hrs 1bulb $0.11/kWhr $13.00 $13.00 $28 $41
(paste table into spreadsheet so the columns line up.)

A substantial savings of $178-$41=$137. Plus if the 25000 hour is real then I don´t have to bother with replacing the bulbs for years. Especially good in locations where replacing requires ladders. And since it´s much less heat the bulb socket lasts longer.

If the light is for reading I prefer a high CRI wide spectrum bulb like the GE Reveal. No cost savings there at all. Bulb expensive and the power consumption is high. But a better light than halogen and less IR to make you sweat.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 12/10/2013 11:49:24 AM     (No. 9648163)

#12 is right. The government picking winners did nothing but screw up technological progress. The LED bulbs are great. Cree and Philips both have a wide range of them. Availability and prices would both have been significantly better had the government stayed out of the market.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chumley, 12/10/2013 12:25:55 PM     (No. 9648248)

I haven´t tried the LED bulbs yet because of the expense. The CF´s are ok for area lighting as long as I get the yellow and not the blue. Trying to read by CF causes my eyes to hurt something awful.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/10/2013 12:57:16 PM     (No. 9648301)

oven bulbs, refrigerator bulbs, and vintage easy bake ovens. Much of the heritage we remember cast aside like holey socks. Grrrrrr The industry did to our light bulbs what the music industry did --destroyed our LP collections. Dare we mention televisions? Progress is not necessarily forward momentum Progress stinks at times.

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WASHINGTON- Seven million people signed up, so there is an appetite for President Barack Obama´s health care law, but that doesn´t guarantee success for the country´s newest social program. Big challenges are lurking for the next enrollment season, which starts Nov. 15. Chief among them are keeping premiums and other consumer costs in check, and overhauling an enrollment process that was advertised as customer-friendly but turned out to be an ordeal. "They have demonstrated the law can work, but we are a ways off from being able to judge its success," said Larry Levitt, an expert on health insurance markets

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