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GOP strategist: Reagan is dead; move on
The Hill, by Molly K. Hooper

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Posted By:mikkins2, 12/1/2013 12:04:02 PM

A Republican strategist is reminding his party that President Reagan is dead. Ford O´Connell, who worked on Sen. John McCain´s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign, says if Republicans want to win the White House in 2016, they need to break free of the "obsessive Reagan disorder." Rule #1 of the political analyst´s newly released book, "Hail Mary: The 10-Step Playbook for Republican Recovery," is: "Ronald Reagan is dead. Accept it." Such a sentiment is sure to be tough to digest for a party insistent on using the 40th president´s legacy as a GOP litmus test to prove conservative credentials. "The Reagan fixation is a drag

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Republican Establishment insider once again proving that your truly cant "fix stupid".

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: blizzard, 12/1/2013 12:07:50 PM     (No. 9635837)

No problem...I´ve already moved on from the current version of the GOP.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Catherine, 12/1/2013 12:09:19 PM     (No. 9635842)

Hey, O´Connell, how´s that worked for ya´ the last two elections?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: beancounter, 12/1/2013 12:10:44 PM     (No. 9635846)

After reading that article I can say I know nothing about his book and already I hate it.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/1/2013 12:11:28 PM     (No. 9635848)

Reagan´s belief in America, his admiration for American exceptionalism, his CORE principles are ALIVE and well. His messages were always positive (unlike now).
He loved the military, saw communism as the enemy. He had faith in the people and believed in smaller less powerful government over the people..
All things the current president does not.
Communism has been given a sexier name..now they are "progressives" and unfortunately there are progressives in BOTH major parties.
Memorable quote "Government is NOT the solution, government IS the problem".

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Reply 5 - Posted by: QRP, 12/1/2013 12:17:59 PM     (No. 9635855)

Mr. O´Connell, Can you say third party?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Retiredhippy, 12/1/2013 12:19:53 PM     (No. 9635857)

Note to O´Connell...:
Yes, good men die.
But, their ideas live on.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: eoddad, 12/1/2013 12:20:54 PM     (No. 9635860)

I became a Republican because of Reagan, and I always denied the Country Club aspects of the party. The country club crowd pushed out the evangelical Christians lately they have been throwing out Tea Party Members and now the Reaganite´s need not apply. Establishment GOP´s will go the way of the Whigs if they keep it up.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 12/1/2013 12:24:11 PM     (No. 9635865)

And we should take advice from this loser because......?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/1/2013 12:26:41 PM     (No. 9635867)

This is why Republicans lose elections.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/1/2013 12:30:33 PM     (No. 9635872)

He says "kill immigration reform, kill the GOP" but it is really all about how you define immigration reform.

The liberal Democrats with their current bill define immigration reform as setting up a pathway to convert just about the entire illegal alien population into new Democrat voters in the years ahead. That would surely kill the GOP, as they would no longer have any chance to then win future national elections. Basic arithmetic and historical fact will tell you that.

The Republicans are really the root cause of the mass uncontrolled illegal immigration that the country is experiencing today. It started out as a quest to secure as much cheap labor as possible, and if that cheap labor happened to consist of illegal aliens to simply ignore the illegal part of all that. In that respect, the Republicans allowed the illegal alien situation to get out of control and to boil over. Then in stepped the Democrats recognizing that the vast majority of illegal aliens and their family members are poor and generally uneducated people mostly from third world socialist oriented countries. The Democrat´s mission is now not to get rid of that God send for them, but to politically capitalize on illegal aliens by legalizing as many of them as possible, and eventually granting them what amounts to duel-national status with US voting rights, knowing that historically 85% of legalized aliens in the past who have attained US voting rights have also become Democrat voters.

The Republicans can´t allow that to happen or it will be the beginning of long-term political suicide for the Republican Party, which will mean that the USA will be transformed into a one party socialist country permanently ruled on a national basis by the liberal Democrats. Any Republican who denies the above facts is a political moron.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Hard Nard, 12/1/2013 12:31:05 PM     (No. 9635873)

If this is the attitude they take into the next Presidential election a lot of conservatives will vote third party. Or, not at all. I´ll not vote for another "squish" candidate.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 12/1/2013 12:36:21 PM     (No. 9635878)

I like a good conservative candidate but we seem to end up losing easy races (the Senate seats in IN, DE, and MO) because the so-called moderate choice in the primary was not a ´true conservative´ and we went with the wing nut.

