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Obamacare´s Majestic Failure Is
About Much More Than ´Glitches´

Forbes, by Scott W. Atlas, M.D.

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/26/2013 6:02:48 AM

The early impressions are undeniable. ObamaCare is struggling mightily to overcome the severe technical failures of its insurance websites that were expected, in fact fully predicted. The weekend news shows and the nation’s news outlets occupy themselves with technical flaws of the government websites. Interviews concentrate on whether these so-called glitches were foreseeable, if they could have been avoided, and how soon they will be solved. But understand one thing – despite the headlines decrying serious fumbling of the initial implementation, no doubt the Obama administration must be somewhat relieved. The mantra repeated by the mainstream media characterizing the Affordable


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Reply 1 - Posted by: IowaDad, 10/26/2013 6:55:34 AM     (No. 9583028)

For generations, counties and states have found satisfactory ways to provide health care with the minimal amount of overhead costs and bureaucracy for the indigent. In Iowa for instance, we have a program called IowaCare, which provides university level healthcare for ~180,000 poor people. The regulations are 16 pages long. Eligibility determinations required no documentation. 96% of recipients pay nothing for this, and the annual taxpayers cost is less than $2000 per individual. A vast improvement in all respects to the ACA.

Poor people who are sick cannot provide the detailed documentation to overcome the bureaucratic obstructions of Obamacare. The cannot pay deductibles or co-pays. The Feds should stay out of individual healthcare!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: franq, 10/26/2013 7:39:09 AM     (No. 9583088)

I "liked" your post #1. Points out in stark detail why the layers of Federal bureaucracy need to be mortified. But then, what would we do with all the felon Navigators?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: JAN, 10/26/2013 8:08:54 AM     (No. 9583130)

For Americans, the technical failure is the best part.

They just don´t know how lucky they are yet.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/26/2013 8:32:37 AM     (No. 9583169)

I have read expert opinions that simple reform of MedicAid would have covered more people and cost less than a tenth of this monstrosity. Providing ´health care for all´ is obviously not the real goal. This is the once in a lifetime opportunity to permanently expand the vote bank that Liberals have been lying in wait for since FDR. The only saving grace the ´Rats have is that the other party is controlled by the stupidest group of politicians in American history.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 10/26/2013 8:38:43 AM     (No. 9583177)

The lofo young healthy generation will not blink until:
1) John Stewart starts to ridicule Obama or
2) They get a fine on their tax return for not paying for the expensive insurance they have to buy on a 28 hour paycheck.

Will it be in time for the midterm elections? Not if the RINOs get their way with a one year debacle delay.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/26/2013 8:53:59 AM     (No. 9583197)

The failure is not in the glitches. It is in the philosophy. Government is an unwieldy beast unable to competently manage a single program. It wastes money and ignores fraud. The worst part is that it is a nameless faceless bureaucratic nightmare ran by people who can be power hungry bullies. Your health care decisions will be made by a medical coding drone unconcerned with any existing circumstance you may have. The failure is not in the websites. That is a blessing! Anything that will stop this abomination from impacting every man, woman and child should be praised. The people of this country will rue the day Obamacare was passed. Better face the reality now than down the road when you are begging for a doctor´s appointment or approval of a medical procedure you need. These failures are the previews of coming attractions.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/26/2013 8:58:35 AM     (No. 9583205)

That Obama is a Communist is now without doubt. This lost interview proves it.

A key Communist objective is "free" healthcare. Distressing to me is that the Democrat party stands with him shoulder to shoulder on this.

One of the Soviet goals was to take over one of our political parties. Sadly they have succeeded.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Starlady, 10/26/2013 9:05:35 AM     (No. 9583210)

Some posters seem to think Obamacare is about providing healthcare, especially to the poor. Never forget that Obamacare is about POWER.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Hotrod, 10/26/2013 9:24:30 AM     (No. 9583239)

The Obamacare website is like Obamacare itself: You can´t let people know what´s in it, or how much it costs, until they sign up for it!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/26/2013 9:31:55 AM     (No. 9583252)

#9 has got it right. This was never about getting coverage for the uninsured. That was a convenient hook to obfuscate the real goal, which was to make a complete mess of the nation´s healthcare, carefully bankrupting the insurance industry, too. Then, the trap was set to make the public beg the feds for a rescue. Ergo, national healthcare one-payer system.

