A Message From Lucianne  







S-G1




























ST-GC


   
 
Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


Unions vow legal fight as lawmakers
OK pension overhaul

Chicago Tribune, by Ray Long & Monique Garcia

Original Article

Posted By:JoniTx, 12/4/2013 3:07:21 PM

SPRINGFIELD — Illinois lawmakers narrowly approved a historic, sweeping overhaul of government worker pension systems Tuesday, overcoming years of political and philosophical differences in an attempt to address one of the state´s most pressing financial problems. The collective exhale from the state´s political leaders may be short-lived, however. Even before Gov. Pat Quinn carries through with his promise to sign the bill, unions are prepping a lawsuit to try to overturn it. They contend the benefit cuts are unconstitutional and unfair to employees and retirees. Supporters hailed the bill as a solution that would "ensure retirement security" for current and

      


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 12/4/2013 3:23:32 PM     (No. 9640219)

My father, a double-dipper in the Illinois pension fund is irate over the legislature daring to take this action.

Myself, I´m amused by my fathers ox getting gored over this...

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    12 persons like this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/4/2013 3:28:08 PM     (No. 9640231)

Everyone knows that benefit and pension cuts are only constitutional for private sector employees!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    12 persons like this.


   

 

R-G1
  
R-VAR_AD


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: KingBubo, 12/4/2013 3:44:12 PM     (No. 9640257)

I understand their being irate. But they just need to look a couple hundred miles east on 94 to see the future, Detroit. The got the government they worked for.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    9 persons like this.


Reply 4 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/4/2013 4:16:39 PM     (No. 9640311)

Oh, brother, can you spare some reality?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    9 persons like this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: RUReadyY3K, 12/4/2013 4:24:05 PM     (No. 9640334)

There is a need to wean these people off of the public teat.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    10 persons like this.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Jerico, 12/4/2013 4:34:58 PM     (No. 9640364)

By THESE people do you mean the state employees who have signed contracts guaranteeing they will receive pension payments of a certain type in lieu of higher earnings at the time the contracts were signed? Are the pension payments of the elected officials and judicial members being treated the same? It is one thing to change the way pensions will be determined or paid for future contracts /employees and another to violate the contracts that were signed in good faith.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    17 persons like this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 12/4/2013 4:38:22 PM     (No. 9640374)

My wife has two relatives,both h.s. grads-no college, pulling down $130G+ in retirement from Illinois. I learned this a couple years ago and all I can say is "about time".

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    11 persons like this.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: TXknitter, 12/4/2013 4:53:25 PM     (No. 9640394)

I have family members who are retired city officials. Oops, I think they would prefer "public servants." Now these sisters and an uncle are good folks but even THEY agree that it is not fair that their pension packages are unfair to taxpayers. As my sis said, she is retired at 51 with lifetime 100% medical, dental, optometry and as she says, if she lives as long as all our relatives, we are talking 40 years of pension when you worked 18 years. Who is their right mind thinks that is sustainable? #6, with all respect for those who have worked hard, private sector folks were promised plenty also. When the economy drops and the till is empty, they suffered. These Illinois workers should blame their union bosses. How much are they raking in anyway? Funny how that question never gets asked or answered. Times are tough. We are all in this together.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    21 persons like this.


Reply 9 - Posted by: AltaD, 12/4/2013 5:11:00 PM     (No. 9640419)

FTA: Unions said they´ll sue under a clause in the Illinois Constitution that prohibits action that would impair or diminish a public pension once it is in place.

I don´t know who wrote or voted for the IL Pension Clause decades ago but whoever those politicians were, they and their union buddies are the reason this state is in deep, deep trouble.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    9 persons like this.


Reply 10 - Posted by: august9, 12/4/2013 5:59:04 PM     (No. 9640477)

#6 ---Those "signed contracts" you refer to are the equivalent to the two coyotes drawing up a dinner menu with the chicken.

And as for: pension payments of a certain type in lieu of higher earnings at the time the contracts were signed?, study after study has shown that on a job comparable basis, public workers are compensated greater then private sector employees, not to mention holidays such as MLK day, veteran´s day etc.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    13 persons like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Hotrod, 12/4/2013 6:09:49 PM     (No. 9640489)

It´s hard to grow unions when they, and the liberal government, shut down manufacturing in the U.S. China loves American unions, the EPA, OSHA, and all the other government agencies that regulate these jobs into history!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    9 persons like this.


