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Can the Tea Party Ever Accept Christie?
Commentary Magazine, by Jonathan S. Tobin

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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/6/2013 1:49:54 PM

Yesterday’s exit polls from New Jersey won’t easily be forgotten. They will be cited and repeated endlessly by pundits and Governor Chris Christie’s supporters to bolster his case for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. Any Republican who can get 60 percent of the vote in a blue state is bound to become the subject of presidential speculation. But when a Republican who is pro-life and has fought a running battle with labor unions and Democrats over taxes and budgets does so, he parachutes into the first tier of any discussion of future candidates. That Christie did this while winning

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: atexaslupine, 11/6/2013 1:55:24 PM     (No. 9601505)

no. glad to clear that up for you.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ben Around, 11/6/2013 2:01:10 PM     (No. 9601516)

Mittens won the governorship of a blue state. How´d he work out?
How about christie´s refusal to fight obamacare in the court and his embrace of the pork spending for his state from it? The T Party certainly does approve of that kind of behavior.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Cleanhouseindc, 11/6/2013 2:01:38 PM     (No. 9601518)

Maybe some people will. Not me.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/6/2013 2:07:03 PM     (No. 9601525)

Only when pigs fly.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: CEP, 11/6/2013 2:07:38 PM     (No. 9601526)

Let´s see, there are 49 other states so because he won one state everyone should go gaga over Christie? Sorry but no.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/6/2013 2:09:28 PM     (No. 9601527)

Here´s what will happen if Christie is the GOP nom. The Dems will put up one of their horrors and many of us will realize that Christie is the better choice and hold our noses. Many will also say "no way" and we´ll have more destruction of our country -- if there´s anything left.

Christie, however, is worse than Romney was. He´s anti-gun, anti-free market, pro-Obamacare, pro-abortion and anti-free speech.

He´s a Democrat calling himself a Republican. A totalitarian. Why Ann Coulter ever fell in love with him, I´ll never know.

So what do we do? I have no idea. It´s for sure the RNC will not support a conservative candidate so it´s that much more difficult for a fiscal con to win. We need an alternative to the RNC is what we need. Not a third party, but a subgroup that can administer the donations we want to give and that can amass enough assets to smoke out the false flag candidates like Sarvis and nip that nonsense in the bud.

The RNC has to go no matter what.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Passion, 11/6/2013 2:10:52 PM     (No. 9601530)

Perhaps we should reverse this question…..the tea party accepts estabs far more often than vice versa…..



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Reply 8 - Posted by: msjena, 11/6/2013 2:12:52 PM     (No. 9601535)

Didn´t the Republicans try this the last time, with a smarter, better-looking candidate? Somewhere Hillary is cackling.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 11/6/2013 2:19:24 PM     (No. 9601545)

You mean accept the Republican governor who supported a Democrat in the special election for senator?

Or maybe the one who just after winning re-election proclaimed that he is not a moderate but a conservative?

Or is it the one that supports amnesty for illegals?

Sorry, 3 strikes, you´re out.

Not just no, but Freaking HELL NO!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: nimby, 11/6/2013 2:30:23 PM     (No. 9601558)

A resounding NO. Especially after we learned that Christie refused to campaign for Cucinelli.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: absalom, 11/6/2013 2:35:46 PM     (No. 9601567)

Count on predictable ´must read´ posts like this from the progressive contingent; relentlessly beating the drum for the likes of Christie, just as they did for Willard.
Principled conservatives need only glance at Christies record of governance to emphatically reject him. He presides over the highest taxed (business and property) state in the nation and has done absolutely squat to mitigate that environment.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: flatwater, 11/6/2013 2:37:10 PM     (No. 9601568)

It was the TEA Party and social conservatives who swept the GOP back into power in 2010.
Without the TEA Party, the GOP would still be in the minority in the House.
And yet, the GOP feels absolutely free to continue insulting us and stabbing us in the back.
STOP GIVING MONEY TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Contribute only to conservative candidates.
If the GOP gives us Chris Christie, stay home and let the establishment LOSE.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Leshno, 11/6/2013 2:38:41 PM     (No. 9601572)

By my way of thinking, Christie redefines opportunist. As ineloquent as it sounds, he is quite simply a bully and a showoff. I don´t trust him.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/6/2013 2:47:49 PM     (No. 9601585)

Here´s my feelings about Christie, he´s the republican party´s Bill Clinton all about himself and can´t be trusted but I´m keeping an open mind for 2016 although I´m a Ted Cruz guy because the democrat party is on Saul Alinsky steroids right now. I doubt the nominee will be Hillary I think it might be bloomberg or some worse fascist.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/6/2013 2:50:26 PM     (No. 9601589)

Question: "Can the TEA Party ever accept Christie?"

