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Business Community Backing Moderates
over Tea Party in GOP Civil War

Bretbart´s Big Government, by Tony Lee

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Posted By:mikkins2, 10/20/2013 6:37:43 AM

Tea Party groups and big-business interests will ratchet up the civil war for the heart and soul of the Republican Party during the 2014 elections. Fed up with conservatives who do not want comprehensive immigration reform and more government expansion, business groups like the Chamber of Commerce will seek to oust conservative lawmakers in Congress. “We are going to get engaged,” Scott Reed, a senior political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, told Bloomberg News. “The need is now more than ever to elect people who understand the free market and not silliness.” The chamber reportedly "spent $35.7 million on federal elections

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Reply 1 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 10/20/2013 6:47:45 AM     (No. 9573371)

these business groups like chamber of commerce are a bunch of traitors...all they care about is getting cheap labor and the American labor force be damned. I suggest any business take a hard look at membership in chambers of commerce..they remind me of the teachers union, speaking for everybody as long as its leftist policy

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bkt23, 10/20/2013 6:52:21 AM     (No. 9573375)

Tea Party folks operate on principle. Republicans - at least those in Congress - cherish campaign funds over principle. Lobby groups naturally gravitate to those more easily manipulated.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/20/2013 7:08:06 AM     (No. 9573382)

I sent a letter to the head of the US C of C a couple of years ago. I continually received letters for awhile trying to get us to join.

They want money. Organizations like these need it to keep alive, they are not actual producers. Mr. Editor calls them "parasites:

Our local C of C head is the same. Makes $90,000 a year to shake hands and do nothing. (In my home town, that is huge money.) Most obnoxious individual. If you breathe in their direction they want you to pony up two to three hundred dollars.

The day we went to our first "breakfast" (not knowing what to do) the head literally chased us down shouting "You didn´t pay!" (the three other employees there all apologized to us later.)

Waste of time, IMHO. US C of C is just another pack of useless lobbyists trying to cancel out your vote.





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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 10/20/2013 7:15:53 AM     (No. 9573389)

The business community is just that, in business. It is not in their corporate or financial interest to support groups whose stated intent is to limit the business community´s reach. Whether or not you agree with that position, anyone should be able to understand it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kerryman, 10/20/2013 7:26:12 AM     (No. 9573405)

About four months ago, our Tea Party took on Lone Star College which wanted to pass a half Billion dollar bond issue with the support of some 48 separate Chambers. Though outspent some 75 to 100 to 1, we prevailed 57 to 43. In areas where we couldn´t make an effort, we lost 54-46. Where we could, we won 73 - 27.

This resulted in a 3% drop in our Community College tax rate when they argued that the Bonds would not increase the tax rate, we countered that defeating the bonds would reduce it.

Beware of business seeking government largesse. They are crony capitalists, wolves in sheep clothing.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 10/20/2013 7:54:11 AM     (No. 9573433)

If the so-called "business community" is so fixated on getting a pool of low wage serfs, it should join the slavery party and become democrats.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 10/20/2013 8:05:11 AM     (No. 9573444)

The "establishment" wants to better control the growth of government, the Tea Party wants to shrink government which means most times SAYING NO IS THE ONLY CORRECT OPTION, else you find yourself controlling the growth which is the trap the appeasers set "Inside the Beltway".

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Reply 8 - Posted by: The Advocate, 10/20/2013 8:16:08 AM     (No. 9573462)

And German industrialists backed Hitler- how did that work out for them?
Didn´t Prescott Bush also back the Nazis until he pivoted and set up U s o when the winds shifted?
Lindbergh?
Kennedy?
Nazis and today´s Jeff Imhelt´s GE, GM et al have much in common. They will lose.
Got TEA?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 10/20/2013 8:16:09 AM     (No. 9573463)

"most of the time saying no is the only correct option"? What happened to offering ideas and finding ways to achieve goals that don´t involve throwing up barricades ahead of time?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/20/2013 8:25:12 AM     (No. 9573475)

The chamber of commerce represents businesses the way the unions represent the rank and file workers. Not so much.