Reply 12 - Posted by: KTWO, 12/4/2013 7:45:41 PM     (No. 9640585)

We see several principles in effect.

Unions and public employees and politicians prefer this one:

"What is ours is ours forever. What is yours is negotiable."

Corollary: "We negotiate with ourselves for ourselves."

The best solution is steady adjustments until the benefits and wages are closer to the norms in the private sector.

This has, so far, been prevented by the tactic of never giving an inch. Union chiefs proclaim doom will follow the smallest reform.

About that we might ponder that when reform is made impossible revolution is made inevitable.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    10 persons like this.


   

 

B-G1


 

Post Reply   Close thread 763347




Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "JoniTx"

and

Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)




Most Recent Articles posted by "JoniTx"



Savannah Guthrie Is Married and Pregnant
People, by Sandra Sobieraj Westfall    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 9:44:45 AM     Post Reply
We interrupt this cocktail hour with breaking news. The mariachi band serenading Savannah Guthrie and Michael Feldman down the aisle after their "I do´s" was not the only surprise in store for guests at the couple´s hush-hush weekend wedding. Just as family and friends – an intimate gathering of 80 to 90 people – were sitting down to dinner, NBC anchor Guthrie, 42, and Feldman, 45, said a few thank-yous and reminded guests to keep the nuptials secret until Guthrie could announce it herself on air on Today Monday morning. That´s when the DJ hit "play" on a recording of

In Illinois, Republicans See
an Office Up for Grabs
New York Times, by Monica Davey    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 9:35:46 AM     Post Reply
CHICAGO — Democrats have dominated state government here for so long that they even held on to the governor’s office in 2010 as their last governor, Rod R. Blagojevich, was facing corruption charges that would send him to federal prison. But now comes Bruce Rauner, seen as the front-runner in Illinois’s Republican primary for governor on Tuesday, who portrays himself as an outsider — the opposite, he suggests, of everything weary Illinois voters have seen too many times before. Both Republicans and Democrats are taking notice. No decades-long veteran of insular Statehouse politics, Mr. Rauner, 58, a multimillionaire businessman, is

Secret of Chicago´s green river:
St Patrick´s Day tradition first began
when a dye testing for pollution turned
emerald if toxic sludge was detected
Associated Press & Daily Mail UK, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 7:10:21 AM     Post Reply
The Chicago River´s bright emerald green in honor of St Patrick´s day is a tradition that´s been upheld in the city for more than 50 years - but how did it begin? The tradition has its origins in the city´s efforts to detect illegal sewage dumping back in 1962. Plumbers would use fluorescein dye along the river, which would turn bright green if toxic sludge was detected. The dyeing of the river is still sponsored by the local plumbers union, but now they use a harmless vegetable dye to get the desired hue. The exact formula is a closely guarded secret,

Cruz Up Close: Texas Senator Nabs
Claremont’s ‘Statesmanship Award’
PJ Media, by Roger L. Simon    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 6:54:40 AM     Post Reply
It’s hard to believe but Ted Cruz and Barack Obama do have one thing in common. Both have now won awards more for their potential than for their achievements. In Obama’s case, it was the Nobel Peace Prize, an award given to the likes of Yasser Arafat for bringing “peace to the Middle East” and, yes, Al Gore for his maunderings about the weather. In Cruz’s case, it was the Claremont Institute’s Statesmanship Award, previously given to the likes of Milton Friedman and Margaret Thatcher. I leave it to you to decide which is the greater honor, but I was

   

 

R_DBL_B
  


 
Democrats: Obama Becoming ´Poisonous´
to Midterm Candidates
Breitbart Big Government, by Wynton Hall    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 6:45:03 AM     Post Reply
A Democratic lawmaker told the New York Times that President Barack Obama is becoming "poisonous" to Democratic candidates who are facing an uphill battle in the Nov. 4 midterm elections. Driving Democratic fears are Obama´s low approval ratings and the unpopularity of Obamacare. The latest Gallup poll finds that Obama´s approval rating now stands at just 39%. The same poll shows that 55% of Americans now disapprove of the job Obama is doing as president. And according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, just 38% of Americans support Obamacare. "The state of Democrats is very much tied to the state

