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Feds making new rules for senior drivers
USA Today, by Matt Schmitz

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 12/8/2013 9:44:55 AM

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a new five-year strategic plan to improve safety for elderly drivers and passengers. Although they are statistically among the safest on the road, the number of older drivers is increasing dramatically — and with it, that group´s numbers of injuries and deaths. Since 2003, the population of older adults, defined as age 65 and older, has increased by 20% and the number of licensed older drivers increased by 21% to 35 million in 2012, according to NHTSA. Last year, NHTSA reported that 5,560 people older than 65 died and 214,000 were injured

In my thirties impaired depth perception put paid to driving. Experience with many different drivers shown that a significant number of people of all ages who admit to depth perception problems are faking the test. In the "senior" category I see many older drivers who generally don´t travel far from their own neighborhoods and some won´t use the interstates. A 78-year old who often gives me a ride is an excellent driver. True, there are some problems with older drivers. But how are they to travel independently? A significant number have no access to senior transport services.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MDConservative, 12/8/2013 9:51:51 AM     (No. 9645241)

How about we enforce the laws on the book...for drivers of ALL ages? Yesterday I had three accident-potential situations arise in a short foray to the supermarket. none involved a senior driver. In fact, all three involved middle-aged drivers ignoring signs and signals. Fix that first. It isn´t just "speed" that kills.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/8/2013 9:53:32 AM     (No. 9645246)

Haven´t the FEDS messed up enough in this country already?
My license is a STATE license..butt OUT, feds.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 9:59:27 AM     (No. 9645255)

Once again the fearless Fed has found another fiasco with which to foist its foibles on frustrated taxpayers.
Posts 1 &2 are both correct. Get the phones and testing outlawed for all drivers and leave law abiding Seniors alone!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 10:00:30 AM     (No. 9645256)

#3, should have been texting, not testing.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: 2dogs, 12/8/2013 10:09:07 AM     (No. 9645268)

Seriously? You think you can mess with old baby boomers´ driving independence? There would be unbelievable backlash.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/8/2013 10:12:46 AM     (No. 9645274)

First, kill all the statisticians !

Having admitted that the increase (in elderly injuries) was totally a function of the aging of our country, they then proceed to butt in with more, new ´Programs´.

Government types much prefer tilting at windmills. They do so damn badly when given do-able and measurable and necessary projects.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: horacer, 12/8/2013 10:15:07 AM     (No. 9645277)

Fed interference is never helpful. Kids and women putting on make-up while driving are more dangerous than seniors. What´s the DUI rate for seniors. I´ll bet not that high. How many seniors text and drive? Again I´ll bet it´s not that high. I´m all for safer cars, but not Fed designed safer cars.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mildred, 12/8/2013 10:29:21 AM     (No. 9645293)

Did I miss something in the article or is some info missing? They state there was a ´spike´ in accidents but don´t state whether these were single-car accidents or accidents caused by seniors or younger drivers. If seniors don´t talk on the phone, text or put make-up on while fighting with children, how can they say that seniors are more responsible for the accidents? Some seniors cause accidents because of over-medication while younger drivers are more likely to drive while under the influence of other substances. So, who is really responsible for the rise in accidents involving seniors? Younger drivers have busier lives, drive faster, are more distracted but this report says accidents involving seniors are rising dramatically. Really? So who is really causing those deaths and injuries?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stonepony, 12/8/2013 10:29:27 AM     (No. 9645294)

in a totalitarian state freedom of movement is not looked upon with favor. one must control its citizens in every aspect of their lives from what they know to what they think to what they do

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Reply 10 - Posted by: maggie2u, 12/8/2013 10:34:21 AM     (No. 9645301)

So, will all those who are already over 65 be grandfathered in?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/8/2013 10:41:05 AM     (No. 9645310)

I didn´t drive 55 and won´t even read any Fed regulations.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/8/2013 10:44:11 AM     (No. 9645316)

Once again attempting to stick their nose into state´s business. Duct tape will never fix stupid, but it will muffle the sound. I´ve got a brand new pair of roller skates.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: sailannapolis, 12/8/2013 10:46:21 AM     (No. 9645320)

It amazes me how we forget that the boomers are a large group! and of course there will be more over 65 I don´t trust the gov because they manipulate all numbers to justify their goals

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/8/2013 10:54:04 AM     (No. 9645330)

Two things right off the bat , you NHTSA wits. There is an ever increasing number of older drivers as we boomers age and two, it matters not since I don´t have a U.S. drivers license.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: richwill, 12/8/2013 11:00:49 AM     (No. 9645340)

The feds will force the states to change rules by withholding federal funds for highways. They have did it before and will do it again. Remember the instigation of revenue sharing?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rakasha, 12/8/2013 11:07:00 AM     (No. 9645348)

You all still do not understand how our new Government works. This is not about safety, aging or even nannyism. It is about moving another step toward Statism and Totalitarianism.

Vehicle safety. A Government agency will now be put in control of vehicle engineering. Black boxes will be a necessity along with always enabled GPS. Speed limiters, automatic third party shut off switches and possibly pre-approved driving plans will be discussed.

