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Can the Tea Party Ever Accept Christie?
Commentary Magazine, by Jonathan S. Tobin

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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/6/2013 1:49:54 PM

Yesterday’s exit polls from New Jersey won’t easily be forgotten. They will be cited and repeated endlessly by pundits and Governor Chris Christie’s supporters to bolster his case for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. Any Republican who can get 60 percent of the vote in a blue state is bound to become the subject of presidential speculation. But when a Republican who is pro-life and has fought a running battle with labor unions and Democrats over taxes and budgets does so, he parachutes into the first tier of any discussion of future candidates. That Christie did this while winning

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: atexaslupine, 11/6/2013 1:55:24 PM     (No. 9601505)

no. glad to clear that up for you.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ben Around, 11/6/2013 2:01:10 PM     (No. 9601516)

Mittens won the governorship of a blue state. How´d he work out?
How about christie´s refusal to fight obamacare in the court and his embrace of the pork spending for his state from it? The T Party certainly does approve of that kind of behavior.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Cleanhouseindc, 11/6/2013 2:01:38 PM     (No. 9601518)

Maybe some people will. Not me.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/6/2013 2:07:03 PM     (No. 9601525)

Only when pigs fly.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: CEP, 11/6/2013 2:07:38 PM     (No. 9601526)

Let´s see, there are 49 other states so because he won one state everyone should go gaga over Christie? Sorry but no.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/6/2013 2:09:28 PM     (No. 9601527)

Here´s what will happen if Christie is the GOP nom. The Dems will put up one of their horrors and many of us will realize that Christie is the better choice and hold our noses. Many will also say "no way" and we´ll have more destruction of our country -- if there´s anything left.

Christie, however, is worse than Romney was. He´s anti-gun, anti-free market, pro-Obamacare, pro-abortion and anti-free speech.

He´s a Democrat calling himself a Republican. A totalitarian. Why Ann Coulter ever fell in love with him, I´ll never know.

So what do we do? I have no idea. It´s for sure the RNC will not support a conservative candidate so it´s that much more difficult for a fiscal con to win. We need an alternative to the RNC is what we need. Not a third party, but a subgroup that can administer the donations we want to give and that can amass enough assets to smoke out the false flag candidates like Sarvis and nip that nonsense in the bud.

The RNC has to go no matter what.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Passion, 11/6/2013 2:10:52 PM     (No. 9601530)

Perhaps we should reverse this question…..the tea party accepts estabs far more often than vice versa…..



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Reply 8 - Posted by: msjena, 11/6/2013 2:12:52 PM     (No. 9601535)

Didn´t the Republicans try this the last time, with a smarter, better-looking candidate? Somewhere Hillary is cackling.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 11/6/2013 2:19:24 PM     (No. 9601545)

You mean accept the Republican governor who supported a Democrat in the special election for senator?

Or maybe the one who just after winning re-election proclaimed that he is not a moderate but a conservative?

Or is it the one that supports amnesty for illegals?

Sorry, 3 strikes, you´re out.

Not just no, but Freaking HELL NO!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: nimby, 11/6/2013 2:30:23 PM     (No. 9601558)

A resounding NO. Especially after we learned that Christie refused to campaign for Cucinelli.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: absalom, 11/6/2013 2:35:46 PM     (No. 9601567)

Count on predictable ´must read´ posts like this from the progressive contingent; relentlessly beating the drum for the likes of Christie, just as they did for Willard.
Principled conservatives need only glance at Christies record of governance to emphatically reject him. He presides over the highest taxed (business and property) state in the nation and has done absolutely squat to mitigate that environment.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: flatwater, 11/6/2013 2:37:10 PM     (No. 9601568)

It was the TEA Party and social conservatives who swept the GOP back into power in 2010.
Without the TEA Party, the GOP would still be in the minority in the House.
And yet, the GOP feels absolutely free to continue insulting us and stabbing us in the back.
STOP GIVING MONEY TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Contribute only to conservative candidates.
If the GOP gives us Chris Christie, stay home and let the establishment LOSE.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Leshno, 11/6/2013 2:38:41 PM     (No. 9601572)

By my way of thinking, Christie redefines opportunist. As ineloquent as it sounds, he is quite simply a bully and a showoff. I don´t trust him.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/6/2013 2:47:49 PM     (No. 9601585)

Here´s my feelings about Christie, he´s the republican party´s Bill Clinton all about himself and can´t be trusted but I´m keeping an open mind for 2016 although I´m a Ted Cruz guy because the democrat party is on Saul Alinsky steroids right now. I doubt the nominee will be Hillary I think it might be bloomberg or some worse fascist.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/6/2013 2:50:26 PM     (No. 9601589)

Question: "Can the TEA Party ever accept Christie?"

