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Obamacare, Failing Ahead
of Schedule

New York Times, by Ross Douthat

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Posted By:BuckeyeRon, 10/19/2013 9:26:30 PM

This is not the column about the Obamacare rollout I expected to write. If you had told me, months ago, that weeks after the health care law’s coverage expansion went into effect I would be writing about the problems its launch had exposed, I would have assumed I’d be writing about rate shock, rising premiums and the disappearance of many cheap insurance plans — basically, all the problems conservatives have worried will make Obamacare a ruinously expensive failure if they play out as we fear they might. I may be writing about those issues soon enough. But for now there

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/19/2013 9:37:01 PM     (No. 9573179)

It only took six paragraphs to get to Bush.
FTA:"Like the Bush administration in Iraq, the White House seems to have invaded the health insurance marketplace with woefully inadequate postinvasion planning, and let the occupation turn into a disaster of hack work and incompetence."

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jalo1951, 10/19/2013 9:41:07 PM     (No. 9573182)

#1 stole my thunder as I thought the exact same thing. This is obama´s & the dem´s baby. They can just live with.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: plex, 10/19/2013 9:42:57 PM     (No. 9573185)

Note also the false assumption that the right would base its solution on exchanges. Nicto. Free markets and high risk pools just like the auto insurance market.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/19/2013 10:05:12 PM     (No. 9573194)

Obamacare is a teachable moment for liberals and it will be fun to watch professor Cruz enlighten his students.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 10/19/2013 10:19:25 PM     (No. 9573207)

FTA: If the Web site doesn’t work soon, even liberals concede that the mandate would have to be delayed, because you can’t very well fine people for failing to buy a product they can’t access.

Yeah, but Obamacare is the Law of the Land. And the IRS has 16,000 newly-minted enforcement officers itching to fill their quota.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/19/2013 10:20:35 PM     (No. 9573209)

FTA; ´..even liberals concede that the mandate would have to be delayed, because you can’t very well fine people for failing to buy a product they can’t access. ´

Wanna bet? This is the Obama White House. Didn´t the EPA fine oil companies for failing to include a cellulosic biofuel when it didn´t even exist?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Videodrone, 10/19/2013 10:21:29 PM     (No. 9573210)

#6 Don´t forget the EPA is suing the DoD for not using a fuel that isn´t being made

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Peach1, 10/19/2013 10:26:50 PM     (No. 9573214)

Oh boy there´s going to be a lot of very happy lawyers out there!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: reillybinx, 10/19/2013 11:18:07 PM     (No. 9573239)

Thank goodness it´s failing ahead of time before all our hospitals close and all the doctors leave their practices. Obunglecare needs to fail to save the best healthcare system in the world.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: oh-heck, 10/19/2013 11:30:49 PM     (No. 9573245)

Just noticed the first of many false reports on the internet. To show how successful Obamacare is becoming, they are including the number of people who have signed up in states that have expanded Medicaid. In some cases these were people buying catastrophic insurance but have been told that they are eligible now for Medicaid. What is going to be critical to Obamacare is enrolling some 7 million healthy young people to help bear the cost of the 100,000 people who were uninsured with preexisting conditions.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 10/19/2013 11:55:54 PM     (No. 9573252)

According to this idiot Obamacare was supposed to run on unicorn farts and pink kitten dreams. He as much as admits that he knew that the whole system would have problems, especially with regard to higher and higher costs. I hope that when the time comes, the death panels will be staffed with people who can tell these idiots "I told you so." when they are denied the care that would prolong their feckless lives.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Howard Adams, 10/19/2013 11:57:12 PM     (No. 9573253)

I like Dr Benjamin Carson´s idea. When a baby is born, the child is given a birth certificate, a flashdrive for the health records, and a Health Savings Account.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 10/20/2013 12:39:57 AM     (No. 9573264)

The surest guarantee of Obamacare failure is the government running it. The level of fraud will dwarf anything ever seen with Medicare. But success of failure is never a consideration with any socialist scheme. It is sufficient for the scheme to exist. See how many leftists are bleating "law of the land". It is an instant sacred cow, third rail, untouchable.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: reilly, 10/20/2013 12:45:24 AM     (No. 9573265)


This could be the conservatives´ problem? This is socialism, like the stupid Soviet Union, which also collapsed.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: harper, 10/20/2013 12:48:11 AM     (No. 9573266)

I think we need to let a well regarded, professional newspaper of record with no political affiliation such as the NYT to investigate and report back as to the future of socialist healthcare in America and why it is all Bush´s fault.

Okay, now you tell one...

