Here’s a question for conservatives and Republicans: Going into the 2012 Election Day, or even in the last few days before Election Day, did you think Mitt Romney was going to win? A couple of months ago, did you think the strategy of threatening to shut down the government or prevent raising the debt ceiling, to force the outright repeal or defunding of Obamacare, would really work? Romney lost by 4,967,508 votes, 126 Electoral College votes, and 3.85 percentage points. That’s not very close. Obamacare isn’t going to be repealed this year, and it’s not going to be defunded. So the
I dunno, that´s a pretty harsh assessment. Yes, I thought/hoped/wished/prayed for a Romney victory. Yes, I thought the defund tactic was going to be a disaster. Yes, I absolutely disdained Bill Clinton, but "hatred" is too strong. Mr. Cook´s analysis goes a bit astray when he dumps all of us into the same pot and thinks he´s cooking up something brilliant.
Parts of article are over the top, but parts are spot on. It was clear that the defund strategy had very little chance of success. Any good chess player has thought through several moves ahead, so if the opponent goes one way you have a plan and if he goes a different way, you have a plan. Cruz did not show any evidence of having a back-up plan.
A better solution, in my book, was always to point out the clear problems and suggest options to get around the problems. Not "defund" - there were some small bits in Obamacare (such as keeping young adults on parents´ plans to age 26) that were already in place, popular, and not costly. Any IT-knowledgeable person anticipated a website failure. Had the Republicans said upfront that this needed more development time and offered a bill for an extension...then THAT been turned down and the failure happened, Reps wouldn´t have so much egg on their faces now.
Aha - so Charlie didn´t deny or even address that Obama is/could be a lizard-alien.
His analogy about a kid throwing a vase against a wall is misleading. What he left out was his mother was physically and sexually abusing the child and the child threw the closest object at hand to catch the attention of an unaware passerby.
Here is a dose of reality, Charlie. I am a free man and I will fight tyranny at every juncture. Win or lose. Take your polls and then read your Bible and get a grip on the reality that with God, all things are possible.
Right down to the bitter end I asked for Romney to step aside and let a better candidate win.
Although there´s this crowd who thinks that you go out and attract voters, the better approach is to get your people registered and get them to the polls to vote for candidates they like.
Then, run candidates who give pause to the other side´s supporters ~ that is, run somebody who will discourage the other side from organizing and getting out their own vote.
Romney did little about getting out Republican voters ~ he spent virtually all of his campaign raising money from a handful of Republican donors ~ although we might well ask why Romney was inviting key Democrat donors to those meetings.
At the same time, to some degree, he was able to convince about 3 million of Obama´s 2008 voters to stay home. That still left him 6 million votes behind even with 100% of Republicans voting!
Still, worse, Romeny discouraged another 4 million newly registered Democrats from voting at all!
Those were the newly registered Democrats to make up for the death of 1 million Democrats from 2008 to 2012. Yes, Democrats do eventually die.
So Romney had a net gain of getting 7 million Democrats to NOT SHOW UP. He still got all the Republicans.
And yet, he wasn´t a good candidate for us. If he had been he´d been pushing voter registration back in 2011 and early 2012 ~ we needed another 5.3 million voters on our side. We had at least 3 Conservatives who could have done that ~ gotten enough new Republicans to vote and to discourage Democrats.
#10 raises some interesting and provocative points. 1. ´Yes, Democrats do eventually die.´ Smile. Unfortunately the present demographic of the GOP, older and white, suggests that Republicans die faster. 2. Conservatives (I assume he/she means Gingrich and Santorum since they were the last standing) would have done better than Romney. As someone who enjoys a wager now and then, I find it amusing when someone predicts something that can never be tested,e.g. Secretariat would have beat Man O´ War.
From a nearby article: The United States is a giant bus that is rushing toward an economic precipice. A few more years of Mr. Obama’s borrow-and-spend policies and America will crash upon the rocks of fiscal reality and national insolvency. The Democrats are keeping their foot on the gas pedal, full speed ahead. The Republican establishment thinks we may need to slow down — at least a little. The bus, however, will still go off the cliff. Only the Tea Party is saying — in fact, yelling — to hit the brakes. They’re right, and they will be vindicated. The only question is this: Will Americans wake up before it’s too late?
