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Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
New York Post, by John Crudele

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/7/2013 5:16:05 AM

The most curious thing of all about the November jobs report released on Friday was the huge drop in the unemployment rate — and the fact that the Labor Department chose not to disclose that the data going into that figure are under investigation for falsification. On Nov. 19, I broke the news in my column that the Census Bureau, which collects data that goes into the jobless rate on behalf of Labor, had caught one of its enumerators fabricating interviews in 2010. The culprit said back then (and to me during an interview) that he was told to do so by

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/7/2013 5:30:12 AM     (No. 9643904)

Another "garbage in, garbage out" report from the government! What a surprise!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/7/2013 5:49:12 AM     (No. 9643912)

This writer seems to be the only one in the country that cares about Obama´s rigging job numbers.This is just another lost in the shuffle pattern of deceit that has gone on since he was elected.

The next best thing to improvement is just saying it´s happening,whether it is or not.I thought I heard a blurb that they counted the shutdown workers being rehired as a new job/

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Reply 3 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 6:21:42 AM     (No. 9643926)

Let´s do a little farmer figuring here:

1). As I remember 250,000.00 jobs were created.
2). 42% percent of them were government jobs.
3). So, 105,000.00 were government jobs
4). and 145,000.00 were private sector jobs.
We all know government jobs pay more than private sectors jobs, but let´s say they pay the same (an advantage for my critics), to make my point. Then, to keep the numbers low, let´s say on average the total jobs pay an average of $5,000.00 per year.

$105,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $525,000,000.00
$145,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $725,000,000.00

Government jobs produce NOTHING. They only enforce federal and State laws, and their salaries are paid with tax payers dollars.

Now, let´s say the taxes paid by the new jobs are 30%.

The private sector pays. $217,500.000.00 in taxes.

The government workers pay. $157,000.000.00 in taxes (that´s assuming they ´really do´ pay their taxes).

So that leaves a net $368,000,000.00 that must be paid by the private sectors´ taxes for the government jobs, BUT WAIT! The new private sector jobs only pay in $217,500,000.00 leaving a shortfall of $150,500,000.00 unpaid for the government jobs.

Bottom line: The new job totals leaves a shortfall of 31%, which is added to the national debt.

Double check my figures . . . I didn´t.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PageTurner, 12/7/2013 6:32:34 AM     (No. 9643935)

The only other country that gets caught doing this is the clownshow in Argentina.

Thanxalot, Obama. No wonder Cretina Fernandez says she knows deep down that Obama is a Peronist.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/7/2013 6:52:30 AM     (No. 9643948)

Well, #4, deep down, I know that Zippy is something that starts with a "P," too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/7/2013 7:03:22 AM     (No. 9643958)

The jobless rate´s on a downward veer
It´s wine and roses starting next year
And those objects in your rearview mirror? They´re farther away than they appear.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: privateer, 12/7/2013 7:48:31 AM     (No. 9644012)

I didn´t bother to check the calculations, 3, after I read: $5,000 per job. What kind of government job pays $5,000? Did you mean $50,000?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 12/7/2013 7:54:54 AM     (No. 9644021)

7 - perhaps he was using $5000 just to make the numbers more simple. He could have posed any income figure but the extensions might have been too cumbersome for the sake of his argument...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 12/7/2013 7:56:54 AM     (No. 9644024)

Since they don´t mind fabricating numbers, why not report that the unemployment rate is zero?!
Oh of course, even the lofos will know that is wrong because they have no job. And they don´t want to alienate their lofos.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 8:10:00 AM     (No. 9644041)

Thank you, #8. You are right.

I probably should have pointed out that some government salaries are augmented by fees paid by those being served, as well.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Deedo, 12/7/2013 8:23:05 AM     (No. 9644054)

Since the federal government can fudge the numbers on employment, it´s probably better than safe to believe that they are fudging the numbers.

If the federal government can deceive the public, they do. If they can break the law for political gain (meaning, not get caught) they do. If they can use the levers of power that they swore to protect from abuse give them and their allies political advantage and help hurt their enemies, they do.