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Tulunk, 10/20/2013 12:53:00 AM     (No. 9573268)

I would like to see a "grade card" of federal government run programs. For example, we know the following are running deeply in the red: social security, Medicare Medicaid , postal service, education. It might be easier to name those that are efficient, if any.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/20/2013 2:05:11 AM     (No. 9573298)

Obamacare AKA Barry´s Signature Failure.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Mr smart, 10/20/2013 2:36:59 AM     (No. 9573314)

Obamacare is the Law of the Land?
How can that be when it was changed after the vote and before it even went into effect.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: sagman, 10/20/2013 7:37:35 AM     (No. 9573418)

Live from the Oval Office

The President of the United States, Barack Obama

Good evening, my fellow citizens.

Tonight we stand at a crossroads.

I am not surprised the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act crashed and burned so soon. The problem was, Speaker Boehner caved early, shifting attention to the fiasco. Stuff happens.

Our goal was that the PPACA would prove unworkable over time. Eventually, I would heed your pleas and impose a single payer system, similar to the one Canadians who’ve never tried to access their benefits are very happy with. But the situation has changed.

What happens now? We aren’t going back to the time when most Americans were satisfied with their health insurance and the uninsured had options. We must go forward.

However time-consuming and annoying it is, Americans must continue their attempts to access healthcare.gov. If you’re fortunate enough to get through, I expect you to create an account. Should that occur, you must choose a plan, any plan. It may be the wrong plan, but we can sort that out later.

I’ve instructed the IRS to exhibit no tolerance for people who ignore their civic duty in this matter. Joe Baqualini in Pittsburgh, you’re 28 and whatever plan you choose, your fees will be most useful in making the PPACA work, at least for a while. But the NSA tells me you tried several times to log on to healthcare.gov, then gave up. Unacceptable. Keep trying, Joe. Failure is not an option. Ann Woburn in Peoria, you haven’t made one attempt to access the site, though you appear to have plenty of time for Facebook. Get your head on straight, girl, or choices will be made for you.

As Ben Franklin said, and I paraphrase, we must all work together or I’ll see to it that you hang, separately.

Good night, and may God help America.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: My 2 Cents, 10/20/2013 7:58:10 AM     (No. 9573438)

First of all this New Yorker is giving the wrong comparison. We kicked butt when we invaded Iraq.

Now to the real comparison. When President Bush implemented Medicare Part D. They expected 20,000 hits a day, they planned for 150,000.

They got 40,000 hits the first day for the Medicare D plan.

As the article I read stated, that is the difference between competent and incompetent.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: pucky1, 10/20/2013 8:00:53 AM     (No. 9573440)

This coverage is just Soooo computer-centric.

What about the low info types without computers? How do they get it done?

Seniors, indigent, school dropouts, barely literate? Please don´t tell me they are signing up on their smart phones.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 10/20/2013 8:32:14 AM     (No. 9573484)

The comparison with Bush and the Iraq War is intellectually vacant. The launch of the Iraq War was a smashing success, rolling into Baghdad and toppling Saddam in just three weeks. It was the post-war mission creep that got Bush into trouble. The disastrous launch of Obamacare is more akin to Carter´s Operation Eagle Claw, crashing and burning in the desert before it ever got off the ground. And unlike the Iran Hostage Crisis, the Canadians aren´t helping us this time. They´re part of the problem.

But then we shouldn´t expect a limp-wristed leftoid journolister to get history right.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: southernboy, 10/20/2013 8:56:05 AM     (No. 9573510)

#21 “...
What about the low info types without computers? How do they get it done?

Seniors, indigent, school dropouts, barely literate? Please don´t tell me they are signing up on their smart phones.
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Any reports about how the site reacts to a dialup connection? That’s what a majority of Americans have as an internet connection….the ones just above the list of people who don’t have a computer at all. Just how many 60-70 year-old seniors are computer savvy?

I read yesterday that the site requires that your cache be emptied multiple times during your access in order for the site to work properly!

Hello!!! Anyone there!






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Reply 24 - Posted by: Laurie, 10/20/2013 9:11:59 AM     (No. 9573526)

On Friday a caller on Hannity´s program said we conservatives could take control of the narrative and win the argument if we start calling the ACA Obamatax instead of Obamacare. I think she´s right and I´m going my part to spread the word.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: baldguy, 10/20/2013 9:12:47 AM     (No. 9573528)

#4 and #12....right on! Can´t wait to see what Cruz and Lee do in the next few months. And Dr Carson is spot on too...we´re right, they´re wrong...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Laurie, 10/20/2013 9:13:57 AM     (No. 9573530)

Oops...doing. I´m doing my part to spread the word.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: jglas, 10/20/2013 9:18:41 AM     (No. 9573535)

His fear seems to be that if Obama´s healthcare scheme fails the Republicans won´t be able to replace it with anything better. Well probably not . . . because a centrally controlled exchange is a bad idea. Don´t replace it with anything. Let the market take care of it. Just let anybody sell any insurance anywhere and the competition will bring the prices down and provide more variety than government bureaucrats could dream up. Healthcare like anything else is best done in a free market. Most politicians and bureaucrats seem to think the world wouldn´t spin without them legislating and regulating it.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: papasparky, 10/20/2013 9:22:14 AM     (No. 9573539)

I am slowly loosing my eye sight to age related macular degeneration, but to prove the old adage about there being some good in every thing . . .

