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Trayvon Martin´s mom: Clarify
´stand your ground´ laws

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:Scottyboy, 10/29/2013 12:06:01 PM

Sybrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, is telling a Senate panel Tuesday that states must clarify their "stand your ground" self-defense laws. The laws, adopted in some form by at least 22 states, generally cancel a person´s duty to retreat in the face of a serious physical threat. But the 2012 shooting of Fulton´s unarmed son, Trayvon Martin, 17, and the acquittal of George Zimmerman this year provided evidence that "stand your ground" laws can be confusing and applied inconsistently, she said. "By being unclear in when and how it is applied, stand your ground in its current form is far

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Young Tray´s absent mother is getting used by the left almost as bad as Cindy Sheehan was during the Bush Years.
Sorry lady, but:
1). Stand your ground laws had nothing to do with you son getting himself killed and,
2). Knowing the basic premise of self defense is a rudimentary element of being a good citizen, if you still don´t understand it, blame the public schools and you own parents for dropping the ball.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 10/29/2013 12:11:57 PM     (No. 9587870)

Honey, it´s easy! If I feel my life is threatened, then I will defend myself, by shooting or any other means at my disposal.

As my Gunny used to say: "You can be a Marine, or a Cop. Not both!"

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lylacat, 10/29/2013 12:18:39 PM     (No. 9587886)

Trayvon Martin´s mom is skimming this to get yet more money. So far, this "absent" mother who did not give a hoot for the child she gave up at two years of age has made over a Million Dollars off the death of her son who was a thug; of course, she wants more.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 10/29/2013 12:20:24 PM     (No. 9587892)

Senáte panel? Why are they giving the mother of a thug wannabe such credibility?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: BigA, 10/29/2013 12:21:33 PM     (No. 9587895)

If you ambush someone you should be prepared for the consequences, period. It´s obvious in this case that there was no reason for a trial.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 10/29/2013 12:26:21 PM     (No. 9587905)

Lousy reporting again by the ap. sybrina´s real objection to the law is that in Florida it shields GZ from a wrongful death lawsuit. It´s all about the money.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/29/2013 12:28:47 PM     (No. 9587909)

How about a clarification of the "don´t bash someone´s skull onto a concrete sidewalk" law instead ?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/29/2013 12:34:48 PM     (No. 9587934)

What makes her an authority on Stand Your Ground Law?
It had nothing to do with her thug son, was not used as a defense, so what makes her an expert?
Get OUT of the lives of the good citizens of the State of Florida.
Reminds me of the actress who went before Congress and created an Alar scare about apples..she testified because she had played a farmer in a movie !
Maybe Sybrina stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night! Congress is disgusting, giving this leech a platform when regular citizens don´t have a voice.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: right-turn, 10/29/2013 12:37:56 PM     (No. 9587941)

As all but the low information and liars know.

This was NOT a ´stand your ground´ case.No one has to have their head smashed into the pavement and not respond. Response with a gun is OK.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 10/29/2013 12:39:03 PM     (No. 9587946)

Here is your clarification Mrs. Martin.
Let´s use your delinquent son as an example.

If you have a son, maybe his name is Trayvon as a random name.

If he is a fan of "Purple Lean" and is out during a rain storm getting the needed ingredients to mix up a batch.

Let´s just say in our example that he is also a fan of UFC techniques. If, in his agitated state he runs into a neighborhood watch guy just doing his volunteer job of protecting the neighborhood property.

If our "fictional" Purple Lean guy is bashing the head against the cement curb of our neighborhood watch guy, he has every reason to kill you if the opportunity comes up.

I hope this new explanation helps.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/29/2013 12:40:18 PM     (No. 9587948)

Here´s some clarity, Momma. Work, raise your kids,and they won´t become drug addicts, street fighters, thugs, and people for which there is no place in the real world.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 10/29/2013 12:54:06 PM     (No. 9587983)

BS ALERT! The Travon case had nothing to do with Stand Your Ground. How do you retreat when some one is sitting on and beating the crap out of you?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/29/2013 12:55:28 PM     (No. 9587987)

Show up at my house without an invitation a bow-tie and a tool box and you will be hearing from my attorneys.... Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson.

Smile.....wait for the flash !

Hold still now....let´s do one more.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: li´l Abner, 10/29/2013 1:05:01 PM     (No. 9588015)

If the law isn´t clear to her, maybe it´s because it was presented to her in cursive. To understand it you must first be able to read it.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/29/2013 1:05:20 PM     (No. 9588017)

All those contributions must be drying up.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: m0j0mojo, 10/29/2013 1:11:07 PM     (No. 9588033)

it´s simple don´t attack or try to rob someone there is no ground to stand

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 10/29/2013 1:27:33 PM     (No. 9588057)

The Stand Your Ground laws have as much to do with this case as does the price of navel oranges. She´s just making money off her dead son and milking this for attention.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: yo-yo, 10/29/2013 1:29:51 PM     (No. 9588063)

How about:
Don´t make "instant justice" a crime.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 10/29/2013 1:30:32 PM     (No. 9588066)

Sybrina, it´s really hard to just "retreat" when you are laying on the ground with a large strong gang banger sitting on top of you trying to beat you to death with his bare fists.

Does that clear it up for you any?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: skedaddle, 10/29/2013 1:48:05 PM     (No. 9588103)

Maybe she can get on the ground and pretend to be George Zimmerman. Get a bigger, stronger person to straddle her and bang her head against the ground. "Stand your ground" means you can do what you have to to make your head stop smashing against the pavement. Got it?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/29/2013 1:48:26 PM     (No. 9588105)

We got three of them on this thread who think being pushed down and then getting your had hit on concrete is required of the self-defense basis of the Zimmerman defense.