This is why the healthcare Web site problems are so damnable for them. No way to really spin this out of sight. Who you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bubby, 12/7/2013 8:38:00 AM     (No. 9644078)

Wasn´t there an article just the other day stating that unemployment had been over 7% for 60 months? As soon as that bad news hit the wire viola the unemployment ticks down to 7%. This Administration and the Democratic bureaucrats at Dept of Labor cook the books once again to help obama. All these unemployment numbers are fake and meaningless.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/7/2013 8:38:14 AM     (No. 9644079)

If something appears to be unbelievable it is likely a lie, and even more so considering it comes from the obama gang.

That obama sure lies alot.

Speaking of lies, there is another big lie coming down the road soon. Anyone notice the 2013 deficit? The debt clock has it at less than 700 billion and DECREASING, but the federal debt is climbing. Wait for the left to crow about the deficit being under a trillion dollars at years end. Unbelievable and probably a lie.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: maryc, 12/7/2013 8:50:15 AM     (No. 9644090)

Just ask yourself if you know anyone tho signed up for Obamacare or eh found a job last month ......neither do I !

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 12/7/2013 8:53:51 AM     (No. 9644101)

For the past 4 years the monthly reports have been showing twice as many filing for unemployment and getting new jobs.

350,000 newly unemployed vs 175,000 new jobs.

Then again these figures come from Obama´s boys and who would believe them.

Aside from that Obama has said in his acceptance and "state of the union" diatribes that his #1 priority is JOBS. I can just ask "How is that going Bubba?"

But, who listens or roots for him anyway? The low intelligence voters?


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/7/2013 9:03:44 AM     (No. 9644116)

Brother O needs a distraction from the mess called Obamacare and the devastation it is wreaking on our economy/country.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Joe vann, 12/7/2013 9:05:21 AM     (No. 9644118)

A big problem with any big central country government is there is the tendency not to hold their fellow workers accountable.( it is the union mentality) The USA did hold their employees and elected officials to some degree of accountability and integrity for many decades. We did adhere to our checks and balances, which served us well.

Has anyone in the regime been punished or lost his job with the regime, after more fraud, sandals, lies, cover ups and incompetences know to man kind ?

We were a nation built on the law, small central government and integrity--no more. The corruption has spread like the plague to all parts of the government and media.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: krause, 12/7/2013 9:06:37 AM     (No. 9644120)

From what we have seen about this fraudulent, failing, administration so far, I think we can safely assume they will, unethically, if not criminally, use any means, including using government agencies, to make themselves look good.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/7/2013 9:08:02 AM     (No. 9644121)

7 percent? Wait a minute, if you can do the math, you know that 41 percent business going under and it´s only 7 percent unemployment? AAAA can you do the math folks? No way is that right.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/7/2013 9:46:34 AM     (No. 9644180)

Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
Ya think!

When you have an administration that is built on the basis of lying about everything how could you not think that they are lying about this?

From the President down this administration has raise lying to an art form.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/7/2013 10:22:19 AM     (No. 9644241)

If you are going to tell a whopper with fuzzy math why show 7% bring it all the way down to 3%. To use Hillary´s words, "what difference does it make?"

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sherlock1, 12/7/2013 10:28:33 AM     (No. 9644255)

It is safe to assume that any scam or fraud that an honest person with no criminal background can possibly imagine, a Democrat will have already invented, perfected, executed and gotten away with, while being praised in the media and probably awarded a medal for it.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 12/7/2013 10:29:07 AM     (No. 9644256)

John Credule is fearless and corageous in his reporting, we owe him a big thank you for challenging the word of the Cabal. This is all fake and designed for one purpose, to continue enabling the Tsar to inflict his will upon the masses, with the adoration of the Servants in the media...nothing more.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs, 12/7/2013 11:03:50 AM     (No. 9644299)