Black Senior Forced to Choose: Obama or Jesus.
American Thinker, by Lloyd Marcus    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 5:14:20 AM     Post Reply
I had an extraordinary telephone conservation with my 86-year-old black dad, a lifelong Democrat and huge Obama fan. He called to ask me, “Is Obama anti-Christian?” Dad has been a Christian pastor for over 50 years. I said, “Dad, I have been telling you about Obama´s anti-Christian policies for the past five years.” Dad replied, “And I have not been listening.” Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House. I felt that dad was expressing the sentiments of many blacks of his era. I asked him to explain why

Scottish ´yes´ vote ´will force Britain
to abandon nuclear weapons´
Telegraph [UK], by Georgia Graham    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 11:09:05 PM     Post Reply
Britain will be forced to abandon its nuclear weapons if Scotland becomes independent, a senior admiral has warned. In an article for The Daily Telegraph today, Vice-Adml John McAnally said Scottish independence is “the biggest strategic threat faced by our Armed Forces”. He warned that Britain would lose its seat on the UN Security Council and England and Scotland would be reduced to “two struggling nations on Europe’s periphery”. Vice-Adml McAnally, a former commandant of the Royal College of Defence Studies, said there is “every possibility” Britain could be forced into unilateral nuclear disarmament. The Navy’s fleet of nuclear submarines

GOP Chairman: We´ll Have Fewer Primary
Debates, and Party Will Pick Moderators
Associated Press, by Juliet Williams    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 10:12:19 PM     Post Reply
BURLINGAME, Calif.— Planned changes to the Republican Party´s presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP´s current primary process "a complete disaster." Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything´s not a conspiracy." "I think a traveling circus of

White House to begin Obamacare
March Madness Monday
CNN, by Jim Acosta & Jason Seher    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 9:53:08 PM     Post Reply
Washington- As hoop heads across the country prepare for the Big Dance, President Barack Obama´s administration is banking on a new March Madness-focused campaign to help boost Obamacare enrollment. To coincide with the start of NCAA basketball tournament, a White House official says the administration is launching an all-encompassing push around the annual basketball bonanza that will feature athletes, coaches, and others, in hopes of spurring more Americans to sign up for health care before the March 31 deadline. According to the official, the effort starts in earnest Monday morning when Univision Radio´s Locura Deportiva airs an interview with President

   

 



 
Loopy liberals freak over Koch
brother’s $100M hospital gift
New York Post, by Kyle Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 9:42:45 PM     Post Reply
On the surface, it appeared that a major New York hospital had gratefully accepted a $100 million gift from a philanthropic family with a long history of donating to the arts, higher learning and medicine. But the new wing at New York-Presbyterian Hospital inspired a bizarre protest last weekend by activist groups including the NAACP New York State Conference, the New York State Nurses’ Association and the hospital-employee union SEIU Local 1199. Surely there had to be a catch to the hospital wing. Why else would it be a source of such distress? Was there a provision that would cause all

16 killed in stampedes for jobs in Nigeria
Associated Press, by Bashir Adigun*    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 9:34:04 PM     Post Reply
ABUJA, Nigeria- At least 16 people were killed in stampedes for government jobs in Nigeria when hundreds of thousands were invited to apply for fewer than 5,000 positions, officials and activists said Sunday. Interior Minister Abba Moro held the applicants responsible, saying they "lost their lives through their impatience." Activists blamed his ministry and called for him to be fired. Emergency officials said the death toll could rise. Nigerians are desperate for work, with official statistics putting the number of unemployed at nearly 41 million of the 170 million population. Unemployment among young people aged under-24 is even higher -

North Korea fires short-range
rockets, sources say
CNN, by Paula Hancocks & K.J. Kwon    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 9:23:51 PM     Post Reply
Seoul, South Korea- North Korea has fired 10 short-range rockets, two South Korean defense officials said Sunday. The rockets were fired from the eastern coast of the Korean peninsula toward the Sea of Japan, according to the officials, who asked not to be identified by name as a matter of security protocol. "We estimate the rockets traveled about 70 kilometers in the open waters," one of the officials said.(Snip) The U.S. State Department said it´s aware of the reports of rocket launches by North Korea and is closely monitoring the situation. "We once again call on North Korea to refrain



Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)



Doomed airliner pilot was political fanatic:
Hours before taking control of flight MH370 he
attended trial of jailed opposition leader as FBI
reveal passengers could be at a secret location

51 replie(s)
Daily Mail [UK], by Simon Parry    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 3/16/2014 5:07:17 AM     Post Reply
Police are investigating the possibility that the pilot of missing Flight MH370 hijacked his own aircraft in a bizarre political protest. The Mail on Sunday has learned that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years. Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges. Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist

Ted Cruz not so popular back home
38 replie(s)
Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/15/2014 12:04:47 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) may be popular among hard-line conservatives nationally, but back home he’s in some hot water. According to an Emerson College poll, his favorability is underwater, by a margin of 43 to 48 percent. Moreover, his favorable/unfavorable rating with women is 39 to 50 percent. I asked the poll director for further detail and found: Republicans: 74 percent favorable, 18 percent unfavorable ~Democrats: 8 percent favorable, 82 percent unfavorable ~Independents: 38 percent favorable, 50 percent unfavorable

Condoleezza Rice urges Republican
party to be more inclusive

38 replie(s)
Reuters, by Laila Kearney    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/16/2014 6:01:34 PM     Post Reply
SAN FRANCISCO - Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Saturday called on the Republican Party to become more inclusive on issues like immigration. "We have a responsibility to those who do not yet have the liberties and the rights that we enjoy," Rice told a cheering crowd at the annual gathering of California Republicans in the San Francisco suburb of Burlingame. "We cannot abandon them ... We were once them." She did not offer a specific policy idea. The speech by Rice, who was secretary of state under President George W. Bush, was the highlight of the second day of

Astonishing poll shows 38-year
Democratic congressman down 14 points

37 replie(s)
Washington Examiner, by Michael Barone    Original Article
Posted By: Judy W.- 3/15/2014 7:31:10 PM     Post Reply
Here´s an astonishing poll: David Freddoso at Conservative Intelligence Briefing links to a report by the Washington Post´s Aaron Blake that West Virginia 3rd district incumbent Rep. Nick Rahall trails Republican challenger state Sen. Evan Jenkins by a 54-percent to 40-percent margin. The poll was conducted by the Tarrance Group, a Republican firm which, like several Democratic and other Republican firms, has had a good record for reliability over the years. This is astonishing for several reasons. Rahall, first elected in 1976, is now the seventh most senior member of the House, with three of the more senior members retiring

Barack Obama, Political Wrecking Ball
36 replie(s)
Commentary Magazine, by Peter Wehner    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/16/2014 5:38:29 AM     Post Reply
By now it’s settled on most people, including Democrats, that the loss of Alex Sink to David Jolly in Florida’s 13th Congressional District was, in the words of the New York Times, “devastating” to Democrats. It’s a district Ms. Sink carried in her unsuccessful race for governor against Rick Scott, a district that Barack Obama carried in his two elections, and a district that demographically now favors Democrats. In addition, Ms. Sink raised more money and ran a better campaign than Jolly. Even Bill Clinton lent his efforts to her campaign. And yet she lost. What should particularly alarm Democrats is

Bill Maher: God a ‘psychotic mass
murderer’ who ‘drowns babies’

35 replie(s)
Washington Times (D.C.), by Kellan Howell    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/16/2014 6:06:52 PM     Post Reply
Late night comedian Bill Maher told his HBO “Real Time” audience on Friday that God was a “psychotic mass murderer.” He made the comments during a conversation on the biblical story of Noah and the upcoming Hollywood version of it that’s about to hit the big screen. “But the thing that’s really disturbing about Noah isn’t the silly, it’s that it’s immoral. It’s about a psychotic mass murderer who gets away with it, and his name is God,” Mr. Maher said, adding, “What kind of tyrant punishes everyone just to get back at the few he’s mad at? I mean, besides

The Unbearable Lightness of Barack Obama:
Desperation, Cunning, or Disengagement?