Be mindful when ever you see a blanket term like "the business community"in regard to an opinion. We know Obamacare is killing businesses all over the country and I´d imagine the business owners want it gone at the earlierst possible moment without the usual congressional dithering.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 10/20/2013 8:34:56 AM     (No. 9573488)

"finding ways to achieve goals" means you have bought into the premise that government needs to solve problems. Thanks for making my point!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: EnsignO, 10/20/2013 8:36:57 AM     (No. 9573491)

#8 I hope understands that if it weren´t for the TEA Party and Conservative organizations such as The Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth, America wouldn´t have a prayer of regaining the freedom, liberty, and prosperity that most citizens have enjoyed since our founding.

In the short span of four and one-half years the shackles of "government on steroids" have made our lives less secure - especially our health. If Obama´s plans are carried out to fruition, you will be spied on (probably in you own home), if you go to a doctor and are unlucky enough to be too old, too conservative, or too something else the Obotts frown on, well Death Panels are in store for you.

This is not how I want to spend my twilight years, and I will fight in any way I can to thwart the Obama gang. My only weapon at my disposal right now is in "words" and "feet". I can write and I can march for a cause and I can vote with my feet by not going to stores or other businesses that are not acceptable to me.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/20/2013 8:39:51 AM     (No. 9573495)

#13, that statement makes no logical sense.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mikkins2, 10/20/2013 9:04:25 AM     (No. 9573519)

Actually #13 response is completely logical. Electing government officials who propose solutions to problems that they should have absolutely no business rutting around in, let alone they most likely caused in the first place.

Also the government should not be in the business of helping any business achieve its goals. This leads to favoritism, and lobbying for preferential treatment.
That leads to problems like"to big to fail" and other bailout/protection schemes. The government then gets to decide who wins and loses instead of natural economic forces.

The only contact between government and business should be the tires of their trucks on roads delivering goods to and from.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/20/2013 9:04:37 AM     (No. 9573520)

BTW---- The ´Approval´ of the BBB can be purchased for a couple hundred bucks too.

Same game.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/20/2013 9:12:32 AM     (No. 9573527)

#10 is on the right track. Ultimately a lot of big business can make money under a fascist Obama regime and they know it. Crony is not a bad word to them; it actually has the sound of guaranteed profits. That´s why big business cut deals with ObamaCare and suckled at the generous Green teets of this regime. The name Krupp comes readily to mind.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: RoseOfTexas, 10/20/2013 9:21:08 AM     (No. 9573537)

#13 made perfect sense to me. There are plenty of nutty proposed government solutions that need to be rejected without proposing alternate government solutions. Where in the constitution does it give the government the responsibility or permission to solve all problems?

Take for example the problem of poverty. How many trillions of dollars & opportunities have been wasted since the government declared war on poverty? If the voices rejecting the government solutions proposed back then had won, a lot of suffering would have been avoided. Maybe some back then said, well unless we have our own solution to poverty, we´d better just keep our mouths shut & wait til we win the next election. And 50 years later we´re still waiting.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 10/20/2013 9:27:38 AM     (No. 9573547)

not sure you can really blame the "business community". They have seen more and more how much of a problem it can be when those in power can use the levers of government to attack the opponents - or perceived opponents - at will. Who wants to be audited by the thugs at the IRS? Who wants to be hit with raids like a certain guitar maker was? Who wants Lerner or her successors looking at your books? Who wants zoning changes denied, your delivery trucks harassed, tax incentives granted only to your competitors, the SEIU at your door, ´Occupy´ creeps on YOUR front lawn? Who wants the President or the Governor or the heads of the EPA on national television with Candy Crowley talking about how EEVILLE you are personally (recall the ongoing slanders against the Koch family)??
the business community is more often salaried managers and functionaries and accountants than it is hard-driving entrepreneurs and visionaries. They will keep their heads down and avoid the jack-booted thugs that YOUR votes for "go along to get along" squishes made possible.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/20/2013 9:51:53 AM     (No. 9573584)