I´m not fond of liars. But as others have pointed out, if his lips are moving. . . . I am commanded to love this man, and even more difficult, to PRAY for him. Can I tell you how hard this is?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 11:06:01 AM     (No. 9644304)

....and I´m sure this will be the last time this story ever surfaces

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 12/7/2013 11:13:18 AM     (No. 9644317)

The figures provided here are solid and convincing but then again government grading itself has always been a farce.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Objectivity, 12/7/2013 11:49:36 AM     (No. 9644357)

B´berg & Y-hoo Finance breathlessly (so does Barrons for that matter) tout these ´improvements´ when serious issues exist as to the ´methodology´ & ultimate integrity of these economic reports.

Can we all agree that if this were GWB these same financial & general ´news´ media would neverendingly harp on ´questions´ about the veracity of these econ rpts?

Some day I expect to see a book by some expert which exposes & documents how fraudulent this ´econ´ rptg is - say like PRChina and soviet style ´rpts´. This is like the function now of the old ´ward heeler" (note: MichelleO´s father was such in Chicago) to ´ensure´ voters voted a certain way on time, etc. So too, laying ´factual´ basis for gov´t econ surveys........

Look at the failure of the news media while Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter and many more make fine livings as propagandists. This influences the already ideologically pre-disposed wannabe ´reporterettes´ at B´berg & Y-hoo who fantasize about becoming the next Ezra Klein or Arianna Huffington. There is no professionalism standard in the ´news´ media except maybe Fox, IBD and certainly now Breitbart & Daily Caller.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/7/2013 12:34:40 PM     (No. 9644405)

I do not believe any jobs report that comes out because they are always incorrect. This one is no different. Rigged? Worthless propaganda is more like it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/7/2013 1:11:27 PM     (No. 9644440)

I expected that from the first announcement. Why would we trust their numbers? Be serious.

Fox´s Jenna Lee and others have gone so in the tank for Obie that they too were trumpeting these "wonderful" job numbers. We expect that of Shep Smith, who was doing the same, but had hoped for better from some of the others. Jenna used to be at Fox Business. Oh, well.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/7/2013 1:24:15 PM     (No. 9644442)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-07/chart-day-us-labor-force-declines-25000-past-year-despite-24-million-rise-employable

Via Reuters:

"There may come a point where the financial markets say none of their debt is credible anymore and they can´t finance themselves," he told Reuters in the snow-covered Swedish capital, where he will receive his prize on Tuesday.

"If there is another recession, it is going to be worldwide."

Fama, who has been called the father of modern finance and shared the economics prize for research into market prices and asset bubbles, played down this week´s strong U.S. labor market data.

"I am not reassured at all," he said.

The U.S. jobless rate fell to a five-year low of 7.0 percent in November, and employers hired more workers than expected.

"The jobs recovery has been awful. The only reason the unemployment rate is 7 percent, which is high by historical standards in the U.S., is that people gave up looking for jobs," he said.

"I just don´t think we have come out of (recession) very well," he said.


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Reply 31 - Posted by: strike3, 12/7/2013 1:39:29 PM     (No. 9644452)

The way to measure unemployment in your area is to note how many 100% obese families are in front of you in the supermarket pushing three carts of groceries and paying with their guvmint credit cards. They don´t even bother to thank you for buying their food.

Why do they feel compelled to bring the whole family shopping every time? I guess all of that idle time lowers the standard for entertainment.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: bobn.t, 12/7/2013 4:56:53 PM     (No. 9644602)

You can´t believe anything from the gov´t bass tards, buzzards, or bull shippers.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Previouslyon24, 12/7/2013 5:24:08 PM     (No. 9644620)

FTA: "They had better figure it out soon. That drop in the unemployment rate might be the straw that sends the Fed into tightening mode." Glad the author is on top of the administration´s deceptions, but if this latest deception actually caused the Obama/Dems´ enabling Fed to stop printing the money supporting this phony recovery, that would be good. So much to fight and so little time. Impeachment still necessary, and now. Obama is a poison to this nation - - you don´t wait to throw out things rancid.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lencu255, 12/7/2013 6:59:38 PM     (No. 9644678)