34 replie(s)
Commentary Magazine, by Michael Austin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 3/16/2014 5:03:38 AM     Post Reply
It’s been less than six months since Bret Stephens used a version of this headline, but four events in the last week have caused it to scream in my mind. Before I get into those four events, let me say that I understand the only way to stay remotely sane in Washington, D.C., is to ignore 85 percent of whatever is trending at any given moment. That said, there are times anyone less isolated than a Carthusian monk is unavoidably exposed to “news” that 25 years ago would be considered fit only for National Enquirer. The four events that have disturbed

Westboro Baptist Church
founder Fred Phelps Sr.
´on the edge of death´

30 replie(s)
New York Daily News, by Doyle Murphy    Original Article
Posted By: SoCalGal- 3/16/2014 4:36:23 PM     Post Reply
The Rev. Fred Phelps Sr., founder of the hate-fueled Westboro Baptist Church, is at “the edge of death,” his son reports. Nathan Phelps, who fled the infamous Kansas church more than 30 years ago, claims his notorious father was kicked out of the congregation he built and is now spending his final days in hospice care. “I´ve learned that my father, Fred Phelps, Sr., pastor of the "God Hates (deleted to clear site filter)" Westboro Baptist Church, was ex-communicated from the ‘church’ back in August of 2013,” Nathan Phelps wrote on Facebook. “He is now on the edge of death at

Top Republican: U.S. needs 1 million
more immigrants, not less

29 replie(s)
Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: mikkins2- 3/15/2014 9:05:57 PM     Post Reply
A top Republican campaigning for immigration reform is warning that America needs at least 1 million more immigrants every year just for basic farming and construction jobs, not ban like some in the party are advocating. Carlos Gutierrez, Commerce secretary under former President George W. Bush, said that without more immigrants, businesses won´t be able to grow because there aren´t enough workers available. And helping them could boost the Republican Party, added the former Kellogg Co. executive. Speaking at a Republican confab, he said that comprehensive immigration reform passed in the Senate and rejected by

Boston mayor to miss St. Patrick´s
parade over exclusion of gay marchers

26 replie(s)
Reuters, by Elizabeth Barber    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/16/2014 11:58:19 AM     Post Reply
BOSTON- Boston´s Irish-American mayor will not march in the city´s St. Patrick´s Day parade on Sunday after failing to hammer out a deal with organizers to allow a group of gay and lesbian activists to march openly. Mayor Marty Walsh had tried to negotiate a deal with organizers, the conservative Allied War Veteran´s Council, to allow members of MassEquality, one of Massachusetts´ largest gay activist groups, to join the parade. "So much of our Irish history has been shaped by the fight against oppression," Walsh, the city´s first Irish-American mayor in 20 years, said in a statement. "As mayor of

Black Senior Forced to Choose: Obama or Jesus.
26 replie(s)
American Thinker, by Lloyd Marcus    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/17/2014 5:14:20 AM     Post Reply
I had an extraordinary telephone conservation with my 86-year-old black dad, a lifelong Democrat and huge Obama fan. He called to ask me, “Is Obama anti-Christian?” Dad has been a Christian pastor for over 50 years. I said, “Dad, I have been telling you about Obama´s anti-Christian policies for the past five years.” Dad replied, “And I have not been listening.” Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House. I felt that dad was expressing the sentiments of many blacks of his era. I asked him to explain why

What killed off the giant beasts
– climate change or man?

23 replie(s)
Observer [UK], by Robin McKie    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/16/2014 10:05:46 AM     Post Reply
They were some of the strangest animals to walk the Earth: wombats as big as hippos, sloths larger than bears, four-tusked elephants, and an armadillo that would have dwarfed a VW Beetle. They flourished for millions of years, then vanished from our planet just as humans emerged from their African homeland. It is one of palaeontology´s most intriguing mysteries and will form the core of a conference at Oxford University this week when delegates will debate whether climate change or human hunters killed off the planet´s lost megafauna, as these extinct giants are known. "Creatures like megatherium, the giant sloth,

   

Post Reply   Close thread 763347





Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google



© 2014 Lucianne.com Media Inc.

FS