Answer: Can oil mix with water? (1) Refused to allow New Jersey to join with fourteen other states in their efforts to stop Obamacare (2)Supports assault weapons ban, opposes permitting conceal and carry laws in New Jersey (3) Supports state funded abortion and has made personal donations to Planned Parenthood (4) Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (5) Supports homosexual agenda (6) Supported "ground zero" mosque and (7) Appointed founder of The American Muslim Union, Sohail Mohammed, to the New Jersey Superior Court.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 11/6/2013 2:51:11 PM     (No. 9601592)

#6, "pro-abortion"? In a 2011 interview, Christie said his conversion on the issue had occurred in 1995. It followed a doctor´s visit made 6 months before his daughter´s birth.

"I had been pro-choice before that. It was just kind of the default position that I took,"

Source: Rise to Power, by B. Ingle & M. Symons, p. 54 , Jun 5, 2012

"anti-gun"?

"The governor enraged anti-gun groups when he rejected three of the Democrat-controlled Legislature’s radical bills on Friday night."

From an Emily Miller, Washington Examiner piece, 8/19/13

Free trade? Please cite your source, as I cannot find any pro or con from Christie.

Obamacare? Christie vetoed a bill to create the state exchanges, joining several red states.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 11/6/2013 2:51:50 PM     (No. 9601594)

Fat chance!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/6/2013 2:56:59 PM     (No. 9601604)

I would accept Christie over every democrat except Zell Miller.

I would accept Christie over McCain or Gramnesty.

Were he to be the nominee, I would vote for him over just about any democrat that the dems would nominate.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: snapper451, 11/6/2013 3:01:54 PM     (No. 9601613)

What part of no do you not understand - the "N" or the "O"? Christie is a liberal, plain and simple, not even a RINO, a liberal.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 11/6/2013 3:03:28 PM     (No. 9601614)

Let´s see. First Christie scheduled an expensive special election for the open US Senate seat to prevent the equally popular Cory Booker from endangering Christie´s huge lead. Then despite this suppression of Democrat turnout it seems Christie had no coattails in the races for the New Jersey legislature.

Why would anyone want him for another office after that. He´s only out for himself.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Norgay, 11/6/2013 3:07:37 PM     (No. 9601618)



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Reply 22 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/6/2013 3:09:37 PM     (No. 9601621)

#6,
It was not the 3 bills rejected, it was the 6 signed. Nice try.
As for abortion, he accepted the Uhhhbama medicaid expansion that....yep, funded PP.
He grew Gov´t by +%7. He grew the # of +$100K state workers.Exponentially.
He has kiboshed free trade by allowing Amazon to collect taxes for out of state purchases.

Chris Christie is as much a conservative, heck Republican as I am a midget black female roller derby player.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Norgay, 11/6/2013 3:12:25 PM     (No. 9601627)

Sorry for the double post I don´t no what happen there.
I was going to say that Christie was Bill Clinton with out the Charisma and the bimbo’s but 14 beat me to it.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/6/2013 3:15:21 PM     (No. 9601636)

The "puff" of Christie for 2016 this morning all over FOX has been nauseating. Predictable yet nauseating. I am glad it looks like other conservatives are having the same reaction. We know the game, been there done that the last two presidential election cycles. Christie has zero to offer any voter who is a Constitutional conservative. Interesting that any conservative-leaning Republican is held to strict standards of perfection as to personal history and behavior (Palin, Joe Wilson,Cain, etc.) However, now we are told by the establishment that this crass, rude loudmouth who seems to belong on Real Housewives of NJ is gonna swoop in and represent the nation? This is a joke, right?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: fritzilou, 11/6/2013 3:27:02 PM     (No. 9601654)

NO!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: rtwngprof, 11/6/2013 3:29:40 PM     (No. 9601660)

It looks like he´s replacing McCain as the media´s favorite Republican. They´ll tout him until he´s actually running against a Dem for president, then they´ll abandon him. The press constantly plays this game of painting some moderate to liberal Republican as "electable" to get the Republican party to nominate him, which alienates the conservative base and leads to another Dem victory. And they´ll fall for it again.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/6/2013 3:34:01 PM     (No. 9601670)