Answer: Can oil mix with water? (1) Refused to allow New Jersey to join with fourteen other states in their efforts to stop Obamacare (2)Supports assault weapons ban, opposes permitting conceal and carry laws in New Jersey (3) Supports state funded abortion and has made personal donations to Planned Parenthood (4) Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (5) Supports homosexual agenda (6) Supported "ground zero" mosque and (7) Appointed founder of The American Muslim Union, Sohail Mohammed, to the New Jersey Superior Court.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 11/6/2013 2:51:11 PM     (No. 9601592)

#6, "pro-abortion"? In a 2011 interview, Christie said his conversion on the issue had occurred in 1995. It followed a doctor´s visit made 6 months before his daughter´s birth.

"I had been pro-choice before that. It was just kind of the default position that I took,"

Source: Rise to Power, by B. Ingle & M. Symons, p. 54 , Jun 5, 2012

"anti-gun"?

"The governor enraged anti-gun groups when he rejected three of the Democrat-controlled Legislature’s radical bills on Friday night."

From an Emily Miller, Washington Examiner piece, 8/19/13

Free trade? Please cite your source, as I cannot find any pro or con from Christie.

Obamacare? Christie vetoed a bill to create the state exchanges, joining several red states.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 11/6/2013 2:51:50 PM     (No. 9601594)

Fat chance!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/6/2013 2:56:59 PM     (No. 9601604)

I would accept Christie over every democrat except Zell Miller.

I would accept Christie over McCain or Gramnesty.

Were he to be the nominee, I would vote for him over just about any democrat that the dems would nominate.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: snapper451, 11/6/2013 3:01:54 PM     (No. 9601613)

What part of no do you not understand - the "N" or the "O"? Christie is a liberal, plain and simple, not even a RINO, a liberal.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/6/2013 3:03:28 PM     (No. 9601614)

Let´s see. First Christie scheduled an expensive special election for the open US Senate seat to prevent the equally popular Cory Booker from endangering Christie´s huge lead. Then despite this suppression of Democrat turnout it seems Christie had no coattails in the races for the New Jersey legislature.

Why would anyone want him for another office after that. He´s only out for himself.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Norgay, 11/6/2013 3:07:37 PM     (No. 9601618)



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Reply 22 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/6/2013 3:09:37 PM     (No. 9601621)

#6,
It was not the 3 bills rejected, it was the 6 signed. Nice try.
As for abortion, he accepted the Uhhhbama medicaid expansion that....yep, funded PP.
He grew Gov´t by +%7. He grew the # of +$100K state workers.Exponentially.
He has kiboshed free trade by allowing Amazon to collect taxes for out of state purchases.

Chris Christie is as much a conservative, heck Republican as I am a midget black female roller derby player.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Norgay, 11/6/2013 3:12:25 PM     (No. 9601627)

Sorry for the double post I don´t no what happen there.
I was going to say that Christie was Bill Clinton with out the Charisma and the bimbo’s but 14 beat me to it.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/6/2013 3:15:21 PM     (No. 9601636)

The "puff" of Christie for 2016 this morning all over FOX has been nauseating. Predictable yet nauseating. I am glad it looks like other conservatives are having the same reaction. We know the game, been there done that the last two presidential election cycles. Christie has zero to offer any voter who is a Constitutional conservative. Interesting that any conservative-leaning Republican is held to strict standards of perfection as to personal history and behavior (Palin, Joe Wilson,Cain, etc.) However, now we are told by the establishment that this crass, rude loudmouth who seems to belong on Real Housewives of NJ is gonna swoop in and represent the nation? This is a joke, right?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: fritzilou, 11/6/2013 3:27:02 PM     (No. 9601654)

NO!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: rtwngprof, 11/6/2013 3:29:40 PM     (No. 9601660)

It looks like he´s replacing McCain as the media´s favorite Republican. They´ll tout him until he´s actually running against a Dem for president, then they´ll abandon him. The press constantly plays this game of painting some moderate to liberal Republican as "electable" to get the Republican party to nominate him, which alienates the conservative base and leads to another Dem victory. And they´ll fall for it again.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/6/2013 3:34:01 PM     (No. 9601670)