When I look at the article heading, I see the authors name as being "Ross Doubtthat". Good advice, I would say!


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Reply 29 - Posted by: Midnight Rambler, 10/20/2013 9:46:24 AM     (No. 9573571)

So the article says Obummercare stinks, but conservatives are going to lose no matter what. At least that´s the way I read it.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: kono, 10/20/2013 9:50:48 AM     (No. 9573579)

This is a creepy scene, with Conservatives laughing at Liberals with a we-told-you-so smirk. Imagine warning your son not to play with his gun or he´ll hurt someone ... him ignoring you ... the gun going off ... and you laughing hysterically at him while you gush blood from a gut shot ... "See, I told you so! Ha ha ha!"

What´s wrong with this picture. The toxic legislation may still wind up being a fatal wound on the American economy. And if we somehow survive the economic side, the societal changes still lurk like an inoperable cancer.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/20/2013 10:00:55 AM     (No. 9573598)

Some media show the national debt clock...where is the running graphic presentation showing how many families saved $2,500 a year as Zero promised or the percentage of those who did versus those who got increases...ditto for those who were "able to keep their current plans and doctors"...

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/20/2013 10:13:49 AM     (No. 9573615)

I too was wondering about all the ludites who don´t have computers. How do they sign up? The Dems make such a fuss about voter registration and their people not being able to find a ride to get that simple document, aren´t they concerned about those who can´t use the technology to sign up for Obamacare?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/20/2013 10:49:30 AM     (No. 9573665)

But will the IRS take note?

16.000 new agents. $1B in new funding. We´ve already seen corrupt, organized efforts.

Will the IRS take note no one can sign up?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Conradca, 10/20/2013 10:51:54 AM     (No. 9573671)

There are two alternatives the conservatives could propose. First is to change from health insurance that pays for almost everything to catastrophic health insurance that pays for medical expenses over 10-20% of your income. The second is to expand Medicaid to cover those unable to buy insurance because of preexisting conditions. I favor the latter because it would reduce medical spending because it would no longer be free to the consumer. Sorta like making people pay for their oil changes instead of insurance companies.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: steveW, 10/20/2013 10:52:14 AM     (No. 9573673)

Remember, you aren´t just buying Obamacare, which is merely unaffordable - you are buying Obama´s Care, which is priceless.

Knowing Dear Leader cares about you is worth any mind-bending failure in the world. Democrats will see to that.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: berlin, 10/20/2013 10:53:35 AM     (No. 9573675)

Thanks to Chief Justice Roberts the country now has to deal with a fiasco.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: bluebonnet, 10/20/2013 10:59:40 AM     (No. 9573693)

Once again, sagman just makes my day!

The hit on President Bush is totally inappropriate, like comparing apples to oranges.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/20/2013 11:00:26 AM     (No. 9573694)

Those that do not have computers sign up with "Navigators" earning over $40 an hour who are community agitators from Acorn who will sign them up for Medicare.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: stevendm, 10/20/2013 11:04:22 AM     (No. 9573700)

Ah, I see another free giveaway on the horizon. We will have to give the lo-fo voters laptops and broadband Internet connectivity so that they can sign up for Obamacare.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/20/2013 11:09:45 AM     (No. 9573713)



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Reply 41 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/20/2013 11:13:45 AM     (No. 9573725)

Sorry for the double post. Chief Justice Roberts sold us. He wanted to protect his illegally adopted children and voted for Obamacare. Google Justice John Roberts and adopted children.

Obamacare should have been unconstitutional.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: steph_gray, 10/20/2013 11:14:03 AM     (No. 9573729)

#30 seems to be almost as good at bogus analogy as the article author.

Ross, is that you?

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/20/2013 11:23:29 AM     (No. 9573764)

I still haven´t seen or heard a single dims explain just how great Obozocare is going to be AFTER a large number of hospitals close down and doctors retire because of payments that won´t cover costs. And it´s already happening on a fairly small scale. But, once fully implemented, that rate will increase by leaps and bounds. And that doesn´t even include the numbers that will no longer accept Medicare or Medicaide. The entire system is planned for compete collapse so the dims can rush in and implement a single payer plan vis-à-vis the federal government. And that´s been the plan all along. I wouldn´t be surprised if they already have a plan written and are just waiting for the right time to bring it forward.
And Republicans need to be on every news outlet that can extolling the virtues of the free market as applied to the medical profession. But, they never do, for any subject.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: maryc, 10/20/2013 12:14:59 PM     (No. 9573860)