I am still curious - of the ten or so Goppers running in the 2012 primaries - which of those would have been both ´´true conservatives´´ and also capable of beating the Barry and MSM combo. I would welcome an answer because I am sure stumped. Would either of the Ricks beaten Barry? Would Newt?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/1/2013 12:39:13 PM     (No. 9635882)

Interesting concept-treating politics like football.
O´Connell´s point that instead of just citing Reagan, Republican candidates need to articulate a conservative vision is a valid assessment.
O´Connell´s book is aimed at the GOP , not the Tea Party.
The Tea Party has not been " thrown out " of the Republican Party-they´ve left on their own.
The Tea Party hates the GOP , it´s officials and elected representatives
and makes that very plain.
The Tea Party has made it their goal to unseat as many Republicans as possible, which in many cases means electing Democrats.
Tea Party leaders bragged that their members stayed home in 2012 because they did not like " mittens " as he was derided.
The Tea Party is already a third party.
And instead of constantly demonizing the GOP they should focus on their own platform and candidates.



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Reply 14 - Posted by: MDConservative, 12/1/2013 12:43:25 PM     (No. 9635886)

Ronald Reagan has as much practical political presence in America today as Washington or Lincoln. He has become an "invisibility cloak" in which candidates like the Bush family, John McCain or Mitt Romney wrap themselves, particularly during primary season. Actually Ford O´Connell makes a fair point in his book, that it is time to move forward in the spirit of Reagan without bogging down in some ultra-orthodoxy of Reagan twenty years after his death. Politics moves on, and one must move with it. That is emphatically NOT to say that I support the milquetoast GOP of McConnell, Boehner, Romney and Jeb Bush, nor the scoundrels McCain and Graham.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/1/2013 12:44:12 PM     (No. 9635887)

SO now the GOP wants to play the Lib game...move on, nothing to see here while they steal our total country and heritage and turn it over to the Communists?

Over our dead bodies!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: yuban, 12/1/2013 12:44:29 PM     (No. 9635888)

I will continue demonizing the GOP until they stop being the Party of Socialism Lite.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/1/2013 12:49:27 PM     (No. 9635895)

No principles, all popularity and pandering. This is really an insult to all Americans. The author would seem to be something of a wolf in sheep´s clothing. By his fruits, we already know him. His tree does not bring forth good fruit. He must be ignored.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 12/1/2013 12:58:15 PM     (No. 9635906)

One of the keys to Reagan´s success was to get millions of Democrats to vote Republican. He accomplished this by continually pointing-out the abject failures of the Democrat party and by ceding nothing to the Democrat candidate. He tried to win all 50 states (and came very close to doing so). Today´s GOP refuses to do that, and reaps what is sows.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Kerryman, 12/1/2013 1:04:15 PM     (No. 9635914)

Deleted by Rules Police. You may not attack another poster directly, and your choice of words should not be of the saloon variety. LCom Staff.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: 4justice, 12/1/2013 1:16:09 PM     (No. 9635923)

Our founding fathers are dead...should we forget the U.S. of A? Lincoln is dead. Should we bring back slavery? What an idiot. Maybe he should tell the Democrats that Marx is looooong dead and they should get over it.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: congaree53, 12/1/2013 1:17:25 PM     (No. 9635925)

No, neoconservatism is dead. Move on.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: god of irony, 12/1/2013 1:18:31 PM     (No. 9635928)

No Ford O´Connell it is you and your unprincipled Republicans that are dead. Just take a close look at the destruction your idol Karl Rove has done to the party at the national level. It is us principled conservatives that are winning at the state and local level.

You can take your McCains and Lamar Alexanders and go poll your yourselves.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/1/2013 1:21:50 PM     (No. 9635935)

This is all I needed to read in evaluating his "advice:"

"who worked on Sen. John McCain´s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign"

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Reply 24 - Posted by: bpl40, 12/1/2013 1:24:51 PM     (No. 9635938)

What RINOs mean by that slogan is "Lets go back to being Democrat Lite. That way the parasites will switch and start voting for us". Try slashing your wrists. It might be less painful.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: kirby, 12/1/2013 1:25:05 PM     (No. 9635939)

This should read Democratic Strategist.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 12/1/2013 1:28:03 PM     (No. 9635943)

I´m with #12 and #13.