Data collection. There are many more ways to track and monitor peoples actions, locations and behaviour. They will be implemented in the name of ´road safety´.

Driver behavior. Mandatory annual or bi-annual behavior modification classes. (Think Government run schools for grown-ups.) For those who plan to thwart the Government run medical system, mandatory annual or bi-annual examinations (including psychological assessments), during which end-of-life ´plans´ will be discussed.

When all is said and done many people, not only seniors, will lose their driving privileges and be relegated to well planned ´communities´, where all their needs - as determined by Government - will be provided in such a way that they do not need to drive.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: comstock, 12/8/2013 11:13:56 AM     (No. 9645353)

In 50 years of driving I´ve been rear-ended twice: Once by a car full of stoners, the second time by a woman lighting a cigarette (I could see her clearly in my rear view mirror as she barreled into me at 65 mph.

If the NHSTA need something to do go after the cellphone users, makeup appliers, cigarette lighters, radio tuners, recreational pharmaceutical users, drunks, those with slow reaction times, driving cars with bald tires and bad brakes.

Meanwhile they can pry my cold dead hand off my 6-speed shift lever.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mozey, 12/8/2013 11:17:53 AM     (No. 9645359)

Note that this vacant article is in USA Today, which is a great tool for leftist scare tactics. There are just as many dumb people among the elderly as there are among the middle aged. So, as the Feds know darn well they cannot dictate State license bureaus, this is a scare tactic article to keep many elderly drives at home.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jasmine, 12/8/2013 11:27:18 AM     (No. 9645370)

I see. The well known carnage caused by illegal aliens driving under the influence is of no concern to our amnesty-promoting federal government.

Creepily, it is more interested in monitoring the habits of law abiding, licensed drivers who also happen to be US citizens of a certain age.

Why am I not surprised?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: devnull, 12/8/2013 11:27:21 AM     (No. 9645371)

These silly Marxists and their five-year plans. If it isn´t the economy, it´s driving or some other thing in which they have no business meddling.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/8/2013 11:28:43 AM     (No. 9645372)

Most senior drivers are cautious, drive slow, obey the rules, and use common sense, Many do not drive after dark because they understand they can no longer see as well as they should
in order to drive safely. Also many use another person to drive when necessary, such as after dark. I am in all the above categories. I have been involved in two accidents in the past 28 years, both while I was standing still at red lights, and much younger drivers decided to use my car for target practice ( one arrested for drunk driving ). the real problem on the roads is speeding, weaving, tailgating, disobeying signals and signs, aggressiveness, paying no attention while driving while using cell phones, and so forth, and few senior drivers take these actions. Lastly, whenever I drive AT the speed limit, others pass me, legally or not, because they drive above the speed limit. Virtually the only drivers on the road that obey the speed limits ARE senior drivers. When families are aware that a senior member can no longer drive safely, they make all attempts to have the person turn in their license. Many do so voluntarily. How old was that movie star
that recently crashed in Calif ? Famous for speed. Hardly 65 yet. I know my limits and do all I can to remain within them. I am well aware that as I grow older My abilities are less than they were when younger. When a 4X4 is driving one foot behind me is that their fault or my fault ? When they drive 50 MPH in bad weather is that their fault or my fault? The Federal Government should stay out of state controlled activities/

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Reply 22 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/8/2013 11:31:52 AM     (No. 9645377)

It´s not just texting and gadgets in the hands of drivers but ignoring all the drunk illegals without insurance or DL. They probably kill more families and wipe out seniors than any thing when they aren´t murdering them. Watch the news in Albuquerque New Mexico for one night.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: skedaddle, 12/8/2013 11:37:11 AM     (No. 9645383)

Typical USA Today article - says nothing. But I have a suggestion: quit paying cops to run speed traps and make the cops patrol the roads for unsafe driving like they used to.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: kafir091101, 12/8/2013 11:46:49 AM     (No. 9645394)

It’s the arrogance that turns control freaks into Fascists!

Arrogance and control. It’s their religion.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 12/8/2013 12:05:12 PM     (No. 9645417)

My town is about 40% Hispanic now. I would guess about half are illegals. The illegals can´t get a license in Georgia but drive anyway and frequently drive drunk. Our local paper has a list of arrests every morning. Several will be for DUI and forgery (fake drivers license).

They don´t seem to care..."we don´ need no steenking license"...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/8/2013 12:10:58 PM     (No. 9645425)

Both my parents´ driving skills fell off markedly around age 80, my Mom gave up driving for good reason and if my Dad had lived another year, he was probably going to do so as well. I take note for myself.

But I think technology will moot this all out over the next twenty years, my current car has all kinds of cute little warning beeps and squawks, and the self-driving cars are on the horizon. This will probably result in some self-driving taxis, and maybe lots of old people will prefer these. Call them Obamacabs, right?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/8/2013 12:11:30 PM     (No. 9645426)

(1)the number of licensed older drivers increased by 21% to 35 million in 2012, according to NHTSA.