In my 48 years living in the USSR I was sure that commie/fascist government lies.
But that is not the point - the point is that people are losing their way of living. The prices go up, the good paying jobs are scarce, decent healthcare becomes the thing of the past. The totalitarian government pays the drones/leeches each and every way they can: disability, unemployment. Cities and whole states either go bankrupt or are on the verge of it. So, the gov´t lies, what else is new. The soviets had early (or more rare, I don´t remember anymore) grandiose party meetings where they proclaimed "further betterment of our living levels" and we all new that it was sheer BS.
The sad thing here, in America, is that we, supposedly "free", voted it in!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/7/2013 7:50:55 PM     (No. 9644714)

In this new economy, it´s virtually impossible for future generations to select a career, work a 40 hr. week & strive to achieve career & improved lifestyle goals. And Pelosi said " They should thank us! Now they have more free time to do fun things!"

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Mickturn, 12/7/2013 9:32:45 PM     (No. 9644785)

DUH! Haven´t they ALL been rigged?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 9:41:06 PM     (No. 9644797)

We know they were rigged, and have been rigged for over 2 years now. Stop telling us the obvious and start actually doing something about it!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/8/2013 12:57:31 AM     (No. 9644887)

#37, John Crudele has been writing about government flim-flamming us with the numbers for a long time. His reporting seems accurate and detailed, but he can´t do it alone. Other media players need to get on the bandwagon.

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Many Americans have been watching with great consternation the ongoing struggle between the Federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the U.S. Marshals against Cliven Bundy and his family. There are no signs of either side relinquishing their position. Many onlookers have been informed that this dispute is over protecting the desert tortoise. But it is nothing of the sort. In fact, the reality of the dispute goes far underneath what is being talked about. The more appropriate source of the dispute is ground water as well as surface water -- this is a war over water. Cliven Bundy and his

Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins
´Range War´ With Feds

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ABC News, by Liz Fields    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/12/2014 3:33:27 PM     Post Reply
A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters. Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally. Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a "range war" against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of

Barbara Boxer Says Keystone
Pipeline a Cancer Risk

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Breitbart California, by William Bigelow    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/12/2014 6:54:45 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) is now accusing the Keystone pipeline of being a cancer risk. Her first point was that the pipeline “will bring 830,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into our nation every day.” She then segued to point #2 by asserting that the heavy tar sands oil will put people who live near refineries at risk for cancer: Significantly higher levels of dangerous air pollutants and carcinogens have been documented downwind from tar sands refineries, and in these areas people are suffering higher rates of the types of cancers linked to these toxic chemicals, including leukemia and

Why The Feds Chickened Out
On A Nevada Ranch

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Townhall, by Kevin McCullough    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/13/2014 11:55:18 AM     Post Reply
Let me obliterate a bit of confusion here: the Obama administration attempted to go to war with a rancher in Nevada. Let me amplify a little bit of truth: They tucked tail and have returned home. And let me add a bit of clarity: they had no choice! As the nation began to become familiar with the plight of the family of Cliven Bundy, many of us harkened back to another standoff in which the Federal government attempted to bully it´s outcome: Waco, Texas and the Branch Davidian massacre. It is telling that in the Nevada case the feds pulled out so

President Obama stands by Rev. Al Sharpton
while accusing Republicans of trying
to restrict the right to vote

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New York Daily News, by Celeste Katz & Annie Karni    Original Article
Posted By: Flyright- 4/12/2014 7:02:39 AM     Post Reply
President Obama stood Friday with the Rev. Al Sharpton and accused Republicans of trying to keep millions of Americans from voting, in a fiery speech days after new revelations about Sharpton’s past as an FBI informant. “The right to vote is threatened today in a way that it has not been since the Voting Rights Act became law nearly five decades ago,” Obama told the annual convention of Sharpton’s National Action Network in Manhattan. Obama’s appearance represented a presidential seal of approval of Sharpton’s role as a civil rights activist, amid the new revelations about how Sharpton used a wire to record