#20, I think it´s tough to generalize about ´´the business community.´´ At least three distinct parts of this community come to mind: small business, independent big business, and of course, crony big business. Small business is under siege by the government and lacks the lobbyist army of big business.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 10/20/2013 9:53:20 AM     (No. 9573585)

Let them try - the "Democrat Lite" wing of the Republican Party hasn´t been any more successful than the Tea Party - Dole, McCain and Romney being the most obvious examples of their losing candidates. And let´s not forget how Karl Rove blew through hundreds of millions of their dollars and didn´t back a winning candidate in 2012

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Elvira, 10/20/2013 10:25:24 AM     (No. 9573630)

How to rid ourselves of lobbiests??? Hmmm, term limits, perhaps? Anyone else have an idea?

I´ve got TEA.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: MissMolly, 10/20/2013 10:40:20 AM     (No. 9573652)

Be careful about that broad brush, #23. Jim DeMint is beloved by the Cruz crowd and he is the head honcho at the Heritage Foundation, a big influential LOBBYING group.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/20/2013 10:57:43 AM     (No. 9573687)

The Chamber of Commerce is backing amnesty and cheap illegal labor and the establishment republicans. The tea party movement is a grass roots movement of people who are not wealthy like they are, and cannot afford to be taxed to pay $17 trillion in debt obligations run up by the government, and distributed to someone else. Let those that got the money pay it back.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mikkins2, 10/20/2013 11:24:20 AM     (No. 9573766)

The main reason Heritage Foundation exists is to combat corporate and social engineering lobbyist in the first place. So its fine with me if the Heritage Foundation is dismantled along with every other lobbying group or firm.

I would offer that most likely De Mint would be happy to find other work.

I was once opposed to term limits but the more I understand how Washington D.C. works, and the more that Ted Cruz and other Tea Party leaning elected officials expose how absolutely entrenched the Establishment has become, I feel it is the only way to begin to tear the taxpayer money sucking leeches away from its host.

Its also why I know that trying to reform the Republican Party from within is a waste of resources and time. That chant is a mantra began by the Establishment itself knowing that it will fight any attempt of reform tooth and nail and leave ashes behind after it has looted every piece of gold and silver it can carry out the back door to retirement.

Its the very same reason they keep kicking the can down the road when it comes to debt limits and budget reform. They will abet the democrat party to keep that scam going until there is nothing left but chaos and IOUs.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 10/20/2013 11:30:06 AM     (No. 9573785)

I´m a vocal member of the TEA Party, Taxed Enough Already. I´m also in favor of minimal restrictions on immigration and work permits, because it isn´t the business of government or my neighbors to decide whom I should hire.

Tea Party membership may overlap a lot with any other stand on any other issue, but I personally agree with the "business community."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 10/20/2013 12:19:14 PM     (No. 9573863)

The CofC is throwing in with the GOP on amnesty because of that little fact in the Obamacare bill. You know, the one where if amnesty is passed, the newly legals will not be eligible for Obamacare and so business will not have to pay for benefits for them.

If all this comes to pass, I look for an epic uptick in the unemployment rolls. Due to the fact that businesses will want to cut their costs of hiring citizens like you and me.

As the old saying goes, follow the money. Don´t forget, the AARP thought that Obamacare was swell too.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/20/2013 1:47:00 PM     (No. 9573957)

This is not news, as the Chamber of Commerce and some other Republican business oriented groups have always been supporters of so-called immigration reform (amnesty) and increased immigration across the board to flood the legal US job market with cheap foreign labor, which is bound to displace a huge number of American workers from their jobs and to hold the wages of American workers down as much as possible.