Pragmatism wins elections. Dreamy remembrances of twenty years ago gets us nowhere. Revering Reagan and what he accomplished is what we all want to do. Trying to resurrect him in today´s politics is a waste of time and energy.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: BarryNo, 12/1/2013 1:37:52 PM     (No. 9635947)

Definition of a "GOP Strategist": A paid Democrat undercover operative.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Rakasha, 12/1/2013 1:38:56 PM     (No. 9635949)

The Tea Party has made it their goal to unseat as many Republicans as possible...

Not true. T.E.A. subscribers have made it their goal to unseat as many Republicans as possible who do not uphold their Constitutional mandates.


#12, Let´s look at it this way. If it is true that many true conservative wing nuts stayed home during the last presidential election because they did not like the candidate, then if a ´true conservative´ candidate did win the primary and the same people who insist that everyone should vote for the ´R´ followed their own advice, then yes - that candidate would win.


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Reply 29 - Posted by: EnsignO, 12/1/2013 1:39:49 PM     (No. 9635951)

#23 that´s about as far as I got, too. The only good thing that came out of the 2008 John McCain campaign was Sarah Palin.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Hazymac, 12/1/2013 1:40:16 PM     (No. 9635952)

One must remember that the GOP Establishment was strongly behind Gerald Ford in 1976, and only reluctantly accepted Reagan after he powered to the nomination and to the presidency in 1980. This pitiful old troglodyte O´Connell with gums where his teeth used to be and a badly receding brain apparently thinks that distinguishing between a leader and that leader´s winning political philosophy is beyond our ken; it´s certainly beyond his, bless his heart.

It should be unnecessary to have to keep repeating the mush-minded moderates´ mantra that Reagan--or anyone else who predeceased those who still breathe--is dead. Most of us heard, and still remember. Because that fact is so self-evidently true, we must grasp O´Connell´s real underlying meaning, which is that that in his opinion Reaganism, the most successful political philosophy of our lifetimes, and conservatism/libertarianism at large, is irretrievably a part of the past with no relevance to the modern superstate that both parties have so foolishly and shortsightedly built.

Establishment Republicans have the same intellectual deficiency that leftists have: They don´t learn; they are so enamored of their own wisdom (if it could be called that), so happy in their insular little netherworld, that reality just doesn´t penetrate their thick skulls.

People don´t last, but wisdom does. What Reagan believed will be true as long as humanity slinks along the earth´s surface.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 12/1/2013 1:55:06 PM     (No. 9635967)

#28 wrote ´´ then if a ´true conservative´ candidate did win the primary and the same people who insist that everyone should vote for the ´R´ followed their own advice, then yes - that candidate would win.´´

First, I am not insisting on anyone voting on anything. I am mainly curious about who this wondrous true conservative winner would have been. I voted for Romney because he said he would shrink the government and his IQ is probably north of 150. Would I have vote for high IQ Newt? Probably, but he had drunk deeply of the Potomac over the years and seemed pretty much for ´´a path to citizenship´´. The thing is not about the ´´moderate" Pubbies staying home, it´s about the Independents staying home. Last I checked, (I)s make up about 30% of the electorate.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/1/2013 2:09:33 PM     (No. 9635974)

GOP strategists remind me of the high school girl who will do anything (including the entire football team) in order to be "popular."

Reagan is Dead? Yeah, so is Jesus, but both of their principles and values are still just as valid and worth following as ever. And I believe that Reagan´s principles are still a great formula for victory:

* Love of country.
* Respect for and enforcement of the constitution.
* Strong military and clear identification of our enemies.
* A limited and constrainedl government bureaucracy.
* Reduced federal taxes.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/1/2013 2:11:16 PM     (No. 9635976)

Notice the democrats never have "moved on" from FDR, HST, or JFK. Actually neither have many Republicans who continue to quote them.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 12/1/2013 2:16:19 PM     (No. 9635978)

We are moving on to Constitutionalism, Ford. You have abandoned that and for that we DEFUND you. Bye.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: noparallel, 12/1/2013 2:17:15 PM     (No. 9635980)

"Ford O´Connell, who worked on Sen. John McCain´s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign"

should be

"Ford O´Connell, who worked on Sen. John McCain´s (R-Ariz.)
LOSING
2008 presidential campaign"

PERIOD

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Reply 36 - Posted by: 4justice, 12/1/2013 2:20:57 PM     (No. 9635982)

Agreed #4. Our Founding Fathers are dead. Should we give up on the U.S. of A.? Lincoln is dead. Should we bring back slavery? This guy is an idiot. Maybe he should spend his time telling the Democrats, "Marx is dead. Get over it and move on"

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Reply 37 - Posted by: kafir091101, 12/1/2013 2:28:52 PM     (No. 9635989)

OP: Absolutely 100% spot on!