Why Hillary v. Jeb Would
Be Great for America

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Daily Beast, by Mark McKinnon    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 6:11:32 PM     Post Reply
They’re both qualified, respectful of each other (shocker!), and represent the vast majority of middle America. So what’s not to like about another Clinton/Bush race for 2016? When you mention the prospect of Clinton vs. Bush 2016 a funny thing happens. First, there is the reflexive response: "Oh no, not again. We don´t need more dynastic politics in this country." But upon further reflection, you realize Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton would be a great race and actually good for the country. Let´s review. QUALIFICATIONS—THEY’VE BOTH GOT THEM. Barack Obama won the presidency because in an election where the premium was on change, it mattered little

The world must shift to solar and wind
power rapidly to avoid catastrophic global
warming, say UN scientists in major report

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Ben Spencer    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 7:15:31 PM     Post Reply
A rapid shift to wind and solar power is needed if the world is to avoid catastrophic global warming, the United Nations warns in a crucial report today. Emissions of greenhouse gases need to be cut by up to 70 per cent before 2050 to control climate change, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says. ‘Large-scale changes in energy systems’ are required, with coal power stations to be switched off and replaced by wind and solar. And the transformation needs to be made in the next 15 years or controlling climate change will become increasingly harder and more expensive. The report was published

Nevada GOP removes social issues from platform,
moves ahead with pre-primary endorsements

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Associated Press, by Sandra Chereb    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/13/2014 3:48:58 PM     Post Reply
LAS VEGAS — The Nevada Republican Party stripped opposition to abortion and gay marriage from its platform Saturday as state convention delegates instead focused on judging fellow Republicans on their worthiness to serve in office and adherence to GOP values. The platform, with few changes, was adopted overwhelmingly as the Las Vegas convention stretched late into the evening. The vote mirrors that of the Clark County GOP, which voted earlier to remove platform language defining marriage as between a man and a woman and statements opposing abortion. Many Republicans are re-evaluating their strong stances on conservative social issues as public

Goodbye tea party, hello big tent
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Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/13/2014 5:08:01 AM     Post Reply
Say what you will about Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), but they know a train wreck when they see it. They also know when to separate themselves from the cranks and the losers on the right. Although both supported the shutdown and were heartily supported by tea party groups in their own Senate races, neither one has endorsed Matt Bevin in Kentucky, Milton Wolf in Kansas or Chris McDaniel in Mississippi. In fact, Cruz’s office confirms he hasn’t endorsed anyone in the primaries. He may weigh in after the primaries. Rand Paul has endorsed two very establishment

Video: Flash mob of women steal
$20,000 worth of sunglasses
from California store

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New York Daily News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/13/2014 10:50:38 AM     Post Reply
A brazen flash mob has been caught on camera storming a California store and making off with $20,000 worth of sunglasses. Surveillance footage shows eight women piling into a Sunglass Hut and crowding around display cases. Shielding workers from what they´re doing, they quickly stuff dozens of fashion specs into their bags. A store clerk pleads with them to stop, before running out of the shot to get help and dial 911. The thieves then all bolt outside and escape in a waiting SUV. The incident occurred at the Valencia Town Center mall, in Santa Clarita, at 3 p.m. on

Democrat Center Folds
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American Thinker, by Clarice Feldman    Original Article
Posted By: real fifi- 4/13/2014 7:44:30 AM     Post Reply
It’s hardly been a secret that in recent years the moderate center of the Democrat party has been driven away and what remains is a conglomeration of disparate blocs which, to date, the party has been able to treat as if there were no conflicting interests between them. As the midterm elections approach and the administration’s incompetence, along with the distaste for the president’s signature ObamaCare legislation, drive the party’s chances down further, the make-believe coalition of opposites may well crumble if the opposition doesn’t blow it. Democrats hope to retain control of the Senate and recapture the House by driving


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