That is a really nice analogy that perfectly captures the situation we are in, a situation of which I think most people are obliviously unaware. You Charlie appear to be a passenger on that bus complaining that the passengers who are disturbed by the careening bus ride aren´t playing the license plate game properly or they´re missing their round of "Row Row Row Your Boat" or are singing off key. You are oblivious to the blinding speed with which the bus is approaching the cliff. We need all the Ted Cruz´s we can find to scream STOP! Somebody has to get the driver´s attention or push him out of the driver´s seat. We really don´t need people to tell those who are shouting the warning to shut up, sit down and get a grip on reality. You are the one who doesn´t see the reality.
Mr. Cook is right about self-delusion. I think that too often we of a more conservative bent choose to dwell in an echo chamber. I knew that I hoped Romney would win, and we all looked for signs that we were right. I thought he would win until the week before the election, when the Real Clear Politics poll averages in the swing states were fairly clear. I still hoped, but I didn´t expect a Romney win (something the nation should still rue.)
An issue going forward with which we must grapple, is that we can win the states where population is relatively low, and the democrat party, by virtue of the fact it wins big in densely populated areas (whether by hook or by crook is a discussion for another day) will continue to remain competitive and, more often than not I´m afraid, victorious.
Of course the national debt is the iceberg some of us see, and once the ship of state unequivocally encounters that behemoth, hearts and minds will be open to our ideas. (Nautical reference an homage to Bill Ayers.)
* Prohibition was once the law of the land * Prohibition was ratified as 18th Amendment to the Constitution in 1919 * Prohibition was a disaster * Prohibition was repealed by 21st Amendment to the Constitution in 1933
Even at the Constitutional level, disastrous laws can and have been repealed. Conservatives are positioned to repeat history - when the time comes.
The future of over 240 years achievements of the Judeo/Christian work ethic was tottering on the brink. Out of 155 million white voters only 90 million showed up and 57 million voted for the Republican nominee. This is political bankruptcy on steroids. RINO infested and controlled Republican Party is no match for the Left.
Ho hum, another bash the Conservatives article. You Moderates really have nothing to worry about. You and the Left are still in control and own what is happening to America. Once you completely ruin this Country, we will still be around trying to fix your mess. You keep saying the GOP must pick it´s fights. Too bad you decided to fight us and not them.
People who use scare tactics and names, who claim to have a handle on a situation reveal more about themselves than what they attack.
Three years are ahead of us. Young people are just beginning to know what is expected of them to make this Obama care function. We are in the me, myself, and I generation. How well do you think paying out insurance in the amounts required is going to play with these folks? The Dems are very worried.
You know, Cook had me thinking seriously about the politics of the GOP right up until he printed this:
And don’t get me started on the “birthers.” It’s one thing to dislike or disapprove of Obama, but to get obsessed over birth certificates—really?
At this point, Mr. Cook showed that his grasp of the importance of the rule of law established by the United States Constitution is extremely weak. Constitutional requirements are not requests or suggestions. There was plenty of evidence, or lack thereof, to support questioning of the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama. Only intellectually lazy people poo poo the requirements. And if they do not like them, then change them by amending the Constitution. But do not diminish their concerns by the Alinsky system of destruction.
[[[Obviously, not every Republican or conservative thought, up until the end, that Romney would win or that the anti-Obamacare strategies would work. But this increasingly widespread tone deafness should concern party leaders, particularly when it leads to self-destructive decisions, as we are witnessing these days. In politics, it isn’t uncommon to see judgment clouded by emotion, but when hate and contempt predominate, truly awful decisions often result.]]]
Worth repeating and really thinking about. If we can´t tell ourselves the truth - we aren´t fit to lead, imo. Ted Cruz is the head of the adolescent wing of the GOP - ´freedom without responsibility´. I want to do whatever "I" want to do no matter who it harms. Shutting down the government was harmful and stupid...adolescent.
Ted Cruz is fighting for the American people, not the DC establishment. Erroneously thinking he is juvenile is denying reality. He is a seasoned veteran of the Supreme Court wars, and he is doing EXACTLY what Texans want him to do.
And thinking the defeat of obamacare is a chess game is totally absurd. obamacare is the worst government takeover of private industry in the lifetime of our Nation. It is NOT a chess "game"; it is a full-on fight against an abusive government.
#24, even a "full-on fight" requires planning and strategy with a goal of victory. Much as in a chess game. The leaders of the defund fight now tell their followers that they knew it would not succeed. So, nothing was accomplished except publicity for those leaders. The rest of us lost out because of the focus being taken off of the Obamacare rollout.
Thank you #7!! And it is really sad how many people here today still don´t understand what Ted Cruz was/is trying to do. They just want to hold on to the same failed moderate policies that have gotten us where we are today.