What the Republicans need to think about is that such a major immigration policy change will effectively hand the Democrats about an 85 percentile of those foreign workers and their family members as new Democrat voters in the years ahead, who will make it essentially an impossibility for any Republican to ever again be able to win national elections or for the Republican Party to ever be more then a distinct minority in the Congress. Historical evidence relating to prior amnesty programs and basic demographic arithmetic clearly show that to be a fact.

In addition the Democrats will ensure that the millions of American workers who have been displaced from jobs or whose wage expectations have been limited by the great imbalance of supply and demand in the legal US job market that such a massive infusion of cheap foreign labor is bound to cause will blame the Republicans.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Chief1942, 10/20/2013 11:18:00 PM     (No. 9574535)

Let the business bigwigs put their money in a black hole. The GOP is done! Stick a fork in it.

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Fox News, by Dana Blanton    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 7:39:27 PM     Post Reply
About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.” Click here for the poll results. President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep

Rev. Al Sharpton’s Easter message:
Politically ‘crucified’ Obama has risen again

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 4/16/2014 3:42:51 PM     Post Reply
With Easter soon approaching, the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday drew parallels between the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of President Obama’s political career. Joining the “Tom Joyner Morning Show,” Mr. Sharpton said that his message for this Easter is that “no matter what the world may do to you unfairly, no matter how you’re crucified — nailed to the cross at home, or in your personal relationships, or on the job — that you can rise if you don’t lose yourself during the hard times and the challenges.” The reverend went on to say that Christ endured so much humiliation and unearned suffering leading up to his death,

Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery
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Star-Telegram [Fort Worth TX], by Anna M. Tinsley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 4:02:34 PM     Post Reply
FORT WORTH — Democratic gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery today, her campaign said Tuesday. “After experiencing shoulder and right arm pain in recent weeks, Sen. Davis will have a routine surgical procedure to remove bone spurs and degenerative discs that are creating compression on the nerves in her neck,” campaign spokesman Zac Petkanas said in a statement Tuesday. “This is a common issue experienced by runners and endurance athletes,” he said. Davis, of Fort Worth, will undergo the outpatient surgery at the Fort Worth Brain and Spine Institute. Dr. Thomas Ellis will perform the

Obama administration gives Detroit
$100 million for ´blight removal´

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American Thinker, by Rick Moran    Original Article
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The cash infusion by the federal government is actually going to help the city pay pensions, even though they´re playing a kind of shell game with the money. As for "blight removal," perhaps they could start with city hall. Reuters: Michigan officials and President Barack Obama´s Administration are discussing a plan to free up $100 million in federal money to aid Detroit´s retired city workers, the Detroit Free Press reported on Tuesday. Citing two people familiar with the talks, the newspaper said the talks were centered around federal money flowing to Michigan for blight removal. Under the plan, $100 million

Michael Bloomberg: ´I Have Earned
My Place in Heaven´

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The Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Bill the Cat- 4/16/2014 9:15:28 AM     Post Reply
Former New York City mayor is pledging to spend $50 million this year to push gun control, the New York Times reports. For this and other deeds (such as taking on obesity and smoking), Bloomberg believes he´s going to heaven. “I am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven I’m not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. It’s not even close,” Bloomberg told the Times.

Climate change causing fish to
lose their minds, researchers say

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Climate change’s latest casualty appears to be fish — or more specifically, fish brains — as researchers say the carbon dioxide that’s being absorbed into the ocean is causing the scaly creatures to lose their survival instincts. In other words, the fish are losing their minds, The Daily Mail reported. The acid from atmospheric carbon dioxide seeps into sea waters, dissolves and ultimately lowers the pH balance, researchers said. The acidic waters then hamper the fishes’ sensory systems, so they’re not able to distinguish between smells any longer, the scientists went on. When the acid levels get really high, the fish lose their


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