It´s not. All you need is to be pushed hard enough, or pushed down. The perp was seen ON TOP whaling away, and I´m not sure he even needed to be doing that ~

As far as getting your head hit, anything short of a concussion ..... could be meaningful or not.

There´s a case working where a bunch of thugs simply pushed an old man down ~ I think he was 90 ~ in a robbery. He died. They are going away for a long time.

Every now and then we´ll hear of a blind person shooting a perp. They always get off.

Self defense is self defense. I don´t have to get hurt ~ just disturbed sufficiently for me to engage in it.

Has nothing to do with standing my ground.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Polecat49, 10/29/2013 1:49:23 PM     (No. 9588108)

The ´stand your ground law´ never came into effect. She is just denying the fact that her gang banger son was trying to bash a man´s brains out, the man happened to know how to use the 9mm semi-automatic in his legal possession.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Phosphene, 10/29/2013 1:57:32 PM     (No. 9588132)

martin is an irrelevant non-factor, a near martyr whose corpse was exploited by the left to further gun control and repeal stand your ground. both failed, now he´s just another dead thug

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Reply 23 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 10/29/2013 1:58:43 PM     (No. 9588136)

Sybrina,

I am sorry you lost your son, but truthfully you did not lose him in 2012. You lost him when you decided that your life was more important than your responsibility. You conceived a child with a gang member. You did not make a home for the child. You did not offer the child up for adoption in order to give him a good start in life. Rather you kept the child to generate revenue to fund your life.

´Stand your ground´ was not an issue in the case of Florida vs. Zimmerman. It was not an element of the case because Mr. Zimmerman was laying on the ground with your son astride of him inflicting multiple blows in a Mixed Martial Arts manner and method when upon spotting Mr. Zimmerman´s lawfully carried weapon he attempted to wrest the weapon from Mr. Zimmerman. At that point Mr. Zimmerman accessed the weapon and discharged it into your son, Mr. Martin.

There was no avenue of retreat for Mr. Zimmerman. Your son was within his rights to be walking on the street right up to the moment that he assaulted Mr. Zimmerman.

Finally, a little thought exercise...If your son was concerned with his personal safety on the rainy night, why was he talking to his girl friend on the phone? Why didn´t he call 911? Is it because he didn´t trust and respect the police? Did you teach him to respect and communicate with law enforcement? Or did you teach him to distrust law enforcement, a pathology that ultimately lead to a string of bad decisions which ultimately cost him his life.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 10/29/2013 2:01:47 PM     (No. 9588143)

Look on the bright side, Trayvon´s Baby Momma, if your thug son had won the fight and the Creepy White Hispanic guy been killed you would be broke and still in the ghetto on welfare.
Now Saint Trayvon has handed you the lottery so be happy.
I want to know what this fiasco called a Senate Panel is costing us in taxpayer money and wasteful spending.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/29/2013 2:17:27 PM     (No. 9588166)

#5, and others - the defense did not assert stand your ground - instead, they used the traditional self defense justification.
Since stand your ground was not used, Zimmerman is subject to a civil lawsuit, and I expect this famewh*re, Saint Trayvon´s biological mother, to pursue a case.


The confusion here is caused by the judge´s instructions to the jury, where in florida, boilerplate language includes the three words in question.
Durbin is just trying to divert attention from the Kenyan trainwreck.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/29/2013 2:22:22 PM     (No. 9588178)

The queen of the lo-fos wants it in ebonics?

Someone needs to tell her, in no uncertain terms (words of one syllable?) that Stand Your Ground had NOTHING to do with her son´s death. He brought it on himself by stupidly attacking and physically subduing a smaller man who happened to have an equalizer. Had it been SYG, Zimmerman could have chosen to run for it or stand his ground and deal with her son. Her son took away Zimmerman´s choice by sitting on him and pinning him on the ground.

Self defense. Not Stand Your Ground.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: rmsimms, 10/29/2013 2:31:44 PM     (No. 9588191)

They didn´t invoke it at the trial, #25, but they still can in a Civil suit. One of Zimmerman´s lawyers said if the "parents" tried to sue Zimmerman they would respond by moving for a SYG hearing...at which his acquittal would be relevant.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: strike3, 10/29/2013 2:51:35 PM     (No. 9588223)

Why, mom? Your son is dead because he was an ignorant racist. The law meant nothing to him.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 10/29/2013 4:09:47 PM     (No. 9588328)

I wonder how the ´perpetual victim´ Brady´s like being upstaged by this Tray-mom who is still trying to bowl for dollars. Posters above indicate she didn´t raise him. They are correct.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/30/2013 1:23:06 AM     (No. 9588978)

Stand your ground is a state law and not a federal law, but don´t let that stop you for your umpteenth time of fame.

What mother rushes out and trademarks her son´s name ? Where is your guilt for not being able to handle him and sent him to live and die with his father to avoid punishment in South Florida for the crimes the little thug committed ?

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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
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Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

You lie! Reporters accuse Obama
of deception, demagoguery just
to get attention

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
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Prominent Washington correspondents are accusing President Obama and his aides of knowingly stretching the truth on issues like the so-called women´s pay gap just to create controversy and keep issues -- and the president -- relevant. Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus kicked off the attack last week when she blasted as “demagoguery” the administration´s tactics during the pay gap debate. “The level of hyperbole -- actually, of demagoguery -- that Democrats have engaged in here is revolting,” she wrote. CBS White House Correspondent Major Garrett then weighed in this week in his National Journal


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