Hell no.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mort, 11/6/2013 3:46:00 PM     (No. 9601682)

Nope

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Reply 29 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/6/2013 3:48:19 PM     (No. 9601683)

There´s still a long way to go til the 2013 campaign and many primaries to get through. We´ll see who runs, who does not, who does well, who falls short. PPP has Christie and Paull barely leading Cruz and Jeb Bush. I don´t believe Senator Rubio, Congressman Ryan or Jeb Bush will run. I don´t think Hillary Clinton will run, although she has the coy little will-I-or-won´t-I minuet down pat. Paul and Christie will be in. Elizabeth Warren cannot wait. Surely Biden will reconsider joining in. Susana Martinez might, but I suspect she would rather be VP. Rick Santorum is making noises and will probably run. I hope Bobby Jindal runs, but we´ll see.
It should be fun.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/6/2013 3:49:28 PM     (No. 9601686)

I forgot to list Governor Perry. I don´t think he wants to be President.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/6/2013 4:09:40 PM     (No. 9601711)

As George Neumayr at the American Spectator pointed out, Christie couldn´t even turn his blue state red. If he has no coattails for that, how could he win the presidency?
If he is the Republican nominee, I won´t vote for President. Voting for him is the same thing as not voting.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: kahunavol, 11/6/2013 4:10:15 PM     (No. 9601712)

When did New Jersey become a bellwether state?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/6/2013 4:30:28 PM     (No. 9601739)

#26 is right. Foregone conclusion: Christie vs. PIAPS in ´16 with the media fawning over both right up until the morning after the second of the two conventions - and we all know what will happen at that point.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/6/2013 4:36:32 PM     (No. 9601754)

Not in a million years. Lots of reasons, but the Ground Zero mosque is the clincher.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 11/6/2013 4:38:09 PM     (No. 9601760)

Making out with Obama post-Sandy did it for me. You know what you can do with all that sand, Crisco.

Just what we need - another liberal that won´t even be able to win his own state in the general election.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: smcchk, 11/6/2013 4:47:14 PM     (No. 9601774)

Tea Partiers, you have strong opinions but your W-L record is not that great. Meanwhile, there is a Democrat crook to be governor in VA, a Democrat Senate, a disaster of a President, and you are turning up your noses at Christie! He is not my ideal either but if he is that popular, he is worth consideration. We are on the Titanic and it is not time to be picky about life boats!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: kahunavol, 11/6/2013 5:17:40 PM     (No. 9601819)

Everyone knows we´re on the Titanic and it is a disaster. The issue is how did it happen. John McCain and Mitt Romney failed to win enough votes to defeat first a man who was a complete cipher and the same man who has led the country down the road to complete socialism. The numbers say that wasn´t because conservatives and Christians didn´t vote for them, that is nothing more than a meme until someone produces evidence to the contrary. I have produced numbers that show my claim to be verifiable.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/6/2013 5:28:53 PM     (No. 9601834)

I held my nose and voted for Dole.
I held my nose and voted for McCain.
I held my nose and voted for Romney.
If Christie is the nominee, I stay home because, as his opponent has said "What difference does it make".
In the meantime, let´s try to take the majority in both Houses..which will slow down whoever the next president is.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: yuban, 11/6/2013 8:09:34 PM     (No. 9602019)

#29 "it should be fun"? That tells me all I need to know. It is a game to Moderates but I see no fun in watching my Country turn Socialist before my eyes.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Starlady, 11/6/2013 8:12:05 PM     (No. 9602022)

#36, the fun #29 was talking about in 2016 will occur when the Tea Party sits back and watches the GOP self destruct. I will never vote for Chris Christie,nor any other GOP RINO.
I don ´t care anymore if the GOP loses. Name one good thing the GOP has done for the country in the last ten years. They don´t do anything except make themselves richer. They also lie as much as the guy in the WH, they just aren´t as in your face .
Yes, the fun we will have in 2016, just can´t wait. s/o

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Reply 41 - Posted by: smcchk, 11/6/2013 9:24:43 PM     (No. 9602100)

The main reason to have any GOP as CinC instead of a Democrat is because of national defense. We can argue all we want but what will we do when the terrorists attack? Any GOP candidate would be 100 better than any Democrat. We have soldiers with their lives on the line every day. They aren’t worried about social issues or anything else except surviving another day. Let’s keep them in mind.

