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Ted Cruz and Mike Lee
being vindicated on shutdown

American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson

Original Article

Posted By:magnante, 12/7/2013 11:10:12 AM

The GOP establishment is loath to admit it, but the government shutdown is turning out to be a brilliant political chess move on the part of Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. The Obamacare disaster, fully predictable by anyone who understands the effect of incentives and the fundamental incompetence of academic theorists and left wing ideologues, has made the go-for-broke attempt to stop it an obvious profile in courage. (snip) The budget and debt limit fights lie ahead. Cruz and Lee have laid out the path for us. The GOP can now say that that because the Democrats have shown

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Reply 1 - Posted by: dman, 12/7/2013 11:24:49 AM     (No. 9644334)

Interesting take. However, it does not address the wisdom of the Framers to give the purse strings to Congress in the first place. From time to time Congress must use this weapon against the natural drift towards tyranny, or lose it. As we have seen with this and other "shutdowns": it only slows down the bureaucracy ; it does not really shut down the government - let alone the country.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bluehouse, 12/7/2013 12:16:34 PM     (No. 9644384)

The lofo voters may not even remember or know anything about the 2009-10 passing of Obamacare. The Cruz and Lee (and a few brave others) stand reminded voters or let voters know those who are totally responsible for the ACA: the dems and Obama. For those who do pay attention, Obama´s pettiness backed by the dems during the shutdown was stomach turning.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/7/2013 12:30:25 PM     (No. 9644396)

The next generation of the GOP establishment will be the first of their ilk to acknowledge the prescience of Cruz and Lee. This generation is too worried about losing their power and influence to ever acknowledge the wisdom of the people (personified through their duly elected representatives, Cruz and Lee)

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/7/2013 12:48:08 PM     (No. 9644420)

Meanwhile - FOX news is changing their slogan from ´Fair and Balanced´ to "We Told You So!"

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Doctor P, 12/7/2013 1:02:42 PM     (No. 9644428)

Another Texan noted the probability of success at the Alamo and still drew a line in the sand. His prediction was borne out quickly with fatal results.

Yet just mere weeks later Texas won independence at San Jacinto.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ivehadit, 12/7/2013 3:09:46 PM     (No. 9644530)

Love Thomas Lifson.

Just as we predicted! Even earlier than expected, imho. And, as I wrote last month, not a SINGLE establishment republican better try to take credit for Cruz´ and Lee´s success. They owe them major apologies.

Yes, I see great strides being made over the January budget deadlines....if the republicans can stop eating their soggy cucumber sandwiches and listen to Ted and Mike!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Kerryman, 12/7/2013 4:41:37 PM     (No. 9644588)

Our first weekly Tea Party meeting after the end of the shutdown we reminded our supporters that though things looked bleak, they were about to change dramatically. While we had no clue about the amateur hour known as the "website", we knew that massive cancellations, rate increases and deductible increases were coming. The beauty of that is it is very personal and the impact is direct and the victims will be constantly reminded through billing and deductibles and sadly unnecessary cancellations.

Finally, your message against this is simple:
There is no reason to touch the insurance, doctors and hospitals of 285,000,000 Americans to cover roughly 15,000,000 uninsured Americans while leaving 30,000,000 still uninsured.

Meanwhile, the constant drip, drip, drip of cancellations, rate increase and deductible increases will continue throughout the year ending with tens of millions of cancellations hitting for 1/1/2015. Buy lots of popcorn to watch this show and invite Ted, Mike, Marco and Rand to join you. Mitch, Johnny Mac, Lindsey and Texas Johnny can go on MSNBC!!!!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: yuban, 12/7/2013 4:54:03 PM     (No. 9644599)

Shh, don´t let the Moderates hear about this.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 12/7/2013 11:11:53 PM     (No. 9644845)

I argued for the shutdown in terms very similar to Lifson while it was happening. It was crucial that Republicans not accede to funding Obamacare without a fight. GOP proposals to fund it and "fix" it with minor changes missed the point: If they touched it, they would have co-owned it. Ted Cruz singlehandedly made the GOP the official opposition party against Obamacare. Ironically, even Republican establishment members who opposed Cruz´s efforts can now benefit from his achievement.