After reading the following:

“Ford O´Connell, who worked on Sen. John McCain´s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential campaign, says if Republicans want to win the White House in 2016, they need to break free of the "obsessive Reagan disorder."”

I stopped reading and went to your postings.

I’ll state my position again

I consider GOP leadership, and its enablers, as the prime reason America is in the state it’s in because they have had the opportunity to cripple Puloucy/Reid/Obama and have refused to stand up on their hind legs and fight for the American citizen!

Self centered and corrupt statists, every damned one of them!

A personal note to Ford O´Connell and the same to Ms Molly Hooper because she included no opposing views.

‘STUFF IT’.

And a note to all others:

Jesus Christ, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln and many more who laid the foundation for the America most of us love and are fearful of losing, are all dead.

Should we move on and away from them?

Over my dead body!!!!!!!!!!!

Kafir

PS: After typing this and doing some chores before posting it, I see that the premier McPain/McConnell/Romney apologist and fevered Palin/Lee/Cruz critic has chimed in. Too bad……

PPS: After quickly re-reviewing the posts, I see that most all of us are in sync and it may look as if I copied other’s comments. Great minds follow similar paths!

Also, I see that the usual outlying seminar posting suspects supporting the GOP/RINO establishment are having their say.

Will they never learn?


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Reply 38 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 12/1/2013 2:36:51 PM     (No. 9635993)

Hmmm - - let´s see - - Reagan, the right-wing extremist won 94 states in two elections.

And the "moderate" Dole-McCain-Romney wing had their butts kicked by corrupt incompetents.

Yeah - - the RINO "strategist" is right - - let´s go with another "moderate´!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 12/1/2013 2:42:27 PM     (No. 9636001)

#37: "Jesus Christ, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln and many more who laid the foundation for the America most of us love and are fearful of losing, are all dead."

Better wording: "... have all died."

Word has it, Jesus Christ is feeling better now, thanks.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/1/2013 2:45:57 PM     (No. 9636005)

#37, you surely don´t mean to imply that alternate views shouldn´t be heard here? I´m confident you didn´t mean that. What is a "seminar poster"? If you mean a frequent poster, most involved L-Dotters would fit.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: had2, 12/1/2013 2:56:34 PM     (No. 9636010)

And Dole and McCain will soon be.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Packard Man, 12/1/2013 2:56:53 PM     (No. 9636011)

Why does it not surprise me that this came from someone who worked on the McCain campaign.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: suedotsue, 12/1/2013 3:03:00 PM     (No. 9636017)

I´m not obsessed with Reagan, I´m obsessed with exposing big lies. The Beltway has become its own interest group. The GOP saw advantages to big. gov. as a special interest and is now fully on board with the left. The evidence is there for all to see. GOP-E candidates don´t win, and often end up endorsing or becoming democrats. Such as Crist, Chafee, Dede Scozzafava (from NY 23). GOP-E operatives work to get democrats elected as seen in recent Va. gov. race in which Terry McCauliffe was described by a GOP E as a great choice for conservatives. In 2012 the GOP-E and Rove lost at least 11 US Senate races. In some cases they had muscled out conservative candidates to run inferior Beltway retreads who lost in landslides even in states Romney won. The GOP elects democrats. They like the same things democrats like. The attacks on conservatives aren´t to advance the GOP but to silence opposition to massive top down gov. PS, I voted for Romney. It´s a lie to say TP stayed home. Ross Perot voters stayed home. Look it up.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: wsdiego, 12/1/2013 3:09:53 PM     (No. 9636022)

So is Marx but you don´t see the libs giving up on him!

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Reply 45 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/1/2013 3:10:58 PM     (No. 9636023)

As long as the Independents who now make up a good portion of the electorate believe that there is not a 5 cent cigar worth of difference between the liberal Democrats, and the Democrat Lite Party also known as the Establishment Republicans, when it gets down to the go along to get along phase of passing legislation, future national election results are going to be very disappointing for conservatives.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Geelabeela828, 12/1/2013 3:31:02 PM     (No. 9636040)

Ford O´Connell: please do GO POUND SAND. Thank you!