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Joan Eisenstodt didn´t have a stopwatch when she went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist recently, but she is certain the physician was not in the exam room with her for more than three or four minutes. "He looked up my nose, said it was inflamed, told me to see the nurse for a prescription and was gone," said the 66-year-old Washington, D.C., consultant, who was suffering from an acute sinus infection. When she started protesting the doctor´s choice of medication, "He just cut me off totally," she said. "I´ve never been in and out from a visit faster." These days,

A Marine´s story: Women set up
to fail USMC’s most grueling test

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ABC News, by Martha Raddatz*    Original Article
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At a petite 5’3’’, Sage Santangelo may not look like a combat fighter at first glance. But the female second lieutenant has never let that hold her back from pursuing her dream of becoming an infantry officer in the Marine Corps. Growing up, Santangelo found she was always able to keep up with the guys and enjoyed playing hockey on all boys’ teams. But when she joined the Marines, Santangelo found the playing field changed; she was segregated into female-only training units and as a woman, was relegated to less strenuous physical training than her male counterparts. And that’s why,

A rancher´s armed battle against the US
government is standard libertarian fare

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Guardian [UK], by Kieran Suckling    Original Article
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Perhaps the most remarkable feature of American democracy is the magnificent estate of public land that it reserved from the very beginning for the use of all citizens, rich or poor. There is nothing like it in the democracies of Europe, which came into being with nations already carved up into private fiefdoms. The Great Idea that hundreds of millions of acres of forests, deserts, rivers and prairies should be owned by, and managed for, the public interest has had a profound and lasting influence on American culture. But not everyone has accepted it. Cliven Bundy’s armed standoff with the National Park

Stop dressing so tacky for church
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CNN, by John Blake    Original Article
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If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
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Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by

Wasserman-Schultz: Midterm Election
´Absolutely Not´ A Referendum on Obama

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
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"No, absolutely not," the November midterm election is not a referendum on President Obama and his policies, Democrat Party Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) told NBC´s "Meet the Press" on Sunday. "[T]hese elections, particularly the Senate elections, are referendums on the candidates running," she said. Asked about vulnerable Democrats who have criticized President Obama´s flawed healthcare law, Wasserman Schultz said they are running their own race. "They have to talk about and focus on the issues that are important to their constituents. And what´s also true is, if you look at the success rate and the track record of

John Kerry’s Easter Message:
I’m ‘First Catholic Secretary of
State in 33 Years’

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Cybercast News Service, by Terence P. Jeffrey    Original Article
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In an op-ed published in the Boston Globe on Easter Sunday and posted on the State Department website, Secretary of State John Kerry recalled his days as an altar boy and pointed out that he is “the first Catholic Secretary of State in 33 years.” Alexander Haig, who served as secretary of state to President Ronald Reagan from January 1981 to July 1982, was also a Catholic. Last month, I traveled to Rome with President Obama, where I was honored to meet His Holiness Pope Francis,” said Kerry. “As an altar boy six decades ago, I never imagined that I

USAID documents cite Hillary
Clinton in chaos of Afghan aid

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Washington Times, by Guy Taylor    Original Article
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In internal government documents with potential repercussions for the 2016 presidential election, top officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development repeatedly cited former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton for setting into motion a policy to waive restrictions on who could receive U.S. aid in Afghanistan, resulting in millions of dollars in U.S. funds going directly into the coffers of Afghan ministries known to be rife with corruption. References to Mrs. Clinton’s role in the policy first appeared in a November 2012 USAID action memo, which outlined how U.S. officials made a “strategic foreign-assistance

The Incredibly Stupid War on
the Common Core

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Daily Beast, by Charles Upton Sahm    Original Article
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An unholy alliance between the Tea Party and the teachers’ unions threatens to derail the most promising education reform in decades. Like Rocky in the early rounds, the new Common Core math and reading standards are being pummeled left and right. From the left: Education icon Diane Ravitch says the Common Core represents a “utilitarian view of education” that is too focused on testing, data, and accountability. From the right, “ObamaCore” is denounced as federal intrusion. Heritage Foundation education fellow Lindsey Burke calls it “an effort to impose a uniform, standardized curriculum across the country.” From the further right, the always


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