Again, you´re welcome.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/8/2013 12:33:45 AM     (No. 9644880)

Well if it´s get tough time remember the entire House of Reps is up for election every two years. That means GOP as well as Dems.Both sides need a good dose of purge.
The Senate needs wholesale cleaning and too many critters have been there too long.
Cruz and Lee could use help in finding real candidates to challenge the old corrupt foggy bottom golums.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: NYMom, 12/8/2013 9:22:23 AM     (No. 9645190)

Just a thought. I wonder if the GOP will have more leverage for the next "budget" battle in January to start cutting funding to Obamacare now that Ted Cruz and Mike Lee were proven right after all.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 12/8/2013 10:39:56 AM     (No. 9645309)

Where are the Ted Cruz haters today? The ones that tell us how he is doing what he does for fame and fortune, and for his self interest only.

They should wash that crow down with some water, then come on in and tell us again how the GOP establishment is going to lead the way to a great American recovery.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: steph_gray, 12/8/2013 10:44:19 AM     (No. 9645317)

#10 - GOP needs a solid majority in both House and Senate in 2014 - without that the country is sunk. If there were a shoe-in (not to mention authentic) tea partier in a race where the RINO was guaranteed to lose, I´d support that. But otherwise I think the housecleaning has to wait until 2016 when with grace we may be voting for a President Cruz who can sweep in some real reformers on coat tails.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/8/2013 10:54:03 AM     (No. 9645329)

I agree, #13, the numbers are crucial. It doesn´t matter if we felt good about voting for a candidate who was doomed. Increase the numbers in the House, take the Senate and then we have not only bottled up Obama, but are poised for a 2016 victory. We have lots of good men and women from which to select and are much more fortunate than the Dems who not only do not have a good stable, but are watching their best go down with Obama.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/8/2013 11:55:41 AM     (No. 9645405)

If, and that´s a big word, Republicans manage to hold onto the House and can gain control of the Senate, they would effectively control all federal spending. And they could cut off ALL spending on Obozocare. Of course, that would require the assistance of the RINO´s. Meanwhile, I will continue to pray for GOD to continue to bless America. (As the song says)

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 12/8/2013 12:15:00 PM     (No. 9645433)

Forget Cruz and Lee.

I hear John Boehner is starting to get mad. Starting to get really mean-mad.

Wow! Watch the sparks fly now! Go get ´em, Mean John!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/8/2013 12:17:35 PM     (No. 9645435)

Yep, this is what I was saying at the time, too, in the face of the Ted Cruz haters screeching "he had no backup plan!" He didn´t need a backup plan. He needed to show that there were Republicans willing to fight against this thing regardless of political benefit. Short term, it looked like the Dems had won that round. Longer term, it´s something the GOP can hang their hat on.

The thing is, we should never forget the ones who stabbed TC in the back. If they are interested in keeping their seats, they have a lot of convincing to do.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Republic Can, 12/8/2013 12:28:37 PM     (No. 9645446)

#13 and those who would support Ted Cruz for president or vice president; do you know what you are proposing? Regardless of his courage and foresight, pushing him into those offices would open the door for the dems to run all manner of foreign born dopplegangers for the highest office in the land just as they did with obama. If we, especially as tea/conservatives, validate this policy by buying into it when convenient, we lose our constitutional innocence and join the march to perdition.

Remember there are generations who will follow us and who need to see a firm constitutional path laid down. I consider your exhaltations of Cruz absolutely appropriate; just misplaced IMHO.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/8/2013 1:14:15 PM     (No. 9645490)

@#11: The GOP leadership stated months ago there will not be another government shutdown. They already conceded. They have taken the blame for something that was not of their making. Therefore, the only conclusion is they are going to give in to the Rats.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Avogadra, 12/8/2013 3:58:55 PM     (No. 9645644)

I´m a Texan who voted for Ted Cruz and gladly sent money to support his Senate campaign. I appreciate his stand for the Constitution whenever I see him on TV or hear him on radio.

But I have a problem. I keep getting phone calls from his people asking for money. What´s up with that? And the last two calls have been downright rude, which is unheardof in Texas. I left messages at two of his offices about the calls but heard nothing back. Has anybody else experienced this?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 12/8/2013 5:20:51 PM     (No. 9645714)

Tom Cotton

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Aria, 12/8/2013 11:09:57 PM     (No. 9645928)

#20 - Are you sure these calls are actually from Cruz´s office?

Just a thought.

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