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Reply 47 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 12/1/2013 3:33:22 PM     (No. 9636042)

Thank you to The Hill and Molly Hooper for publishing this. Continue to be good little democrats and try to drive wedges between Pubs. It´s what you do, after all, and your sugar daddies, the democrat/socialist/communist establishment is in a bit of trouble for 2014.

So, do your part. Do all you can to hurt the Republicans and help the communist party. It is, of course, your job.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: fleetusa, 12/1/2013 3:35:23 PM     (No. 9636045)

Losers go to the back of the bus and shut up.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: flatwater, 12/1/2013 3:39:43 PM     (No. 9636047)

This jackass ran one of the worst campaigns in American history, for a backstabbing RINO who also relishes in telling conservatives to shut up.

Go straight to hell, Ford, and take that worthless sack of excrement John McCain with you.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: MERLIN251, 12/1/2013 3:41:29 PM     (No. 9636048)

Mr. O´Connell, Reagan might be dead in body, but his spirit lives on in the Tea Party. Get over it you RINO Strategist!!!

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Reply 51 - Posted by: happywarrior, 12/1/2013 3:55:41 PM     (No. 9636055)

#13´s post is a total crock. There are no "Tea Party leaders" and I´ve heard of no one bragging about staying home. And the only place I´ve read the name "mittens" is here. Using straw men just like 0bama.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/1/2013 4:12:10 PM     (No. 9636066)

What a sick b*stard. How´s this for you, Edsel, we now have Ted Cruz, accept it.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: MirJoy, 12/1/2013 4:12:42 PM     (No. 9636067)

Unfortunately, many of the live RINOS are physically alive, but act as if their brains are dead, and whenever we hear President Reagan´s speeches, his words often seem so current and always uplifting.

And every time I see someone (author) whining about Delaware race et al, I want to be able to dig up facts about the very very low percentage of races Rove has won, but unfortunately can´t call it up right now, but it is miniscule, and he´s the guy who makes the decisions.

Reagan is dead; long live Reagan!

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Rafter, 12/1/2013 5:03:53 PM     (No. 9636101)

Remember Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga... ?
He tried to tell DimWitz how to reform.
Where is he now?

O´Connel´s man, McLameBrain, is dead to the GOP.
Meanwhile, Reagan is very much alive.

Deal with it.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: jimkata, 12/1/2013 5:05:28 PM     (No. 9636102)

Reagan - Smashing success.

G H Bush lost to a perv in a fairly good economy.(Slight recession)
GW Bush barley won, barley won again.


I don´t see the success path of the anti Reagan Republican approach.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Quaestio, 12/1/2013 5:37:53 PM     (No. 9636115)

So keeping alive the memory and legacy of one of the greatest Republican presidents ever is the problem? I could be Republican political consultant but my soul isn´t for sale and I´m not a complete idiot.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/1/2013 5:41:54 PM     (No. 9636119)

Ford is dead too. Dean in the head. Ronald Reagan may have died but his virtue, beliefs and love of this country will never die. Ford ran Juan McLames campaign and look what happened. Juan got his Navy rear end kicked from sea to shining sea. Nice job Ford. We don´t need to listen to your failed ideas and opinions. You need a 12 Step Program to help you recover from your insanity.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: anonymous, 12/1/2013 6:19:22 PM     (No. 9636143)

Good ideas never die.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: mc squared, 12/1/2013 7:01:09 PM     (No. 9636169)

Free advice from a strategist who lost 2 elections.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: MMC, 12/1/2013 7:26:19 PM     (No. 9636184)

As above poster stated- Marx is dead, Lenin, Stalin, Mao are dead... Communism has failed because the human spirit yearns for freedom!

America is an exceptional country because of her freedoms...

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Reply 61 - Posted by: trapper, 12/1/2013 7:45:04 PM     (No. 9636193)

Hahahahahaha. The man who worked on the LOSER McCain campaign is offering advice. That´s precious. And is he advising Republicans to study carefully everything he had McCain do, and then do the exact opposite? Uh ... no. THIS is his brilliant political advice: abandon the ideology, policy, and values of a man who WON two landslide victories. Amazing.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: SaguaroJack, 12/1/2013 8:13:20 PM     (No. 9636210)

Yeah, yeah, we all know Reagan´s dead. This is supposed to be news? profound? surprising?