Some diseases can only be diagnosed with an autopsy. I´m afraid this disease called Obamacare will be the cause of death for our economy and our freedom and likely our republic. But the diagnosis won´t come until after the death. But I believe that has been the plan all along. It was a good country until the left took it

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/20/2013 1:17:41 PM     (No. 9573922)

What kind of man forces people to buy something they do not want or need. To add insult to injury, you will be fined for non-compliance. At the same time, he will be exempt from buying the same product he has forced on you. You have now become a slave to the government. You have no choice and no right of refusal. You no longer are a free person. Let that sink in. The government owns you.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Quigley, 10/20/2013 1:47:04 PM     (No. 9573958)

Ross admits to being laughably gullible early in the article.

He thought the mandate plus some incentives would be enough for the teaming masses?

Hahahaha.

But this newspaper is pure propaganda. And Ross might believe he can think but he only spouts the party line.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 10/20/2013 3:53:45 PM     (No. 9574117)

Why would any opponent of Obamacare want to delay the pain for one year and let the dems get past the mid term elections?
The whole country needs to be made as he!! on election day and kick out every congressman who voted for this mess.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/20/2013 4:39:49 PM     (No. 9574169)

#21, there´s probably a clause buried somewhere in Obamacare´s thousands of pages giving the lo-fos, the indigent, and the moochers free computers. How can you expect them to access Obamacare without one?

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Reply 49 - Posted by: fairplay, 10/20/2013 5:29:19 PM     (No. 9574214)

What´s the National debt going to be when Obama´s term is done?

25 TRILLION ???

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Reply 50 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/20/2013 5:50:07 PM     (No. 9574229)

Sorry #41, but I wouldn´t imagine it was quite that, not with this scorched earth crowd.

They would simply have informed Justice Roberts that the Senate pussy-pants-lapdogs of this scum would have removed him to be replaced by a choice of Obama´s-for life.

My vote? We got the government that we deserve. People accusing conservatives of being "whimpy" sometimes don´t do anything much themselves...

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Shucky, 10/20/2013 6:04:53 PM     (No. 9574241)

Not that I would ever know from personal experience, but I´ve heard the reports how much effort it takes to sign up. The leftists and leeches who wanted it are not known for putting much effort into anything, and the rest of us who are industrious would sooner make an equal effort to eliminate it. They had their chance, and they lost.

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Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 12/6/2013 8:03:38 AM     Post Reply
FW de Klerk, the South African president under whom Nelson Mandela was released from prison, has said his country and the world have lost "a great unifier". De Klerk shared the Nobel peace prize with Mandela in 1993 for brokering the end of apartheid and, when the ANC leader was elected president in the first multiracial election, entered into a government of national unity as his deputy. De Klerk, 77, said in remarks to the BBC: "It´s a very sad moment for the whole of South Africa and I´m sure millions of people around the world. "I fully associate myself

How Nelson Mandela transcended
race barriers to become a symbol
of resistance and exemplar of
human generosity of spirit
Daily Mail [UK], by Max Hastings    Original Article
Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 12/5/2013 5:44:28 PM     Post Reply
Nelson Mandela was the most famous black man in history. He transcended race barriers to become an exemplar of human generosity of spirit. His towering personality made possible the peaceful transfer of power in South Africa from white minority to black majority rule. If he was less effective as president of his country than he had been as the symbol of resistance to apartheid, he demonstrated statesmanship unmatched in Africa. He inspired love as much as respect, and became regarded by hundreds of millions of people as a secular saint. More was asked of him, and sometimes claimed for him,

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and anti-apartheid leader, dies at 95
Yahoo News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 12/5/2013 4:53:42 PM     Post Reply
Former South African President Nelson Mandela has died at age 95 of complications from a recurring lung infection. The anti-apartheid leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate was a beloved figure around the world, a symbol of reconciliation from a country with a brutal history of racism. Mandela was released from prison in 1990 after nearly 30 years for plotting to overthrow South Africa´s apartheid government. In 1994, in a historic election, he became the nation´s first black leader. Mandela stepped down in 1999 after a single term and retired from political and public life.

Shooting Victim Identified
as Alzheimer´s Patient
WTVC-TV [Chattanooga, TN], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 11/28/2013 1:29:32 PM     Post Reply
The victim in an early morning shooting in Walker County has been identified as Ronald Westbrook, a 72-year-old Alzheimer´s patient. Westbrook was shot outside the home of Joe Hendricks on Cottage Crest Court about 4 am. Westbrook lived about two-and-a-half miles from where he was shot and had apparently wandered away from home. Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said Hendricks has not been charged. However he said the investigation continues and did not rule out the possibility of charges in the future. The sheriff said Hendricks heard a suspicious sound outside the house and called 911.



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