We are not doomed, however. We can, with the help of a public thoroughly disgusted with Obama´s grand "legacy", get rid of the worst parts, fine-tune the better parts, and get us back to very close to the way we were. Don´t lose hope.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 10/26/2013 9:38:06 AM     (No. 9583260)

How many people will lose their coverage? How many people won´t be able to afford their coverage? How many people will see the price of their coverage doubled or tripled? How many people will see a reduction in their healthcare coverage?

This is the real story. The website problems are minor in comparison. The problems will be ´fixed´, and the left will declare victory, and the people who cannot think for themselves will be believe it.

What a mess.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Arby, 10/26/2013 10:04:40 AM     (No. 9583301)

Our state provides millions of dollars in indigent care. Sometimes the university hospital is compensated, sometimes it is not (in which case it is being subsidized by others within the university system rather than by the taxpayers as a whole).

One of the real problems for Obama is that he prides himself on high tech approaches, particularly to the young. The young are looking at this mess and laughing. When they find out how much they´ll be charged they´ll cry, then scream. Hopefully they´ll then reach for the other lever in the voting booth.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/26/2013 10:52:43 AM     (No. 9583393)

Obama is to Obamacare as...?

1) Daedalus is to Icarus

2) A hammer is to a bent nail

3) Karl Marx is to millions of impoverished dead people

4) All the above

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Reply 14 - Posted by: steph_gray, 10/26/2013 11:27:02 AM     (No. 9583469)

#13 I doubt they´ll reach for the other lever but all that has to happen is that they decide to stay out of the booth. Fashion can help this. In 2008 the fad was for the lofo children to vote. If this debacle continues, with luck, fashion will flip 180 degrees in that group to where "only losers vote."

Fashion is fickle.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Tall Oak, 10/26/2013 11:36:21 AM     (No. 9583487)

I don´t understand zero´s game plan. They knew in advance that the rollout was going to fail and they had a golden opportunity for a winning solution - compromise on the length of the GOP´s "unreasonable" demand to delay the individual mandate to avoid the shutdown.

The rollout´s failure would not have been exposed, the motive would have been spun as presidential leadership, the red state dems would not be on the hot seat, and the press would still blame the Tea Party for not caring about the downtrodden.

I understand that it´s about power and wealth transfer, but when the dust settles, this disaster will benifit the Tea Party´s position. Something more sinister is just below the surface and I haven´t seen anything worth risking senate seats over.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/26/2013 11:49:07 AM     (No. 9583520)

Two thoughts about this. One. Obozocare should be revoked in it´s entirety. Don´t spend another dime on it. Then, select a group consisting of doctors, hospital administrators, insurance executives, etc. and have them create a program, base solely on free market forces, for a health care system. And there can be provisions for those with pre-existing conditions. And, to keep prices down, severe changes in tort laws would have to be enacted. Get the lawyers out of medicine. And get the government out, too. Nothing else will work on a national scale.

Two. All of the messes we see around us, the Obozocare, the foreign policy, all of the exploding scandals, etc. simply re-enforces that wich I have been urging for some time now. It´s high time we had us another little revolution and clean out the cesspool that is D.C. Fix some problems with the Constitution and begin all over again. If we don´t, I don´t think we have a chance in he!!.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Franz, 10/26/2013 1:08:13 PM     (No. 9583642)

The Obamacare web site bares no resemblance to the glowing descriptions of it made repeatedly by Obama and his administration. In reality, the terms that accurately describe the site are FUBAR or TARFU. The term ´Glitches´, which refers to small, easily fixed, problems doesn´t begin to describe what is wrong with this site.

Obama says this problem is solved by calling an 800 telephone number. At the 800 number it is suggested that you go to the site. The web site now suggests that you call the 800 number. This is the Obamacare registration run-around -- problem solved!

If Obamacare cannot handle the relatively easy task of registering people, how can they process policy purchases or numerous medical claims for each person who purchases a policy? Will the Obamacare run-around be the answer to this problem as well? BOHICA!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: grampstosix, 10/26/2013 1:09:22 PM     (No. 9583643)

Adding insult to injury, we now learn that a close friend of Michele Obama from her Princeton days is a senior officer in the company that was awarded the no-bid contract to build the ACA website. Making it look worse is that the bids of other companies were not even considered.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue, 10/26/2013 5:30:47 PM     (No. 9583911)


And I still keep hearing from people that say Zero is going against the Constitution, and he cant change the obambacare bill once it´s passed (which has done now how may time?) and yet no one is stopping him and no one can tell me WHO is suppose to stop him from doing all these things that are wrong!! Anybody know whose job it is to stop this thug? ANYONE?

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