What mattered about Ronald Reagan wasn´t his flesh, which indeed died. What mattered were his ideas, which did NOT die and are STILL powerful.

Duh.

With "strategists" like this guy, no wonder the GOP can´t beat this phony "president."

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Reply 63 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/1/2013 9:42:38 PM     (No. 9636247)

Frankly the GOP problem is the various interest groups are too much like the current president. These groups will not concede a single point to other groups within the circle.
Unless they can learn to accept those differences and move together no group will elect a national leader.
Be honest the senate 2012 was not won because far out social groups nominated people who turned off reasonable voters.
Ronald Regan won because he did bring those stubborn factions together including independents who really decide elections because they are willing to compromise.
We will recognize a winning unit when all the nasty name calling in this Party ceases.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Smart11344, 12/2/2013 2:07:32 AM     (No. 9636342)

Sounds to me Ms. Hooper is on "Molly".

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Reply 65 - Posted by: kafir091101, 12/2/2013 1:52:42 PM     (No. 9636999)

#39: Thank you for your comment. Your point of view is quite correct.

JESUS LIVES!

#40: I don’t support limiting participation, censorship or any other type of posting restrictions other than to keep things civil but I defiantly intend to continue criticizing posters who support the GOP RINO establishment because those type of posters can influence readers who may swing Pro-RINO or Anti-RINO.

RINOs are a cancer destroying this country and I reject them categorically! They are the reason the Donkeys have been succeeding post Reagan.

As you and others know, I have consistently criticized and decried those politicians that you seem to consistently support while I consistently support those politicians that you and yours seem to consistently criticize and I will continue to do so as long as I can post here.

Learn to live with it!

A ‘Seminar Poster’ is one whose postings are so predictable that it is as if they have just collectively completed an intense seminary indoctrination and that all of them have the same messages to spew.

IE: Those postings come across as pre-written, canned and selected from a list of ‘Preferred Talking Points.

IE: Some postings here are as predictable as the sun’s rise/fall just by observing the posters name. Their words differ but their messages are the same.

Shazam! OMG: That applies to me also!!!!!!!

However, I fully suspect that those I have coined as Seminar Callers actually have it in the genes and don’t need to attend a seminar to learn how to bow to a Romney/Christy and Poo-Poo a Palin/Cruz.

FWIW: My POV is in my genes also!

Kafir

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Reply 66 - Posted by: privateer, 12/2/2013 1:54:51 PM     (No. 9637002)

Sir Isaac Newton is also dead, but whaddaya know? His Laws of Motion are still in operation.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: StormCnter, 12/2/2013 2:31:45 PM     (No. 9637039)

So, #65, according to you it is not even remotely possible that any sensible, correctly thinking person could have a view different from yours and, furthermore, that person does not speak freely and sincerely, but is using "pre-written, canned and selected from a list of ‘Preferred Talking Points."

My goodness, somebody grab a pin to puncture that inflated ego.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: Rakasha, 12/2/2013 2:49:36 PM     (No. 9637052)

...according to you it is not even remotely possible that any sensible, correctly thinking person could have a view different from yours and, furthermore, that person does not speak freely and sincerely, but is using "pre-written, canned and selected from a list of ‘Preferred Talking Points."

I have reread #65, three times now and I don´t see where he suggested that reasoning people could not have a different viewpoint, nor was that his definition of ´seminar poster´.

In fact, I thought he explained it quite well.

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Reply 69 - Posted by: msjena, 12/2/2013 3:23:54 PM     (No. 9637094)

McCain lost; move on.

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Reply 70 - Posted by: kafir091101, 12/2/2013 6:49:05 PM     (No. 9637295)

#67:

The problem with this country is RINOs and RINO enablers. PERIOD!

Without RINOs, Obama never would have won the first time and certainly not his re-election.

Both of his GOP opponents were RINOs and their advisers and campaign planners/strategists/captains were dyed in the wool RINOs.

AND: I don’t have an inflated ego. I only have Total Distain for RINOs and their enablers because they in turn enable the Commie/Fascists in congress and the WH!

Nuff said!

For over five years you and you clutch have been crapping all over Gov Palin and now you’ve taken to spewing on Sen Cruz.

You have every right to do that but you won’t be doing it without pushback.

This is not a word game. This is a struggle for the very life of this Republic and RINOs and their enablers are counter to that struggle!

That, my fellow poster, is a political fact of life. Learn to live with it!

Kafir

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