(2) 3% spike in fatalities and a 16% spike in injuries compared with 2011.

Statistics aren´t my strong point ... but doesn´t this indicate that the death/injury combined rate is did not increase at the same rate as the driver population increased?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 12/8/2013 12:27:22 PM     (No. 9645444)

OMG, another federal "agency" telling me how to live my life!! Will this never cease?!? They´ll be prying my cold dead hand off my stick shift, as well. If anything might finally prompt a rebellion this might actually be it!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 12/8/2013 12:30:48 PM     (No. 9645451)

Clearly, these "agencies" need to create these "programs" in order to justify their continued budgets/existence! ENOUGH!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: keekng, 12/8/2013 12:33:22 PM     (No. 9645454)

There is an old saying about figures not lying but liars figuring.
They claim accidents involving seiors have increased but they didn´t mention how many more seniors are now driving.
Just one more batch of federal excrement.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Babsathome, 12/8/2013 12:40:05 PM     (No. 9645460)

Next move by the Federal Govt would be to justify more federally funded mass transit, and oh federally funded Union jobs for bus drivers. Then maybe just grab the seniors property and move them into "homes"" till we drain them. Then the little Fascists will pass out the blue pills. The Feds need to back off in so many areas , but not worth listing them.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: jackie, 12/8/2013 12:59:00 PM     (No. 9645480)

Feds want to keep those Seniors alive so THEY can kill them off by denying healthcare... Also.. we know they will let old illegals drive.. I hate the Feds and all their meddling ways. Can´t they just get the hell out of our lives?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/8/2013 1:05:07 PM     (No. 9645483)

#30 - they do. See what I wrote at #27.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 1:34:15 PM     (No. 9645519)

Thanks, #33. Saw it after I posted.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Penney, 12/8/2013 3:02:59 PM     (No. 9645598)

This statist micro-managing Administration apparently really does have it in for senior citizens. ...What, (& whom), will they conjure to target next?!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: bluebonnet, 12/8/2013 3:56:50 PM     (No. 9645643)

"...a five year strategic plan..." Well there ya go! The Communist 5-year plan.

I haven´t had a "moving violation" ticket for over 39 years. I avoid driving at night because of vision issues...and my sensible side tells me that I don´t see well at night, so I don´t drive! It really is that simple.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 12/8/2013 4:14:05 PM     (No. 9645652)

#21 Hit he nail on the head.
Aggressive drivers really irk me.
1. Merges to one lane. They do all they can to squeeze by. I always let them in because a car length in traffic doesn´t me that much to me.
2. To me a Yellow light says be ready to stop not rev up to beat the light.
3. Most drivers forget the Right Turn on Red requires that one comes to a full stop first.
4. I don´t trust yield signs for other cars when I have the right of way. I make sure I have a clear path.
5. On green I always take a quick look left and right. To make sure some jerk isn´t trying to beat the yellow.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/8/2013 4:24:28 PM     (No. 9645659)

This is about control.

The stats they cite do not make sense - do not support their argument for this plan.

And isn´t it ironic that the preezy´s Uncle Omar has had two DUIs, one of which involved his hitting a police car.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/8/2013 5:32:21 PM     (No. 9645729)

If the liberals want to lose elections, all they have to do is instill in the geezers the idea that they are making it harder for old people to drive their automobiles.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: judy, 12/8/2013 5:46:12 PM     (No. 9645737)

When was the last time the feds saw a senior citizen doing road rage, texting, talking on the phone & a drive by shooting?

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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can

Chelsea Clinton no longer
ruling out politics

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Katz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 11:57:36 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton says when people ask her these days whether she wants to go into politics, her answer isn’t an automatic “no.” The 34-year-old former first daughter told Fast Company in an interview published Monday, “for so long the answer was just a visceral no. Not because I had made any conscientious, deliberate decision, but since people had been asking for as long as literally I could remember, it was no." Now, the only child of former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explains, "I live in a city and a state and a country where I

Glaring limits of the Civil Rights
Act: We need to redistribute wealth

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Salon Magazine, by Matt Bruenig    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/14/2014 7:20:41 PM     Post Reply
Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime. The Civil Rights Act was a mild reform, all things considered, but one conservatives fought with vigor and one many conservatives are still bitter about to this day. When the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, the primary purpose was to root out discrimination in public accommodations (like hotels and movie theaters)

Megyn Kelly and the
Sandberg Head Shaker

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American Thinker, by Richard F. Miniter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/15/2014 9:16:05 AM     Post Reply
Megyn Kelly’s "Kelly File" is a great news show. She’s incisive, informed and customarily handles the toughest guest with aplomb. But her lengthy interview of Facebook C.O.O. Sheryl Sandberg about her second book in the Lean In series Lean In: For Graduates was a head shaker. Amazing that she of all people allowed Sandberg to restring the same old, same old, shamed, and shopworn feminist myths about women and girls and then jangle it in front of her viewing audience like something new out of the box. Indeed Kelly all but genuflected in front of this woman. Kept her on thru

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
Prayer Breakfast with invocation

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

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