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Baffling 400,000-Year-Old
Clue to Human Origins

New York Times, by Carl Zimmer

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Posted By:Hermoine, 12/5/2013 11:21:12 AM

Scientists have found the oldest DNA evidence yet of humans’ biological history. But instead of neatly clarifying human evolution, the finding is adding new mysteries. In a paper in the journal Nature, scientists reported Wednesday that they had retrieved ancient human DNA from a fossil dating back about 400,000 years, shattering the previous record of 100,000 years. The fossil, a thigh bone found in Spain, had previously seemed to many experts to belong to a forerunner of Neanderthals. But its DNA tells a very different story. It most closely resembles DNA from an enigmatic lineage of humans known as Denisovans. Until

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FTA: The new finding is hard to reconcile with the picture of human evolution that has been emerging based on fossils and ancient DNA.

Seems everywhere we turn, "evolution" keeps getting disproved, by Science.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/5/2013 11:38:54 AM     (No. 9641403)

The Sept 19 issue of Nature contained the following regarding ancient bear DNA.

"The mitochondrial genome of a Pleistocene cave bear (Ursus deningeri) has been reconstructed using extremely short DNA molecules from a bone that is more than 300,000 years old. Apart from rare specimens preserved in permafrost, the fossil is some 200,000 years older than any other material used to generate a complete DNA sequence."

It´s hard to get too excited about Nature´s clams of 400,000-Year-Old DNA. Right now, I would hold it in same regard as "global-warming type" sensationalism.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 12/5/2013 11:52:28 AM     (No. 9641430)

Hogwash!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: rabidrepublican, 12/5/2013 11:54:27 AM     (No. 9641435)

More settled science?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/5/2013 12:01:58 PM     (No. 9641457)

I was just reading about this earlier today in National Geographic Daily News on Facebook.

From what I understand, the mitochondrial DNA is easier to retrieve than Y-DNA. So, I don´t doubt the report. But - that only provides maternal lineage.

Whatever - fascinating stuff. My mitochondrial haplogroup originated in the same Iberian area - about 13,000 years ago.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131204-human-fossil-dna-spain-denisovan-cave/

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Reply 5 - Posted by: msjena, 12/5/2013 12:07:59 PM     (No. 9641466)

These "scientific" discoveries cannot be trusted unless they are studied and tested by those who are skeptical of the results. Would anyone believe a witness at trial who had not been cross-examined? Yet the scientific community does not allow anyone to challenge the orthodoxy that DNA can last for hundreds of thousands of years and that the earth is billions of years old.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: yuban, 12/5/2013 12:08:25 PM     (No. 9641467)

I will go by what the Bible teaches. Scientists always have an agenda to keep the grants coming.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/5/2013 12:40:38 PM     (No. 9641510)

One more chink in the armor of the pathetic theory of evolution.
- The universe is not "steady state", and is much younger than once thought.
- DNA is our genetic programming and does not mutate on its own, nor with x-radiation, or viruses.
-No evidence of "transitional species" exists anywhere in history.
- The fossil record tells of a very advanced, unique and diverse life-form before mankind existed, compressing even further the time required for "evolution."

Darwin worked from 18th century science when he plagerized the concept of evoultion and published it. It´s nothing but a game of speculation and connecting of dots based on physical observation. It tries to explain the "hardware" of creatures, but does nothing to address the "programming" of those creatures. Such as: How does a Bee learn to work communally and build a hive? How does a Robin learn to build a nest? How did the Bat learn to use its sonar? How do Monarch butterflies know how and when to migrate?

God created all His creatures in order that we may learn from them. Even the lowly mosquito told us how to build a hypodermic needle. Evolution is for total morons.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: trapper, 12/5/2013 1:55:19 PM     (No. 9641616)

Gotta love the DNA evidence that is coming faster and faster. I expect that very soon the entire "Out of Africa" theory will be tossed onto the ash heap of disproven theories along with "Clovis first," followed very soon thereafter by everything currently being taught as evolution. Sadly, anthropologists and others who have spent their careers teaching speculative theory as fact can be expected to first ignore the DNA evidence, then try to suppress it, and then retire.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: varkdriver, 12/5/2013 1:59:02 PM     (No. 9641619)

#7, additional question: Why do birds suddenly appear, every time, you are near?

#8: I lived in Clovis New Mexico for almost three years. We all noticed that the Clovis Man was found headed OUT of town, much like all of us wanted to be, as soon as possible.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Bpl40, 12/5/2013 2:05:27 PM     (No. 9641623)

This brings to mind several Michelle 0bama jokes. But I like posting here so will control myself.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 12/5/2013 2:25:12 PM     (No. 9641641)

What really puzzles me - - is that the female specimen was carrying rosary beads and the male specimen was wearing a yarmulke.

Was interfaith marriage prevalent 400,000 years ago? Who knew?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: toddh, 12/5/2013 2:45:48 PM     (No. 9641662)

Baffling to those who think in movie-themed theories. As I heard it was a "chick flick" romantic thing I will never watch it and now I´ll never have to! The bafflement is more a confession of pointy-headedness than a statement about the evidence. About which the Tibetan theory with the he-monkey and a rock ogress looks most testable.

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