Mr. Cook needs to sit in the corner and just be quiet. His grasp on reality and the Constitution is the one that is loose, not Conservatives.
The party in power is on a roll...no doubt about it. They offer ´a chicken in every pot´ and a lot of people go for the fowl and feathers so for now they are happy...reality will take a little longer... But remember the old saying ´you can fool some of the people some of the time...etc´, that too will come to pass just like Prohibition, Slavery, the funding for the Vietnam War...the appeal dims and they are gone. Truth is this very, very bad idea will also fall into place just like Obama´s place in history for the lack of truth in his entire administration. Sad but this too will pass.
Funny. All the folks who say Ted Cruz is the "adolescent wing" (how ... civil) of the party and those who hatefully obsess over every article written about Sarah Palin are the same ones who push candidates that don´t win. All they ever seem to push for is giving dems what they want and stabbing those who fight in the back. The media can always find a "moderate Republican" to bash the person fighting.
"Here, let me throw salt in his eyes for you!"
We lose ground every time someone tries to fight because the dems know they can always count on a percentage of the Republican party to stab the fighter in the back. Because plan B ... which wouldn´t be necessary if the GOP had the fighter´s back. Obama would have caved had McCain and King (and the wonderful folks in places like Power Line) not scr3w3d the pooch for their own benefit.
Don´t expect the support of conservatives in the future. Good luck to ya.
#12 ~ the way this work is the Baby Boomers are entering those years where their average death rate skyrockets.
Given the fairly even division of society into Republicans and Democrats, with an unregistered hinterland of people who don´t care to participate, we have about 1 million Republican baby boomers die per year, and about 1 million Democrats, and probably 1.5 million non registered die per year. (90 million adults are not voters)
The Democrats saw this coming a bit earlier than the Republicans.
As you recall we got to 64 million voters in 2004, and the Democrats barely made 66 million voters 8 years later in 2012!
Two major voter registration drives bring those numbers so close together ~
(1) The ACORN campaign. They got at least 13 million new voters over 4 years ~ truly commendable, and also a number that explains why we see ´scandal´ ~ when you do that much you do tend to pile up some cr*p and that always comes out.
(2) The TEAParty phenomenon. They got at least 5 million new voters in one year ~ again truly commendable. That´s one of the reasons TEAParty partisans think they´ve taken over Republican politics (or that they should) and why people who´ve been Republican all along (55 million of them) don´t always agree.
It´s all about the voters. You have to line them up first long before the nominations. You must make sure to have candidates available that your voters will vote for.
The Democrats have been failing in the legislatures and the House because their state candidates are idiots. We´ve failed for the Senate and the Presidency because our national candidates are equally idiots.
#12 almost forgot the ´conclusion´. The GOP got 64 mil in 2004, but the TEA Party had nothing to do with that. They weren´t around AS the TEA Party at that time. However, their voter drive in 2010 kept us in the range of 60 voters. We need more obviously.
However, the Democrats DROPPED in 2012 ~ 3 million didn´t show up. I think that´s more a consequence of ceasing voter registration drives than lack of interest. The Dems continue to die and they have to be replaced.
The point I´m trying to make is that you can´t sit there and wait on voters to show up, or imagine you can send out a darling candidate and he or she will attract new voters.
YOU HAVE TO GO GET THE VOTERS first ~ with voter registration drives. Then you give them candidates they like. If they´re attractive people so much the better, but Tricky Dick definitely won races where he was far from attractive! He played to his Republican base though ~ and won! Bill Clinton played to his base as well.
#34: if the Republicans would have backed Cruz the dems would have blinked. We might not have gotten rid of Obamacare, but we would have gotten something. And if the Dems wouldn´t have blinked then what? Why don´t we find out? Can´t! The GOP is too scared of the fight. Thank goodness they weren´t around for the Revolution (although with McCain that´s debatable).
- A megadose of media manipulation all in favor of Obama. The MSM is full of liberal bias.
- The Dem party is more organized. Plenty of dirty tricks too.
- The Republicans were disorganized. Did anyone bother to register new voters for 2012? I saw some Republican fundraisers sit on their hands during 2012. Did some Republican fundraisers prefer Obama over Romney because it would give the Conservatives less power? The Republicans came out flat in 2012. I doubt many Conservatives stayed home because they could not stand Obama. I saw more moderate Republicans switching to Obama because they like big government. Great opportunity for the Tea Party and other conservative groups to fill the void left by Republicans.
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