Hell no.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mort, 11/6/2013 3:46:00 PM     (No. 9601682)

Nope

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Reply 29 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/6/2013 3:48:19 PM     (No. 9601683)

There´s still a long way to go til the 2013 campaign and many primaries to get through. We´ll see who runs, who does not, who does well, who falls short. PPP has Christie and Paull barely leading Cruz and Jeb Bush. I don´t believe Senator Rubio, Congressman Ryan or Jeb Bush will run. I don´t think Hillary Clinton will run, although she has the coy little will-I-or-won´t-I minuet down pat. Paul and Christie will be in. Elizabeth Warren cannot wait. Surely Biden will reconsider joining in. Susana Martinez might, but I suspect she would rather be VP. Rick Santorum is making noises and will probably run. I hope Bobby Jindal runs, but we´ll see.
It should be fun.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/6/2013 3:49:28 PM     (No. 9601686)

I forgot to list Governor Perry. I don´t think he wants to be President.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/6/2013 4:09:40 PM     (No. 9601711)

As George Neumayr at the American Spectator pointed out, Christie couldn´t even turn his blue state red. If he has no coattails for that, how could he win the presidency?
If he is the Republican nominee, I won´t vote for President. Voting for him is the same thing as not voting.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: kahunavol, 11/6/2013 4:10:15 PM     (No. 9601712)

When did New Jersey become a bellwether state?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/6/2013 4:30:28 PM     (No. 9601739)

#26 is right. Foregone conclusion: Christie vs. PIAPS in ´16 with the media fawning over both right up until the morning after the second of the two conventions - and we all know what will happen at that point.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/6/2013 4:36:32 PM     (No. 9601754)

Not in a million years. Lots of reasons, but the Ground Zero mosque is the clincher.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 11/6/2013 4:38:09 PM     (No. 9601760)

Making out with Obama post-Sandy did it for me. You know what you can do with all that sand, Crisco.

Just what we need - another liberal that won´t even be able to win his own state in the general election.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: smcchk, 11/6/2013 4:47:14 PM     (No. 9601774)

Tea Partiers, you have strong opinions but your W-L record is not that great. Meanwhile, there is a Democrat crook to be governor in VA, a Democrat Senate, a disaster of a President, and you are turning up your noses at Christie! He is not my ideal either but if he is that popular, he is worth consideration. We are on the Titanic and it is not time to be picky about life boats!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: kahunavol, 11/6/2013 5:17:40 PM     (No. 9601819)

Everyone knows we´re on the Titanic and it is a disaster. The issue is how did it happen. John McCain and Mitt Romney failed to win enough votes to defeat first a man who was a complete cipher and the same man who has led the country down the road to complete socialism. The numbers say that wasn´t because conservatives and Christians didn´t vote for them, that is nothing more than a meme until someone produces evidence to the contrary. I have produced numbers that show my claim to be verifiable.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/6/2013 5:28:53 PM     (No. 9601834)

I held my nose and voted for Dole.
I held my nose and voted for McCain.
I held my nose and voted for Romney.
If Christie is the nominee, I stay home because, as his opponent has said "What difference does it make".
In the meantime, let´s try to take the majority in both Houses..which will slow down whoever the next president is.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: yuban, 11/6/2013 8:09:34 PM     (No. 9602019)

#29 "it should be fun"? That tells me all I need to know. It is a game to Moderates but I see no fun in watching my Country turn Socialist before my eyes.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Starlady, 11/6/2013 8:12:05 PM     (No. 9602022)

#36, the fun #29 was talking about in 2016 will occur when the Tea Party sits back and watches the GOP self destruct. I will never vote for Chris Christie,nor any other GOP RINO.
I don ´t care anymore if the GOP loses. Name one good thing the GOP has done for the country in the last ten years. They don´t do anything except make themselves richer. They also lie as much as the guy in the WH, they just aren´t as in your face .
Yes, the fun we will have in 2016, just can´t wait. s/o

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Reply 41 - Posted by: smcchk, 11/6/2013 9:24:43 PM     (No. 9602100)

The main reason to have any GOP as CinC instead of a Democrat is because of national defense. We can argue all we want but what will we do when the terrorists attack? Any GOP candidate would be 100 better than any Democrat. We have soldiers with their lives on the line every day. They aren’t worried about social issues or anything else except surviving another day. Let’s keep them in mind.

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Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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